Ninja Election Announcement

[Beefspari]

[quote name='DanDesade' timestamp='1285807063' post='2468990']
I wonder if there was any discussion between GOONS and their allies.

Options being

(GOONS to allies) Help we're being attacked

(GOONS to allies) Don't help we can handle this

(Allies to GOONS) shut up GOONS, you can't handle this, we don't care if you think you can, we're joining in and we could care less about your future PR
[/quote]
Yeah these are definitely the only options. There's no "(Allies to GOONS) That looks fun, can we jump in?" In fact that so didn't happen, I'm going to fake logs of what it might look like if it could have (but that's an absurd notion).

<Nolissar|OSA> Beefspari[GOONS]: what is this I hear about somebody DoWing on GOONS
<Beefspari[GOONS]> the ninjas dropped their treaty with VE (including ignoring the grace period) and attacked GOONS before reset.
<Nolissar|OSA> Ejay...
<Nolissar|OSA> any slots left?
<Beefspari[GOONS]> Should be.
<Nolissar|OSA> okay

<Drai> so of those 90k+ ones we're taking 1
<Drai> is that cool?
<Drai> I can do more if you guys want

<Banslam> So GOONS mind if I join in?

<Kagami> I saw that one before update and thought... This one is mine.

<MikeTheFirst[iFOK]> arexes and I jumped on a guy.

[mrwuss]

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1285808617' post='2469018']
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[HalfEmpty]

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1285738223' post='2467848']
You guys do realize, in the long run, this will only make us stronger, right?
[/quote]

I saw this movie before. The ship hits an iceberg. Most die, a few survivors and lots of money made.

[Lusitan]

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1285805209' post='2468958']
I would just like to add that no nations from the following alliances can say GOONS are cowards because they "can't stand up" to 15 or so nations alone. Especially Moo.

NPO + Invicta + UPN + TDE + NATO + NpO + GGA + IRON + TBE + ONE + NATO + ODN + TFD

http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Jarheads
[/quote]

I am a bit confused about the correlation you establish between GOONS's upper tier nations fighting Ninja's 12 nations and Jarhead's 400 mini-nations attacking whatever the amount of mini-nations NPO had at the time.

Whatever. I don't think you'll see anyone from TFD calling GOONS cowards, they're perfectly entitled to call on their allies to assist them in a legit alliance war with or without a casus belli. Allies would probably do better if they posted a DoW, but ally idiocy is only partially GOON fault.

With that said, and on a personal note, the word "joke" would occur me first to describe GOONS rather than "cowards" based on the ammount of [s]mockery[/s] thrash I have been reading about GOONS lately and with them playing along pushing the punishments they do. Though this "I'll make you do this because I can" attitude from them reminds me sadly of "Dare to attack us and you'll see how long it takes for NPO to remind you why we don't need a WRC". Doesn't mean GOONS are cowards, but tells alot about their allies.

[Ejayrazz]

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Edited September 30, 2010 by Ejayrazz

[hobbies0310]

I hope there is alot of ninjas!

o/ Bravery

[Detlev]

It done to be had. Have guys, fun.

Wreck them goons.

[Xavii]

[quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1285809136' post='2469028']
I am a bit confused about the correlation you establish between GOONS's upper tier nations fighting Ninja's 12 nations and Jarhead's 400 mini-nations attacking whatever the amount of mini-nations NPO had at the time.

Whatever. I don't think you'll see anyone from TFD calling GOONS cowards, they're perfectly entitled to call on their allies to assist them in a legit alliance war with or without a casus belli. Allies would probably do better if they posted a DoW, but ally idiocy is only partially GOON fault.

With that said, and on a personal note, the word "joke" would occur me first to describe GOONS rather than "cowards" based on the ammount of [s]mockery[/s] thrash I have been reading about GOONS lately and with them playing along pushing the punishments they do. Though this "I'll make you do this because I can" attitude from them reminds me sadly of "Dare to attack us and you'll see how long it takes for NPO to remind you why we don't need a WRC". Doesn't mean GOONS are cowards, but tells alot about their allies.
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Never said TFD called them cowards, just added all the alliances that took part to cover a broader spectrum.

The correlation is pretty clear. Jarhead's had a bunch of "extra nations" hitting the lower tiers of NPO, obviously to many for them to handle so they called in every ally they had. In this situation GOONS can't handle the mid/top tier nations the ninjas + bandwagoners simply because they have very few in that tier, therefore their allies help them out.

Edited September 30, 2010 by Xavii

[Lusitan]

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1285810492' post='2469056']
Never said TFD called them cowards, just added all the alliances that took part to cover a broader spectrum.

The correlation is pretty clear. Jarhead's had a bunch of multis hitting the lower tiers of NPO, obviously to many for them to handle so they called in every ally they had. In this situation GOONS can't handle the mid/top tier nations the ninjas + bandwagoners simply because they have very few in that tier, therefore their allies help them out.
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12 to any number smaller than 12 (GOONS's nations) has still a very long way to go to the 400 to whatever the number of very small nations NPO had.

EDIT: I am not saying GOONS's allies shouldn't have helped them, just that comparing this too Jarheads is too big of a stretch

Edited September 30, 2010 by Lusitan

[Xerxer]

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1285810492' post='2469056']
Never said TFD called them cowards, just added all the alliances that took part to cover a broader spectrum.

The correlation is pretty clear. Jarhead's had a bunch of "extra nations" hitting the lower tiers of NPO, obviously to many for them to handle so they called in every ally they had. In this situation GOONS can't handle the mid/top tier nations the ninjas + bandwagoners simply because they have very few in that tier, therefore their allies help them out.
[/quote]

I'm sorry, where did the term "bandwagoners" come from? Alliance seniority being low has nothing to do with this...

[Gamemaster1]

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1285805209' post='2468958']
I would just like to add that no nations from the following alliances can say GOONS are cowards because they "can't stand up" to 15 or so nations alone. Especially Moo.

NPO + Invicta + UPN + TDE + NATO + NpO + GGA + IRON + TBE + ONE + NATO + ODN + TFD

http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Jarheads
[/quote]
I love how you picked a situation totally different from the current one and tried to compare the two.

Hey, at least we recognized them as an alliance and issued DoWs.

[Crymson]

Finally someone takes a risk and a stand.

Of course, nobody will support them. The alliances in "power" now are a bunch o'cowards more interested in saving their arses than in either playing the game or doing what's right.

Edited September 30, 2010 by Crymson

[Xavii]

[quote name='Xerxer' timestamp='1285811278' post='2469067']
I'm sorry, where did the term "bandwagoners" come from? Alliance seniority being low has nothing to do with this...
[/quote]
Suuure.


[quote name='Gamemaster1' timestamp='1285811350' post='2469070']
I love how you picked a situation totally different from the current one and tried to compare the two.

Hey, at least we recognized them as an alliance and issued DoWs.
[/quote]
The OWF don't need 3-4 more topics of discussion like this, and I do find the situations comparable. So there.

[Xerxer]

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1285811809' post='2469076']
Suuure.
[/quote]

Seriously. I'm a Ninjas founder, and I've been hiding out under various AA's for the past few days. The whole point was to have sleeper nations to counter GOONS (mostly their allies) as they declared... Hardly bandwagoning...

[RePePe]

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1285811809' post='2469076']
Suuure.[/quote]

When one alliance clearly refers to another distinctly as an alliance, they were just kidding and being sarcastic; take their word for it.

When another alliance explains the low seniority as not being bandwagoners, they must be lying; don't believe them.

I highly doubt the treaty web has anything to do with this hypocrisy.

Edited September 30, 2010 by RePePe

[Xavii]

[quote name='Xerxer' timestamp='1285812008' post='2469081']
Seriously. I'm a Ninjas founder, and I've been hiding out under various AA's for the past few days. The whole point was to have sleeper nations to counter GOONS (mostly their allies) as they declared... Hardly bandwagoning...
[/quote]
That's why you all come back even before the counter has really started? Makes sense.

edit : But I won't argue it, I just referred to them as bandwagoners to address whatever nations that have joined in after the DoW was placed, sleeper cell or not, not really a big deal.

Edited September 30, 2010 by Xavii

[magicninja]

I always wondered why people would treaty GoOnS. It seems it's just to use them for their ability to attract trouble and once the action starts take all the action for themselves. If GoOnS had any pride they would say "Hey we got this". Seems they have no pride and are fine with letting their "friends" take their glory.

Kinda sad GoOnS. I guess you are what everyone thought you were.

[JT Jag]

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1285812699' post='2469089']
If GoOnS had any pride they would say "Hey we got this".
[/quote]would you people please stop spouting this fallacy?

[magicninja]

[quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1285812957' post='2469092']
would you people please stop spouting this fallacy?
[/quote]

I know it's not your fault. Your allies basically gave you no choice and just butted in. It seems we know your use to them as this is how it has been time and time again. Looks to me like you allow yourselves to be used like this. Maybe do really care about you though.

[Ejayrazz]

[ooc]Tell yo Goonie little friend who accessed my Myspace and distributed my photos around to back the $%&@ off. Thanks in advance.[/ooc]

Edited September 30, 2010 by Ejayrazz

[Sardonic]

If nothing else, this event has certainly exposed certain individuals to be completely worthless intellectually.

Please, please continue to ruin intelligent people's opinions of you guys by continuing to trot out this moronic argument that we should have gone this alone.

Edited September 30, 2010 by Sardonic

[Vol Navy]

[quote name='Ejayrazz' timestamp='1285813468' post='2469099']
[ooc]Tell yo Goonie little friend who accessed my Myspace and distributed my photos around to back the $%&@ off. Thanks in advance.[/ooc]
[/quote]


If this actually happened it's pretty dang sad.

[mrwuss]

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1285812699' post='2469089']
I always wondered why people would treaty GoOnS. It seems it's just to use them for their ability to attract trouble and once the action starts take all the action for themselves. If GoOnS had any pride they would say "Hey we got this". Seems they have no pride and are fine with letting their "friends" take their glory.

Kinda sad GoOnS. I guess you are what everyone thought you were.
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[Ejayrazz]

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1285812308' post='2469084']
That's why you all come back even before the counter has really started? Makes sense.

edit : But I won't argue it, I just referred to them as bandwagoners to address whatever nations that have joined in after the DoW was placed, sleeper cell or not, not really a big deal.
[/quote]
Nah man, those who are involved are all over the place. We didn't put them all in our AA, we knew we'd be cross declared, as such, we plan accordingly.

[Haquertal]

[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1285813671' post='2469106']
If this actually happened it's pretty dang sad.
[/quote]

I agree with this 100%

No reason to do something like that :|