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  12. AFK 47

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    If this debate has taught me one thing, it's that partisan politics is the real enemy. The sooner Obama can see this, the easier it will be for congress to get back to work.

    I think I've made my point, but just wanted to stop by for a 'lol' at this comment. Because if there was one thing Obama has been 'raging' against (in an extremely passive, moderate way) it's the partisan strife getting in the way of making America better.

  13. AFK 47

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    I really see no point in continuing this discussion. You obviously drink the kool aide enough to realize that no matter what I say, it's not going to change your mind. The facts are available to the American people, and it's unfortunate that reasonable democrats are consistently being co-opted by radical marxists and fabian socialists, hellbent on destroying this great nation.

    You could at least stick to your memes, I don't support Obama enough to be kool-aide drinker, I have plenty of legitimate criticisms of him.

    It is not the "radical marxists" :rolleyes: who are destroying this great nation, it's the corporate interests and the epidemic of greed which you can trace the vast majority of the of the problems in this country to. The invisible hand of the free market is choking the middle and lower classes, and republicans are not going to do anything to stop it. Far from a living wage the minimum wage now stands merely as a concession from a bygone era for capitalists to point to as an example of the lower classes getting their fair share. In reality the minimum wage is by no means a living wage, the lower class has to work more and more jobs just to make ends meet. Things are only going to get worse for the middle and lower classes who will probably never realize they have no real power, and that the corporate interests took over a long time ago, and will only become more entrenched with the Citizens United decision, as they use their nigh unlimited funds to sway America away from unprofitable policies and politicians. But fine, buy into the sound bites, you're certainly not alone in that.

  14. AFK 47

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    Well, all the controversial stuff won't happen. However, the more apolitical legislation, and stuff that isn't has controversial will be able to go though. Don't expect any movement on abortion, but you may get important non-flashy stuff done like tweaking a bad regulation, simplifying a tax code, fixing a problem with VA hospitals, etc etc.

    No, there is no unity to be had, period. For christsakes, the 9/11 early responders healthcare bill failed.

  15. AFK 47

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    I am deadly serious. With the threat of the filibuster, that means that democrats will either have to moderate, or face the fact that they will be unable to push their agenda through. If you look at history, this country has usually had a divided government and that minus a few hiccups, that's generally how we operate. Divided government doesn't cause stalemate. It forces both parties to come to the center and work together. We saw with Bush, and now with Obama, that when either party retains full control over both chambers and the white house, bad things happen.

    That's be a good argument if not for the fact that the republicans have ran on a platform of no compromise, and they are not interested in governing. They are interested in politics, and nothing more. You won't see anything of value that does not favor corporations or the wealthy coming out of congress, (if you see anything at all). The senate has never been a bastion of liberalism anyway, so your worries about the senate democrats needing to be dragged right are unfounded. It's the republicans who are the obstacle to bipartisanship, always have been.

  16. AFK 47

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    He's been co-opted by the marxists around him. I truly do not believe he is a radical, however it is no secret that his administration is filled with mostly radicals similar to Van Jones in scope. The president does nothing alone, and the democratic legislative branch and the white house have moved this country to the left in a significant shift within the last 21 months. I would argue that Nixon wasn't as left as Obama and that's a rationalization of the trillions of dollars that have been spent with TARP/Stimulus and Obamacare spending. Unfortunately, I think most Americans don't understand the truth about Barrack Obama and the louder voices are the nut jobs that think the Tea Party are racists and fascists.

    You do realize that the bank bailouts was bush's gig? Obama can be blamed for continuing it, and doing it with no strings attached, but the bailouts certainly was not a socialist thing, there were a protectionist thing. "Obamacare" or as it more accurately can be called "Rommneycare", is just that, another republican policy. Obama has not been pushing the country left, the country has been on a downward slope to the right for a long time now, and it's only getting more pronounced, as a moderate like him is being lambasted by the likes of fox news and co.

    Also, I dislike how you can conservative ideology into misnomers and fallacious one liners. "Tax Cutting into prosperity" is an inappropriate representation of the conservative platform. It would be best served with "not spending money faster than we can print it"....

    Both are merely pithy slogans, true conservatism is nether of those things. True conservatives would take a hard look and point to specific places where funding can be cut, where more income can be raised. The republican party isn't conservative in the past, and the new one isn't any more conservative. On election day republicans spoke of vague across the board cuts (except the sacred cow of military spending, of course), they spoke of eliminating discretionary spending (which is an utterly tiny part of the federal budget, relatively speaking). They have no solid ideas, just more slogans. The budget needs to be balanced, yes, but it won't be the republicans who do it. Taxes have to be put back to reasonable levels, and military spending must be reigned in.

    EDIT: I also like how you attributed our men and women in uniform to a danger to their own countrymen. Do elaborate on that theory. I'm interested to see how the armed forces of the country are worse than over 3,000 deaths at the hands of muslim extremists.

    You dare twist my words to suggest that our soldiers are a threat to us? Such a profound lack of class is unbecoming of one who attempts to preach from the high ground. I said no such thing, what I said was that military spending is out of control. There is no possible way that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars have been worth it. 9/11 was a tragedy, there is no denying it, but far more dire are the long term consequences for not only our budget deficit, the scores of dead Iraqi civilians, the lives of our troops shattered, and our loss of standing in the world. The wars did us no good, period.

  17. AFK 47

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    Actually, if anything, this election has shown a return to normalcy in American politics. Traditionally, America works best under a divided government.

    You can't possibly be serious, nothing is going to get done because of the filibuster. We are going to have nothing but deadlock, until the house tries to shut down government (which they have talked about doing), at which point things will get even worse for everyone. The filibuster has destroyed the ability of the senate to compromise. There will be no meaningful legislation, things will stagnate.

  18. AFK 47

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    The alleged character of those around him does nothing to detract from the fact that his policies have been more right wing than, say, Nixon. He is an idealistic moderate, not an avowed socialist or Marxist.

    The modern republican party is still trotting out the same ridiculous economic principals of the establishment republicans of old. Namely that you can tax cut the nation into prosperity. Their policies are identical, they have no ideas to solve the big issues facing the nation beyond "cut taxes on the rich, hope for the best" and "deregulation==good (What subprime mortgage crisis?)". They have no intention of tackling the deficit or else they would end the top 1% tax cuts. They have no intention of cutting the ballooning military spending which threatens us far more than Al Queda (Not that the pansy modern day democrats would ever think of trying to cut it either, mind you, but if you want to get serious about deficit reduction without raising taxes, there's where to cut).

    They have no new ideas, they just have louder old ideas.

  19. AFK 47

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    Oh, by the way. Obama's agenda is by no means "radical", it's far, far too moderate and corporation-friendly. He just keeps trying for impossible compromises when what he needs to do is make the case to the American people for his policies, and he hasn't done that. The right wing spin machine will continue to distort and confuse the issues, and make even the most conservative legislation (the romneycare healthcare bill for example), into a marxist plot to kill old people.

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