PrinceArutha

Hey Jerdge, How have you been? There were some good people over there in NV. Now there are but a couple of us.... and well, not much class. about 50% classiness. haha I'm working on it.... I'm working on it... lol

who let this guy stick around for this long? How the heck have you been ol' friend? good to see you around.

sad to not see Nueva Vida up there any more..... what (besides stating an official DoE) do I have to do to see NV's name up there one last time Gopher? who's leg do I have to hump? oh yea, btw, hey how's it goin? guess I'm kinda back and hanging around a little bit as well.

that Tyga guy is pretty sexy... and so is this announcement.

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I for one blame Me.

good to see you guys are all still around. o/ old friends!

interesting indeed. Especially for me. Also, Hello again ChairmanHal. How's things?

The alliance I helped to build from the ground up finally may have rest. It was a great run and my inability to make time for my friends due to RL is sad. Since I stepped down as emperor some time ago I have been notably absent. Formerly I had but 1 regret on Planet Bob and it was my greatest regret (Vidians and reicher's know of what I speak).... This is regrettable on such a grander level. I do not know where I will end up, I do not know what I may do. I always toy about making my presence felt here on Planet bob again one day but find that the stars are not aligned in that way. Vidians, I do so wish for us all to find a good home. Thank you to all of my friends and allies on Planet Bob. And Thank you again to our Honored Enemies as well. It has been a pleasure fighting against you and I hope to do so again in the near future. I will be seeking out a good home amongst friends. o/ Hoka Hey Take Care! Spike your hair! woo woo woo! You know it!

o/ welcome aboard!

[quote name='Nelchael' timestamp='1297752788' post='2634235'] PA beat me to it, now I'm not posting any flower porn. Congrats on 5 years, but I'm disappointed. I really thought you'd be announcing your exit from neutrality and joining the war [/quote] oh, but I wanna see more flower pron!!!!

[quote name='uaciaut' timestamp='1297636020' post='2631529'] This doesn't make sense though, as long as my bombers are alive they should be able to do their jobs provided that fighters can support them accordingly. Attacking with 90+ fighters and 3 bombers a nation with a third that fighting capacity and further destroying it's aircraft while doing no infra damage makes 0 sense unless the fighters somehow got lost or something. And as oink pointed out nukes never miss nations without SDI (the equivalent of which would be AADN), and neither do CM's. The closest analogy to this would be GA's ending in draws but even that's a strech since i'm still technically winning the air fights without doing any damage. [/quote] tell your pilots to stop drinking the night before and to quit missing targets.

Congrats/Condolences on your achievement/failure. I really have no opinion of you guys/girls over there/here in neutral zone. Goodluck or Good riddance whichever is less/more along the lines/(circles?) of what should/shouldnt be said here/there. It's good/bad to see you guys still being the neutral menace/pansies. [img]http://www.stanford.edu/~grg/images/orange_flower.jpg[/img] In celebration/commisseration I offer you a most neutral flower pron.

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1297726364' post='2633556'] Who will Nordreich hate on now? Good luck to your former members in finding new homes. [/quote] Hopefully NV. Goodluck former TGEers. Hope you all find a new home and can bring some new life to whatever alliances you go to.

[quote name='Penkala' timestamp='1297664001' post='2632550'] I assure you that this war will be ended fairly and that CSN will treat DT with all the dignity and respect that they earn throughout this conflict. CSN isn't ready to let DT off just yet with white peace, so the war continues. *shrug* Plenty of alliances haven't even been OFFERED terms to end the war yet. I don't see you decrying the EZI of all of their members. Give it time and this war will be resolved just like any other. DT just saw a chance to take an early peace offer and turn it into propaganda points. It's sad that a lot of people are falling for it. [/quote] Doesnt look like propaganda to me.... I havent seen anyone dispute what was said. Sure, DT has worded things in the OP in a light such as to hit on the points however, It looks pretty cut and dry. They posted the information that was already public and made it...More public? I think you understand where I am going on this one. I'm not trying to stir the pot or bash CSN. My personal opinion is that CSN is acting like an asshat and I know you (fairly well) and I believe that if you remove yourself from the situation and look at it from an unbiased 3rd party you might lean a little more towards my way of viewing the situation. Granted, my view MIGHT be a little skewed due to being friends with pretty much everyone in DT's government. Also, having RIA jump DT who are already trying to negotiate peace terms doesnt seem like trying to "work things out".

Duly noted. On a side note, CSN, you realize that planet bob has the memory of an elephant. The powers that be (whichever side) will remember how you have treated your opponent. As has happened in every major war (KARMA, UJP, THIS ONE) the loser is typically treated as they have treated their opponents in the past. Treat opponents of today with dignity, honor and respect as those who are opponents today could be allies tomorrow. You are not only cutting ties with DT and her allies over this but those whom you are allied to as of now (or potentially in the future) are now looking at you with distaste in their mouths. Regardless of whoever you are supposedly a "puppet" of this looks very poorly on you, this issue is NOT about GOD or Xiphosis. They are not the important parts of this issue. The important part of the issue is that you are now asking for a ridiculous amount of reps from an alliance much in the same way that your opponents on the other side of the treaty web (NpO, NPO) used to do back in their glory days. In that sense, you have become what you hate..... Good luck to my friends in DT.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1297297982' post='2627430'] yes, i am the real Mogar, you see? [/quote] Join Nueva Vida..... for obvious reasons....

[quote name='the damned' timestamp='1297188637' post='2625853'] If you would be willing, may i recommend a 200 word review of Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout by the North Coast Brewing company? Also, o/ Peace All of my targets were quiet but respectful. [/quote] I am currently doing a review tonight and I dont like to mix beers due to flavors colliding. but I will do one on that this weekend.

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1297144424' post='2625350'] Wow a lot of alliances involved in this, it must have been a huge pain in the butt pocket to organize. Good work by everyone involved and congrats on not being rep clowns. Hope you all had a lot of fun [/quote] Neither side was in any position to demand reps. Both sides could have continued fighting and broke a lot of !@#$.

[quote name='Shinfat' timestamp='1297130744' post='2624923'] Our alliances didn't directly engage each other, but I'll be happy to try that beer (if I can find it) and review it. Here is one of my favorites you can review -- http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/72/763 EDIT: Found the Piraat. Will give it a try tonight. [/quote] I dont care if we were engaged. I just want a reason to drink beer and figured someone else might as well. haha. I will go try it tonight actually. If you are familiar with ale's then you will appreciate it and at 10.5 you will enjoy it. decent price for the content. [quote name='fireguy15207' timestamp='1297130852' post='2624925'] Hit up "lostindenver." He said he'll review it. [/quote] I'll see what I can do. haha, I enjoy a new beer.

[quote name='Cable77' timestamp='1297126969' post='2624794'] Glad to see we were able to find peace. Our adversaries were honorable opponent and they have my respect. [/quote] No U! It was fun blowing up stuff and most of the people I warred were pretty cool.... Good to see peace I guess.... Now back to boredom. I am disappointed that my requirement of a member from FARK had to drink and then write a beer review on my favorite beer "Piraat" http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/48/156 I was willing to try a beer of choice from a member of an opposing alliance and write a review for them as well..... and I am still willing to as I love to try new beer. So, if anyone has any suggestions and would be willing to swap reviews then let me know.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1296943404' post='2620994'] [color="#0000FF"]You're going after Duckroll? Really? Any particular reason, because I don't really recall them doing much of anything lately. I'm not sure you've thought this out the whole way through.[/color] [/quote] He's tired of innocent bystanders being destroyed just cause they exist. So he is going to go all out against innocent bystanders because they didnt side with his side. I am pretty sure he HAS thought this whole thing through and this is the conclusion he came to.

[quote name='Raider' timestamp='1296877363' post='2619807'] This war has so far destroyed 10% of the total combined NS of Planet Bob. You're welcome [/quote] Here's to ten more.

[quote]Our AA cannot be Vox Populi, for this is not a reformation of the same alliance, simply the same ideas, but we can be a derivative: simply "Vox." [/quote] [quote name='Rebounder' timestamp='1296880760' post='2619871'] You cannot take my voice. I do not pretend to be the Voice of the People, and when I make such a claim, then you'll have a duty to disown me. For now, it's my voice and the voices of a small handful of others, and for that we ar esimply "Vox." Besides, don't pretend you didn't take up the cause to exact your vengeance upon NPO. You used the movement for your personal vendetta, and you should be ashamed of it. [/quote] If the movement was for a personal vendetta then why are you trying to resurrect it? Try harder. a watered down version of vox is not what planet bob needs. a vox2.0 is not what is needed. You have taken something that was good and "holy" and used it to gain a little fame. You then insult one of the leaders and figurehead members(if you will) of the movement you are trying to bring back. You say, "I do not pretend to be the voice of the people" yet you banter on about it hoping people will see you as good and noble and use you as there voice. You do not have the personality cult of a Doitzel, ES, or KZ. The Vox Populi movement was not one that will be able to be recreated by a mere mortal man. It was something that happened because it was a set of perfect circumstances that came together and it was something that "Mother Bob" created because the very fiber of "Mother Bob" needed vox so that she might create a more perfect bob.

[quote name='Rebounder' timestamp='1296872506' post='2619741'] [img]http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/f/f7/Vox7-2.png[/img] Ladies and Gentlemen of Planet Bob, I appear before you today tired, yet troubled. All around us, tired arguments are being used by partisans of two sides, arguments that have been used for years. Even I, a former Voxian, have been guilty of this, as before and after the Karma War I have changed sides and drastically altered my arguments over time. However, I am not alone in this, as Pacificans now cry foul for someone declaring war without a "CB," and Mushroom Kingdom members claim that a CB is not necessary for a "just war." One does not need to be a scholar to see that our world has not changed in recent years; it has only shifted. Those in power still seek only to stay in power, those out of power seek to become in power, and those who follow those in power still follow those in power. The vast majority of citizens who argue for their alliance either argue against the immoral nature of the hegemony, or, if the arguer is on the opposite side, against the immoral nature of the hegemony that would be in place if the current hegemony was not immoral. As someone who has been around long enough to see two opposing side switch their arguments as the power structure shifted, I am disgusted. The dream of Vox Populi has never been realized. Independent, multi-polar politics has yet to exist on Planet Bob; cowardly alliances still align themselves with whomever is in power, and together they all gang up on those who are not in power. Morals has little to nothing to do with the motivations of these alliances, as I clarified once [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=76449"]before[/url]. Instead, the detestable power structure of Bob is fed, as it has always been, by the lack of independence of major alliances. As always, alliances such as MHA, Sparta, ODN, TOP, VE, FAN, and the like, who could be capable of significant achievements themselves, bow to the whims of an alliance whom they perceive to be almighty. It is not against these alliances we must fight, but rather against the perception that independent action is a punishable folly. Today must be the end of schoolyard politics, in which one must be either the bully or the geek.We must, together, show the world that the alliances behind which they align are not almighty, but simple alliances, not unlike any other. I had hoped the Karma War would have shown this fact to the world, but sadly the mission of leading Planet Bob to brighter days falls upon our generation. If nothing else, Karma at least taught us that a group of determined individuals, as we saw in Vox Populi, can make a difference. Today, I begin a fight to continue on their mission. Come stand with me, and we can finish what Vox Populi started. Fear not the hegemons, they fear you more than you could ever fear them. Our AA cannot be Vox Populi, for this is not a reformation of the same alliance, simply the same ideas, but we can be a derivative: simply "Vox." Everything Must Die, so that the world may be reborn. P.S. I am not alone in this mission as of this moment. If you wish to assist us, do as others have done, and volunteer your services from within your current alliance, or from a new one. We are accepting all secret applications for intelligence agents. Together, we can break the chains that bind us. Also, our primary target at this time is the Coward Coalition 2.0. Enjoy, Duckroll. [/quote] You sir, are no doitzel (who is really?) .... But I do wish you luck in your endeavor.