Sileath Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Source The respective parties are not obliged to offer assistance should either signatory alliance become involved in a conflict via other treaties with other alliances or blocs. Either signatory alliance may offer assistance in such an event but any assistance would be voluntary. DOOM DoW on NSO -> STA DoW on DOOM via MDP -> NpO chooses to DoW on DOOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 OK, just so the official STA statement can be recorded to future misrepresentation and taking out of context. As leader of the STA I see both ML and DOOM as alliances following their treaties when they know it will cause them a lot of damage. That earns nothing but respect from me and from my alliance members. ML have been nothing but courteous to the STA during the war and I'd like to maintain that level of civility and respect between our alliances despite the war we are fighting. Goading ML to attack the NpO or DOOM to attack the STA is needless baiting and I'd like it to stop. ML doesn't have nations able to declare an offensive and DOOM can hardly be expected to takeon multiple alliances let alone take another offensive front. I'm all for lighthearted banter, I just don't think alliances who honour treaties, especially when they do so in the face of insurmountable odds, deserve and crap for it. The STA took a lot of crap last war despite being in a similar position to ML and those people giving the crap just looked like tools. I'd prefer my alliance did not go down that path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceArutha Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 The OP doesn't say anything about treaties. Are you qualified to speak for the NpO? Fair enough, the OP doesn't mention the treaty. However, it should be fairly common knowledge which treaty is being activated since there was an imperial announcement from the New Polar Order made stating under what conditions they would enter into the current conflict. Of course, I don't speak for NpO, but it appears to be fairly common knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proko Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 The OP doesn't say anything about treaties. Are you qualified to speak for the NpO? An Excerpt from Article III of the treaty "Permafrost," to which the New Polar Order and the Siberian Tiger Alliance, and only the New Polar Order and the Siberian Tiger Alliance, are party to. The respective parties are not obliged to offer assistance should either signatory alliance become involved in a conflict via other treaties with other alliances or blocs. Either signatory alliance may offer assistance in such an event but any assistance would be voluntary. We offered. They accepted. No hard feelings DOOM and Molon Labe. Polaris never had a personal stake in this conflict and we still do not. However, we take the protection of our Tigers and their immediate friends (like NSO) very seriously. To a good fight, and to great war stories to be shared post war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobama Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 OK, just so the official STA statement can be recorded to future misrepresentation and taking out of context. As leader of the STA I see both ML and DOOM as alliances following their treaties when they know it will cause them a lot of damage. That earns nothing but respect from me and from my alliance members. ML have been nothing but courteous to the STA during the war and I'd like to maintain that level of civility and respect between our alliances despite the war we are fighting.Goading ML to attack the NpO or DOOM to attack the STA is needless baiting and I'd like it to stop. ML doesn't have nations able to declare an offensive and DOOM can hardly be expected to takeon multiple alliances let alone take another offensive front. I'm all for lighthearted banter, I just don't think alliances who honour treaties, especially when they do so in the face of insurmountable odds, deserve and crap for it. The STA took a lot of crap last war despite being in a similar position to ML and those people giving the crap just looked like tools. I'd prefer my alliance did not go down that path. Now this is the sorta statement I like to see. Wise words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proko Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 To those concerned, I have updated the OP with a link to my post and the relevant text. A shout-out to Sileath for beating me to it by 2 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Just to be clear, we at DOOM are in it for the long haul. We roll with Molon Labe. Read whatever you like into this but we fight, kill and die together. End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leprechaun Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thanks Sileath, much appreciated. Maybe common knowledge to some, But as I learned Common knowledge is not so common. I do not go around reading 95 million treaties. Maybe I am lazy, colorblind and/or dyslexic (mostly the former). You're common knowledge of CN is not everybody elses. I apologize for "blowing up" a bit. I usually save that for my alliance mates and not OWF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Lube Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I apologize for "blowing up" a bit. I usually save that for my alliance mates and not OWF This is the truth. I also mean no disrespect to anyone in the STA or NSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceArutha Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Just to be clear, we at DOOM are in it for the long haul. We roll with Molon Labe.Read whatever you like into this but we fight, kill and die together. End of. Well said. This is absolutely how it should be done when you are friends/allies. Molon Laba is lucky to have you guys as allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thanks Sileath, much appreciated.Maybe common knowledge to some, But as I learned Common knowledge is not so common. I do not go around reading 95 million treaties. Maybe I am lazy, colorblind and/or dyslexic (mostly the former). You're common knowledge of CN is not everybody elses. I apologize for "blowing up" a bit. I usually save that for my alliance mates and not OWF Everyone should be granted a little bit of extra leeway when they are fighting against heavy odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fatbeard Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 As leader of the STA I see both ML and DOOM as alliances following their treaties when they know it will cause them a lot of damage. That earns nothing but respect from me and from my alliance members. I support Karma's cause and all and mean no disrespect to you guys, but why does everyone feel that suicide deserves praise? Suicide is a horrible terrible tragedy! And I think it's just sick to encourage people to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I support Karma's cause and all and mean no disrespect to you guys, but why does everyone feel that suicide deserves praise? Suicide is a horrible terrible tragedy! And I think it's just sick to encourage people to do it. They're not going to die over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobama Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I support Karma's cause and all and mean no disrespect to you guys, but why does everyone feel that suicide deserves praise? Suicide is a horrible terrible tragedy! And I think it's just sick to encourage people to do it. Suicide means you will never live again, and it is clear from the position of all Karma leaders that this will not happen to any alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fatbeard Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) They're not going to die over this. Suicide means you will never live again, and it is clear from the position of all Karma leaders that this will not happen to any alliance. Well, self-mutiliation is bad too and gross! Edited April 30, 2009 by Captain Fatbeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceArutha Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thanks Sileath, much appreciated.Maybe common knowledge to some, But as I learned Common knowledge is not so common. I do not go around reading 95 million treaties. Maybe I am lazy, colorblind and/or dyslexic (mostly the former). You're common knowledge of CN is not everybody elses. I apologize for "blowing up" a bit. I usually save that for my alliance mates and not OWF Its totally cool man. Apology accepted. I didn't think my post would be taken the way it was, it was meant "playful/funn" and came "across deuche bag/!@#$%^&" and after I re-read it I could understand how it came across a bit off-color. No harm no foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Everyone should be granted a little bit of extra leeway when they are fighting against heavy odds. Hnh. Depends entirely on who you are, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sileath Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 This is the truth. I also mean no disrespect to anyone in the STA or NSO. We're enjoying the great fight you're giving us way too much to be offended. To our hopefully being on the same side in the next great war! :jihad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobama Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Well, self-mutiliation is bad too and gross! What alliance here is attacking itself, besides NPO shooting itself in the foot a few times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reachwind Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 You know.... Just throwing this out there for all the DOOM, ML and hell even TPF folks... You don't have to be at war right now. It is not like the forces you are fighting are looking to crush you. This war has never been about you. To my friends in Polaris, Hail and well met. It is a pleasure to fight by your side one more time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Fool Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thanks for the assist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalaskan Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 hope you find slots. A few I'm sure...just to push the war to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leprechaun Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 You know.... Just throwing this out there for all the DOOM, ML and hell even TPF folks... You don't have to be at war right now.It is not like the forces you are fighting are looking to crush you. This war has never been about you. To my friends in Polaris, Hail and well met. It is a pleasure to fight by your side one more time. We are honoring our treaties and having fun with our allies. (we do not have to many treaties) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryievla Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 OK, just so the official STA statement can be recorded to future misrepresentation and taking out of context. As leader of the STA I see both ML and DOOM as alliances following their treaties when they know it will cause them a lot of damage. That earns nothing but respect from me and from my alliance members. ML have been nothing but courteous to the STA during the war and I'd like to maintain that level of civility and respect between our alliances despite the war we are fighting.Goading ML to attack the NpO or DOOM to attack the STA is needless baiting and I'd like it to stop. ML doesn't have nations able to declare an offensive and DOOM can hardly be expected to takeon multiple alliances let alone take another offensive front. I'm all for lighthearted banter, I just don't think alliances who honour treaties, especially when they do so in the face of insurmountable odds, deserve and crap for it. The STA took a lot of crap last war despite being in a similar position to ML and those people giving the crap just looked like tools. I'd prefer my alliance did not go down that path. Thank you. That was admirably spoken, and for that I salute you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Lube Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 You know.... Just throwing this out there for all the DOOM, ML and hell even TPF folks... You don't have to be at war right now.It is not like the forces you are fighting are looking to crush you. This war has never been about you. To my friends in Polaris, Hail and well met. It is a pleasure to fight by your side one more time. When our allies at TPF were attacked we had to respond due to treaty obligations. When DOOM saw us attacked they felt a debt was owed due to our close friendship. These wars are not something in which we have a choice. We signed treaties and will stick with them no matter what. o/ Honor o/ Friendship o/ DOOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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