Haflinger

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1345059751' post='3022201'] Its kind of hilarious given that within a year and a half, everyone else was attacking NPO. They just had more loyal members than Illuminati who wouldn't leak screenshots. His weakness was trusting too much and not waiting long enough from what I can tell (besides the handling of the Dawny situation, which wouldn't have led to war without the screenshot leaks). That being said, he isn't a competent leader. [/quote] The Dawny/Moo/KoS situation would have led to war without the screenshots. It would have taken longer, but we were working actively towards war at the time; as soon as NPO dropped Illuminati we were going in, and it would have been the same CDT-Superfriends coalition blowing them up. Remember, Illuminati was threatening nations hitting a rogue at war with NPO's Emperor. This is not a good idea when NPO is the only reason you're still alive. Terry Howard is the single worst alliance leader I have ever met. Invicta's no longer at war with the Illuminati, we didn't re-engage them for violating surrender terms; I believe only Ragnarok did that. So check with Ragnarok to make sure they're OK, but I can't imagine they would still care about it. But don't put Terry in a position of leadership. He's really, really bad. That's not a threat, it's just ... good advice.

Knowing the words to our national anthem is un-Canadian, a proof that you are in fact an immigrant.

[quote name='Emperor Whimsical' timestamp='1320610875' post='2840468'] Since GWI, right? I applaud you legion, as well as polar. [/quote] Legion was on the victorious sides in the Unjust War and the War of the Coalition. Good luck to our allies going forward.

[quote name='porksaber' timestamp='1318982648' post='2828280'] I feel a little slighted here. [/quote] I've always considered you to be an amusing person. So, work harder at being a twit I guess?

Prove him wrong then. Given a choice between proving wickedj wrong and ignoring our allies, I know which choice I would make every time. Put another way: $%&@ off and die. If you want to see our balls, come over here. (As a note - we've actually never had Legion fight a war in defense of us. We once fought a war in defense of Legion.)

[quote name='Katy Perry' timestamp='1318969325' post='2828101'] If you're talking about arexes, he is not in government. Just so you know. [/quote] Arexes is always in government; I remember when this claim was made by iFOK. It must have been two months later at most that he was a triumvir.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1318367768' post='2823046'] So if I joined a private channel of an alliance that I had recently left and logged it, it wouldn't be spying? [/quote] No, Cheeky did that and he's a MoFA of a respected alliance, so it's OK.

[quote name='Katy Perry' timestamp='1318964846' post='2828053'] The real question on my mind is why would anyone have a grievance with Non Grata? [/quote] You have a government member who has never in his entire life spoken the truth about anything to anyone.

[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1318947196' post='2827918'] Believe it or not, I'm pretty indifferent towards Invicta after we rolled you. Most of my grievances with Invicta stem from Haflinger's posting. [/quote] That's okay, all of my grievances with your alliance stem from you being a huge sack of !@#$.

[quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1318898147' post='2827456'] Hey theres a chance you can still collect this. if Invicta nuts up, which we all know they wont [/quote] Bern's in Europa now.

When in the past was this?Very few of the major wars started since I joined have had a CB. Karma had a really dumb CB.UJW actually did have a proper CB, raiding of an MDP partner.If you think Bipolar had a CB, you're in a dreamland though.What? Karma was one of the most clear-CBs I've ever seen. Not the specific issue regarding TORN and OV, but rather the events of the past few months/years leading up to the war were more than enough justification for the curbstomp and subsequent isolation of Pacifica and their close allies. Err, Pacifica declared war in Karma. Not you guys

When in the past was this? Very few of the major wars started since I joined have had a CB. Karma had a really dumb CB. UJW actually did have a proper CB, raiding of an MDP partner. If you think Bipolar had a CB, you're in a dreamland though.

Are you still obsessed with us wickedj? Grow up.

[quote name='Buzz Lightyear' timestamp='1318882813' post='2827300'] your point? [/quote] You quoted my point and then asked me what my point was. Do you do this often?

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1318880170' post='2827278'] That's the thing though, NG [i]did[/i] roll in with a CB. Their justification for war is outlined in the OP. But lets pretend that they stated simply that they were marching to war because they don't like SOS - not that there are a series of grievances as outlined in the OP - that too would constitute a CB (it being the attacking party's justification for war, even if it's not one that's shared by CN's general populace). What's open to interpretation and ultimately to debate is how strong their CB is. [/quote] The CB can be summarized as "ancient iFOK internal drama" more or less.

[quote name='Leet Guy' timestamp='1318301841' post='2822649'] Why are people still making such generic alliances [/quote] Any alliance led by Suryanto Tan isn't generic. Good luck. Menotah are good people.

I wish there was some secret way to get Baka's signature on this document. Still, good luck, hopefully this time works out a bit better than the last time.

[quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1318871428' post='2827220'] We both know there is a little more too it than that. [/quote] When did you become an expert on Polar's relations with its allies?

Welcome to Invicta.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1318820933' post='2826749'] So what's the reason RIA and Invicta downgraded on SOS bridage? [/quote] Can't speak for RIA; go read the NukeKastel thread to figure out the reason for us. [quote name='Natan' timestamp='1318821791' post='2826766'] It was just 11:11 PM. I wished for the disbandment of the Non Grata Alliance. This is a disgusting decliration and you know it. You are picking on those unpopular on the OWF because they are nothing but different simply because they are now defenseless. You are nothing more than a school yard bully projecting your insecurities in an online game, and for what reason? To seem powerful? To seem brave? To look all war hungry and cool so that the cool guys will finally notice you and hang out with you? No one is impressed by hitting someone while they're down, but at least we can finally see NG for what they are, the coward bully that they are. Why didn't you do this while SOS still had MD+ treaties? Too afraid? Pathetic. I can only pray the CN community can show its strength and not tolerate this kind of stupid crap. We owe it to active members of the game who make the place more interesting and we owe it to the integrity of the game. I beg of you all that read this, take a stand. This is not a precedent we can set, then no one is safe. [/quote] The irony of this statement being made by a member of a Doomhouse alliance is extreme. Go on, persuade your alliance to defend SOS, that'd turn everything upside down. [quote name='Lord Valleo' timestamp='1318825542' post='2826889'] Say it isnt so, I mean really when Invicta had a choice they picked SOS over a long standing treaty partner [/quote] That's not what happened. And you should know better. [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1318826582' post='2826912'] Why did Invicta and RIA bow to outside pressure to drop a longtime ally? [/quote] lolwut, which longtime ally did we drop recently? [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1318832184' post='2826974'] You, as well as the iFOK and SLCB components of NG, ought to know my stance on your grudge and the work I've done to calm both sides. [/quote] Trying to persuade Arexes to not be bullheaded is a fool's mission. [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1318836090' post='2827014'] I cannot remember it. You sure you are talking about the same kriekfreak here? Me being the voice of reason sounds nothing like myself. If you can link me to it, I'd be a happy man. [/quote] Nice to see honesty for once. [quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1318836617' post='2827021'] I wasn't even aware that Arrnea was back into power.... If someone knows what went down with Bern now being in Invicta and Arrnea back at the healm of SOS... feel free to fill me in. [/quote] I'm not going to fill you in, but Bern's no longer in Invicta. He's in Europa now, a longtime ally of ours which we haven't cancelled on. [quote name='ShouAS' timestamp='1318841973' post='2827044'] Wait why are you butthurt? You are not and were not in SOS at the time of the event I mentioned. Or are you saying that you caused the Invicta downgrade, which is why you had to leave SOS? [/quote] Locke didn't cause the SOS-Invicta downgrade. He was the main original reason why the treaty existed in the first place. However he doesn't really know why we downgraded either, as he's not in either alliance anymore. Also he wasn't in either of our alliances when the upgrade happened. Also, nice timing there pork.

[quote name='potato' timestamp='1318548911' post='2824305'] No, it's because I don't feel the need to explain to someone who is going to put his fingers in his ears and shout "LALALALA I KNOW BETTER". Was the ODN perfect in that troubled time for Legion? No. But that's not what I said. Did the ODN abandon the Legion then like you're saying? Not one bit. I was there and involved. You weren't. [/quote] I was there and involved as well. Who do you think was working to get people released so they could leave the Legion AA without being targeted? There were a lot of us, and I was one of them. And I wasn't even allied to Legion at the time - unless you count GRAPE. Diomede helped at ODN. Nobody else was in the trenches working, although several - like Korlus - went to ODN anyway. Pezstar issued the disbandment order because it was clear that Swampy had fallen into a trap whose effect was going to be that Legion was going to lose her independence and become a vassal state of Valhalla, to an even greater degree than it had been before UJW, and nobody was going to ride to Legion's defense. The fact that Legion was able to recover from that fall is largely thanks to the efforts of Hymenbreach and his cohort, who took over a largely untenable position and signed egregious surrender terms, then worked to pull Legion out of the hole. Without any help from Orrple. Meanwhile ODN's foreign affairs priority was bettering relations with the member alliances of One Vision, none of which were exactly huge fans of Legion.

One slot per nation isn't hard, yeah. Also I'm not criticizing you for being evil. The criticism is more along the lines of "Man that sounds like a headache to administer, why would you bother?"

[quote name='Nedved III' timestamp='1318655458' post='2825465'] Wait...what.... [/quote] Master of Puppets is indeed a good song. I think it's best to not try to draw any other inferences from that post though.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1318552018' post='2824321'] I block everyone, Attention > ignored, and I did the typo intentionally, since I've seen you complain about it before. [/quote] Ah okay, if it's on purpose then I forgive you because that makes it funny.

[quote name='Heft' timestamp='1318564769' post='2824572'] I would openly invite all of Legion's current allies to consider the ~12 aid packages Ragnarok has sent us as assistance equivalent to military assistance. [/quote] Cherrypicking facts is below you, Heft. [url="http://www.cybernations.net/search_aid.asp?searchstring=Declaring_Alliance%2CReceiving_Alliance&search=Ragnarok+New+Sith+Order"]RoK-NSO: 15 slots[/url] [url="http://www.cybernations.net/search_aid.asp?searchstring=Declaring_Alliance%2CReceiving_Alliance&search=Global+Treaty+Imperial+Assault+Alliance"]GATO-IAA: 53 slots[/url] [url="http://www.cybernations.net/search_aid.asp?searchstring=Declaring_Alliance%2CReceiving_Alliance&search=Last+Remnants+Imperial+Assault+Alliance"]TLR-IAA: 17 slots[/url]