Arrnea Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295359379' post='2581235'] The funny part here is that it isn't a defensive war. Whoops. [/quote] Funny, I didn't see a Polar declaration of war before VE jumped in... guess my eyesight must be [b]really[/b] bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='abdur' timestamp='1295356058' post='2581197'] So much for this: [img]http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3345/rokpolaris02.png[/img] [/quote] When I made it, the signature made sense and I hope it stills make. I'd be really sad if RoK swallow this flimsy CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1295359523' post='2581237'] Funny, I didn't see a Polar declaration of war before VE jumped in... guess my eyesight must be [b]really[/b] bad. [/quote] Spying isn't a aggressive action anymore? Who keeps changing these rules? Edited January 18, 2011 by neneko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrnea Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1295359691' post='2581240']When I made it, the signature made sense and I hope it stills make. I'd be really sad if RoK swallow this flimsy CB.[/quote] Don't get your hopes up, D34th. Hoo leaving the alliance he led for Haruhi-knows how long out of disgust at their stance towards Polar (and then joining Polar) speaks volumes. [quote name='neneko' timestamp='1295359756' post='2581242']Spying isn't a aggressive action anymore? Who keeps changing these rules? [/quote] Why, it was VE, iFOK and PC of course. The savvy out there will know what I mean. Edited January 18, 2011 by Arrnea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volgan Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Now hold on there young fella's. Wouoldn't it be better to sit down and work this out in a civilised manner and spare us all any unplesantnes and grief. No??? Ok then some ground rules as we're civilised people. The use of knuckle busters, barbed wire wraps, wood spiked with nails, knives, baseball bats or any other hand held and vicious weapon is allowed. Hitting below the waist, kicking, biteing or gulging of the eyes is allowed, kicking an opponent or stomping on his head when he is down is allowed and indeed encouraged. Now, gentlemen: are your seconds in attendance, VE i see you brought Poison clan and iFOK with you. Npo? no one to act as your second and attend you. Hmmmm!! that doesn't seem fare and equal. Point of order I think, ganging up on ones opponent - is allowed - now go to it and lets have a clean fight. Edited January 18, 2011 by Volgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1295359523' post='2581237'] Funny, I didn't see a Polar declaration of war before VE jumped in... guess my eyesight must be [b]really[/b] bad. [/quote] Polaris effectively declared war when their second in command actively encouraged and gsve advice to a spy on VE. Please try to keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1295359817' post='2581245'] Don't get your hopes up, D34th. Hoo leaving the alliance he led for Haruhi-knows how long out of disgust at their stance towards Polar (and then joining Polar) speaks volumes. [/quote] Yeah I know, but a man can hopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrnea Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295359937' post='2581250']Polaris effectively declared war when their second in command actively encouraged and gsve advice to a spy on VE. Please try to keep up.[/quote] I'm sure this logical deduction is news to VE, iFOK and PC, since it didn't seem to apply in the weeks leading up to this war breaking out. Short answer: It's only applicable when convenient. Welcome to Planet Bob. Leave your expectations of consistency at the door. Edited January 18, 2011 by Arrnea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis the II Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1295359523' post='2581237'] Funny, I didn't see a Polar declaration of war before VE jumped in... guess my eyesight must be [b]really[/b] bad. [/quote] Spying is considered an act of aggression, which would make this war an offensive war for polar and defensive for VE. PS. I am not saying that the CB is solid or not. just saying that once you assume the spying true then it is an act of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='neneko' timestamp='1295359756' post='2581242'] Spying isn't a aggressive action anymore? Who keeps changing these rules? [/quote] At this point you know what we are going to say in response to this and why we think VE attacked us, and why this is an aggressive war on VE's part. I think it's pretty obvious MK and Polar don't have the same opinion on the situation . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrnea Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='King Louis the II' timestamp='1295360477' post='2581258']Spying is considered an act of aggression, which would make this war an offensive war for polar and defensive for VE.[/quote] Wouldn't have if you'd asked VE/PC/iFOK that question a week or so ago and changed some of the names. Like I said, applicable when convenient, as usual. Edit: In any case, those that have sown seeds of their own destruction here shall reap them in due time. Such is the way of the world. Edited January 18, 2011 by Arrnea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Ryan Greenberg' timestamp='1295360566' post='2581259'] At this point you know what we are going to say in response to this and why we think VE attacked us, and why this is an aggressive war on VE's part. I think it's pretty obvious MK and Polar don't have the same opinion on the situation . [/quote] I thought the argument was over whether this makes VE hypocrites or not. I haven't seen anyone dispute the claim that what NpO did was spying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1295342393' post='2580995'] Like I said, I was there. Were you? <Random_Gone> [b]I am not going to waste my life speaking to you[/b] when it's clear you are not capable of understanding what a simple issue this is <Impero[VE]> ah, theres that tone your so famous for <Random_Gone> Only when dealing with people like you <Impero[VE]> your right, it is simple, hence this being where we are <Impero[VE]> now, if theres nothing else? <Random_Gone> Enjoy your war. Congratulations on a successful setup, and I'll see you on the other side <Impero[VE]> im sorry you feel that way <Impero[VE]> have a great night There you go; Random saying "Screw diplomacy, I'm not going to discuss anything with you." efb by impero!!@ [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]Random did try diplomacy, however, he has a point. Why bother when you know it's not going to accomplish anything? Sure, it's all part of the act. They talk, nothing happens, then war, and then VE gets to say that at least it tried. Why bother with the charade? There are times when there just is no reasoning with people.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Ryan Greenberg' timestamp='1295360566' post='2581259']At this point you know what we are going to say in response to this and why we think VE attacked us, and why this is an aggressive war on VE's part. I think it's pretty obvious MK and Polar don't have the same opinion on the situation .[/quote] Yes well unfortunately for you Ragnarok happens to share our opinion on this particular matter. [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1295360600' post='2581260'] Wouldn't have if you'd asked VE/PC/iFOK that question a week or so ago and changed some of the names. Like I said, applicable when convenient, as usual. [/quote] You're still trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole. I applaud your doggedness, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The John Smith Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/2m859wk.png[/IMG] This was my face when I saw this thread. Oh well, lets enjoy another pointless war while it lasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrnea Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295360782' post='2581267']You're still trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole. I applaud your doggedness, I suppose.[/quote] Do you even know what I'm talking about? It sure doesn't sound like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes the wise Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='neneko' timestamp='1295360736' post='2581264'] I thought the argument was over whether this makes VE hypocrites or not. I haven't seen anyone dispute the claim that what NpO did was spying. [/quote] Really??? http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97239&view=findpost&p=2579711 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1295360600' post='2581260']Edit: In any case, those that have sown seeds of their own destruction here shall reap them in due time. Such is the way of the world.[/quote] Time? What time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrnea Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295360953' post='2581275']Time? What time?[/quote] Due time, goodsir. In due time, all comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoindotnler Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='neneko' timestamp='1295360736' post='2581264'] I thought the argument was over whether this makes VE hypocrites or not. I haven't seen anyone dispute the claim that what NpO did was spying. [/quote] Actually there has been a lot of discussion on it, or it could be just me and bothering to read all 40 pages. Edited January 18, 2011 by xoindotnler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295360782' post='2581267'] Yes well unfortunately for you Ragnarok happens to share our opinion on this particular matter. [/quote] So? I don't really care what RoK thinks. It's their opinion. I still believe Polaris is in the right and VE is wrong. If I get stomped I get stomped, but at least we helped start another global war and finally end the stagnation. 5/8 isn't bad for one alliance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcturus Jefferson Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 How much does it take to hire you as a contractor, Voytek? VE et all don't even have to lift a finger anymore. Or is this pro bono work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Arrnea' timestamp='1295361040' post='2581277'] Due time, goodsir. In due time, all comes. [/quote] What if time... runs out? [quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' timestamp='1295361151' post='2581281'] How much does it take to hire you as a contractor, Voytek? VE et all don't even have to lift a finger anymore. Or is this pro bono work? [/quote] et al* Edited January 18, 2011 by Voytek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautology Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Van Hoo III' timestamp='1295331837' post='2580442'] Ragnarok has decided that Polar is in the wrong and that they will not be coming to their defense.[/quote] Although it would've been much easier while you were still a member of Ragnarok, I still recommend you talk with me if you want to know what's been decided. You know that's the way it's always worked in RoK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcturus Jefferson Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295361175' post='2581282'] et al* [/quote] See if I had you on my payroll I wouldn't have this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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