Delta1212 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Sigh. That greatly reduces my excitement that citadel might declare war on someone and all nations in the war eventually move out of range of each other due to the nation strength limits. That would of been good. All of the other blocs on that list put together have about 300 nations to Citadel's 200 in the top 5%. So all we have to do is unite everyone against Citadel in order to defeat them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylar Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 All of the other blocs on that list put together have about 300 nations to Citadel's 200 in the top 5%.So all we have to do is unite everyone against Citadel in order to defeat them! thats including the overlapping ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Tolkien Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 thats including the overlapping ? Especially including the overlapping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomede Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 All of the other blocs on that list put together have about 300 nations to Citadel's 200 in the top 5%.So all we have to do is unite everyone against Citadel in order to defeat them! brb, rebuilding warchest, increasing paranoia. Also hi Delta. Srsly, that'd be fun. I'd be down for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 thats including the overlapping ? I took the larger of overlapping blocs and then estimated that the final number would be a bit larger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I like these stats, Citadel seems to be doing good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unspeakable Evil Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) For anyone who wants to play the home game, here are the counts for every alliance with a Top 5% nation yesterday. 5% of the game is about 1,397 nations. In the 19,213 nations of the alliances with >20 members I recorded yesterday, 1,299 of the top 5% nations are accounted for (93.0%). OBR must have had <20 members, because they aren't recorded (they have 10-11 Top 5% members). +--------+------------------------------------------------+ | Number | Alliance | +--------+------------------------------------------------+ | 122 | The Order Of The Paradox | | 52 | Green Protection Agency | | 51 | Sparta | | 48 | The Grämlins | | 42 | World Task Force | | 41 | Mostly Harmless Alliance | | 35 | New Polar Order | | 30 | The Sweet Oblivion | | 27 | Orange Defense Network | | 27 | FOK | | 25 | Mushroom Kingdom | | 21 | The Democratic Order | | 21 | Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations | | 20 | We Are Perth Army | | 20 | The Order Of Light | | 19 | Umbrella | | 18 | Vanguard | | 18 | Fark | | 18 | Viridian Entente | | 16 | Ubercon | | 15 | Monos Archein | | 14 | Poison Clan | | 14 | New Sith Order | | 13 | Nueva Vida | | 13 | United Purple Nations | | 13 | Invicta | | 12 | The House Of Lords | | 12 | The Foreign Division | | 12 | Argent | | 12 | NATO | | 11 | Nordreich | | 11 | North Atlantic Defense Coalition | | 11 | RnR | | 11 | Siberian Tiger Alliance | | 11 | New Pacific Order | | 10 | Old Guard | | 10 | Alpha Omega | | 10 | The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons | | 10 | MOLON LABE | | 9 | The Templar Knights | | 9 | Genesis | | 9 | M*A*S*H | | 8 | The Resistance | | 8 | The Legion | | 8 | The Order Of Righteous Nations | | 8 | Confederation Of Organized Nations | | 8 | Fellowship Of Elite Allied Republics | | 8 | The Circle Of Icarus | | 8 | The Brigade | | 8 | R.O.C.K. | | 7 | Olympus | | 7 | The Dark Templar | | 7 | The Immortals | | 7 | Kronos | | 7 | 1 Touch Football | | 7 | LOSS | | 7 | Random Insanity Alliance | | 7 | Federation Of Buccaneers | | 7 | Athens | | 6 | Imperial Assault Alliance | | 6 | Ragnarok | | 6 | MFO | | 6 | Global Order Of Darkness | | 6 | Multicolored Cross-X Alliance | | 6 | Blackwater | | 6 | Bushido | | 6 | Greenland Republic | | 6 | THE IMPERIUM OF MAN | | 6 | Silence | | 6 | Zenith | | 6 | The German Empire | | 5 | Independent Republic Of Orange Nations | | 5 | Global Alliance And Treaty Organization | | 5 | United Commonwealth Of Nations | | 5 | Nusantara Elite Warriors | | 5 | Asgaard | | 5 | Iunctus | | 5 | Christian Coalition Of Countries | | 5 | OMFG | | 4 | The Aquatic Brotherhood | | 4 | FCC | | 4 | Knights Of Ni! | | 4 | AGW Overlords | | 4 | Open Source Alliance | | 4 | IFOK | | 4 | The International | | 4 | The Family | | 4 | Valhalla | | 4 | Grand Global Alliance | | 4 | Green Old Party | | 3 | Pirates Of The Parrot Order | | 3 | Nations United For Freedom | | 3 | Veritas Aequitas | | 3 | Wolfpack | | 3 | Goon Order Of Oppression Negligence And Sadism | | 3 | Alliance Of International Defence | | 3 | Seaworthy Liberian Cardboard Boxes | | 3 | The Liquor Cabinet | | 3 | Nemesis | | 3 | Global United Nations | | 3 | United Sovereign Nations | | 3 | NOVA | | 2 | Guru Order | | 2 | Global Democratic Alliance | | 2 | Libertarian Socialist Federation | | 2 | Aurora Borealis | | 2 | SBA | | 2 | Nations Empowered Against Totalitarianism | | 2 | Deck Of International Card Experts | | 2 | Knights Of Cydonia | | 2 | Coalition Of Royal Allied Powers | | 2 | FOA | | 2 | HYDRA | | 2 | Orion | | 2 | Federation Of Armed Nations | | 2 | Soldiers Of Liberty | | 2 | The Brain | | 2 | SSSW18 | | 2 | Rubber Ducky Division | | 1 | Phoenix Rising | | 1 | The United Front | | 1 | The Forsaken Ones | | 1 | SNAFU | | 1 | Republic Of Allied Defenses | | 1 | The Black Hand | | 1 | Internet Superheroes | | 1 | Coalition Of Independent Nations | | 1 | The Centurion Brotherhood | | 1 | Ordo Verde | | 1 | New World Order | | 1 | Finnish Cooperation Organization | | 1 | Pandemic | | 1 | Grey Council | | 1 | Menotah | | 1 | LXXQTJMN | | 1 | Ascended Republic Of Elite States | | 1 | 57th Overlanders | | 1 | Carpe Diem | | 1 | Union Of Integrated National Entities | | 1 | Itova | | 1 | Democratic Open Community | | 1 | The Imperial Order | +--------+------------------------------------------------+ 142 rows in set (20.16 sec) Edited August 19, 2009 by Unspeakable Evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 For anyone who wants to play the home game, here are the counts for every alliance with a Top 5% nation yesterday.5% of the game is about 1,397 nations. In the 19,213 nations of the alliances with >20 members I recorded yesterday, 1,299 of the top 5% nations are accounted for (93.0%). OBR must have had <20 members, because they aren't recorded (they have 10-11 Top 5% members). +--------+------------------------------------------------+ | Number | Alliance | +--------+------------------------------------------------+ | 122 | The Order Of The Paradox | | 52 | Green Protection Agency | | 51 | Sparta | | 48 | The Grämlins | | 42 | World Task Force | | 41 | Mostly Harmless Alliance | | 35 | New Polar Order | | 30 | The Sweet Oblivion | | 27 | Orange Defense Network | | 27 | FOK | | 25 | Mushroom Kingdom | | 21 | The Democratic Order | | 21 | Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations | | 20 | We Are Perth Army | | 20 | The Order Of Light | | 19 | Umbrella | | 18 | Vanguard | | 18 | Fark | | 18 | Viridian Entente | | 16 | Ubercon | | 15 | Monos Archein | | 14 | Poison Clan | | 14 | New Sith Order | | 13 | Nueva Vida | | 13 | United Purple Nations | | 13 | Invicta | | 12 | The House Of Lords | | 12 | The Foreign Division | | 12 | Argent | | 12 | NATO | | 11 | Nordreich | | 11 | North Atlantic Defense Coalition | | 11 | RnR | | 11 | Siberian Tiger Alliance | | 11 | New Pacific Order | | 10 | Old Guard | | 10 | Alpha Omega | | 10 | The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons | | 10 | MOLON LABE | | 9 | The Templar Knights | | 9 | Genesis | | 9 | M*A*S*H | | 8 | The Resistance | | 8 | The Legion | | 8 | The Order Of Righteous Nations | | 8 | Confederation Of Organized Nations | | 8 | Fellowship Of Elite Allied Republics | | 8 | The Circle Of Icarus | | 8 | The Brigade | | 8 | R.O.C.K. | | 7 | Olympus | | 7 | The Dark Templar | | 7 | The Immortals | | 7 | Kronos | | 7 | 1 Touch Football | | 7 | LOSS | | 7 | Random Insanity Alliance | | 7 | Federation Of Buccaneers | | 7 | Athens | | 6 | Imperial Assault Alliance | | 6 | Ragnarok | | 6 | MFO | | 6 | Global Order Of Darkness | | 6 | Multicolored Cross-X Alliance | | 6 | Blackwater | | 6 | Bushido | | 6 | Greenland Republic | | 6 | THE IMPERIUM OF MAN | | 6 | Silence | | 6 | Zenith | | 6 | The German Empire | | 5 | Independent Republic Of Orange Nations | | 5 | Global Alliance And Treaty Organization | | 5 | United Commonwealth Of Nations | | 5 | Nusantara Elite Warriors | | 5 | Asgaard | | 5 | Iunctus | | 5 | Christian Coalition Of Countries | | 5 | OMFG | | 4 | The Aquatic Brotherhood | | 4 | FCC | | 4 | Knights Of Ni! | | 4 | AGW Overlords | | 4 | Open Source Alliance | | 4 | IFOK | | 4 | The International | | 4 | The Family | | 4 | Valhalla | | 4 | Grand Global Alliance | | 4 | Green Old Party | | 3 | Pirates Of The Parrot Order | | 3 | Nations United For Freedom | | 3 | Veritas Aequitas | | 3 | Wolfpack | | 3 | Goon Order Of Oppression Negligence And Sadism | | 3 | Alliance Of International Defence | | 3 | Seaworthy Liberian Cardboard Boxes | | 3 | The Liquor Cabinet | | 3 | Nemesis | | 3 | Global United Nations | | 3 | United Sovereign Nations | | 3 | NOVA | | 2 | Guru Order | | 2 | Global Democratic Alliance | | 2 | Libertarian Socialist Federation | | 2 | Aurora Borealis | | 2 | SBA | | 2 | Nations Empowered Against Totalitarianism | | 2 | Deck Of International Card Experts | | 2 | Knights Of Cydonia | | 2 | Coalition Of Royal Allied Powers | | 2 | FOA | | 2 | HYDRA | | 2 | Orion | | 2 | Federation Of Armed Nations | | 2 | Soldiers Of Liberty | | 2 | The Brain | | 2 | SSSW18 | | 2 | Rubber Ducky Division | | 1 | Phoenix Rising | | 1 | The United Front | | 1 | The Forsaken Ones | | 1 | SNAFU | | 1 | Republic Of Allied Defenses | | 1 | The Black Hand | | 1 | Internet Superheroes | | 1 | Coalition Of Independent Nations | | 1 | The Centurion Brotherhood | | 1 | Ordo Verde | | 1 | New World Order | | 1 | Finnish Cooperation Organization | | 1 | Pandemic | | 1 | Grey Council | | 1 | Menotah | | 1 | LXXQTJMN | | 1 | Ascended Republic Of Elite States | | 1 | 57th Overlanders | | 1 | Carpe Diem | | 1 | Union Of Integrated National Entities | | 1 | Itova | | 1 | Democratic Open Community | | 1 | The Imperial Order | +--------+------------------------------------------------+ 142 rows in set (20.16 sec) For some interesting perspective on this, the top 10 alliances in nations in the top 5%, from Drai's CN top 10 thread, from February 16th of this year: Alliances with the most nations in the top 5% of NS - ~59,5001. Independent Republic of Orange Nations: 106 2. The Order of the Paradox: 97 3. New Pacific Order: 90 4. Grämlins: 72 5. Multicolored Cross-X Alliance: 50 6. Sparta: 40 7. The Phoenix Federation: 39 8. Valhalla: 33 9. Mostly Harmless Alliance: 32 10. Orange Defense Network: 29 10. FARK: 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derantol Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I'd be interested to see the top 5% stat collected again after those who are currently under surrender terms are out. IRON gets out in a few days, so our nations that are just under the mark may pass it while remilitarizing. NPO is on here though, and I wonder what kind of presence they'll have in however many months when they finish surrender terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unspeakable Evil Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) For some interesting perspective on this, the top 10 alliances in nations in the top 5%, from Drai's CN top 10 thread, from February 16th of this year: I did a data run on 2009-02-15, and got the following (Top 5% was 59,385NS): +--------+----------------------------------------+ | Number | Alliance | +--------+----------------------------------------+ | 106 | Independent Republic Of Orange Nations | | 96 | The Order Of The Paradox | | 91 | New Pacific Order | | 74 | The Grämlins | | 54 | Multicolored Cross-X Alliance | | 40 | Sparta | | 39 | The Phoenix Federation | | 32 | Valhalla | | 31 | Mostly Harmless Alliance | | 30 | Orange Defense Network | | 29 | Fark | | 28 | The Order Of Light | | 26 | Viridian Entente | | 25 | Green Protection Agency | | 24 | FOK | | 24 | Ragnarok | | 24 | Poison Clan | | 23 | Umbrella | | 22 | Echelon | | 19 | World Task Force | | 18 | United Purple Nations | | 17 | Greenland Republic | | 17 | Old Guard | | 16 | NATO | | 16 | Vanguard | | 14 | LoSS | | 13 | Invicta | | 12 | RnR | | 11 | Global Democratic Alliance | | 11 | Fellowship Of Elite Allied Republics | | 11 | Blackwater | | 11 | Nueva Vida | | 11 | The Templar Knights | | 11 | Grand Global Alliance | | 11 | Alpha Omega | | 11 | Zenith | | 11 | The Dark Evolution | | 10 | The Democratic Order | | 10 | The Dark Templar | | 10 | The Foreign Division | | 10 | Molon Labe | | 10 | The Order Of Righteous Nations | | 10 | Mushroom Kingdom | | 9 | New Polar Order | | 9 | North Atlantic Defense Coalition | | 9 | R.o.c.k. | | 9 | Monos Archein | | 8 | The Legion | | 8 | The International | | 8 | UberCon | | 8 | Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations | | 7 | Olympus | | 7 | OTF Alliance | | 7 | Random Insanity Alliance | | 7 | Majestic Order Of Orange Nations | | 7 | Nusantara Elite Warriors | | 7 | Global Order Of Darkness | | 6 | The Brigade | | 6 | Argent | | 6 | We Are Perth Army | | 6 | The House Of Lords | | 6 | M*A*S*H | | 5 | The Centurion Brotherhood | | 5 | Confederation Of Organized Nations | | 5 | Carpe Diem | | 5 | Rubber Ducky Division | | 5 | SSSW18 | | 5 | Genesis | | 5 | Bushido | | 5 | Christian Coalition Of Countries | | 5 | The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons | | 4 | Wolfpack | | 4 | The German Empire | | 4 | FCC | | 4 | United Commonwealth Of Nations | | 4 | Boards Alliance Of Protectorate States | | 4 | Knights Of Cydonia | | 4 | The Ravyns | | 3 | Scotland Forever | | 3 | The Immortals | | 3 | IFOK | | 3 | The Aquatic Brotherhood | | 3 | Knights Of Ni! | | 3 | Veritas Aequitas | | 3 | OMFG | | 3 | AGW Overlords | | 3 | FoA | | 2 | Finnish Cooperation Organization | | 2 | Aurora Borealis | | 2 | Global United Nations | | 2 | Republic Of Allied Defenses | | 2 | League Of Extraordinary Nations | | 2 | Orion | | 2 | /A\/A\ | | 2 | Athens | | 2 | United Sovereign Nations | | 2 | Alliance Of International Defence | | 2 | NOVA | | 2 | 1 Touch Football | | 2 | DOOM | | 2 | The Sasori Initiative | | 2 | Siberian Tiger Alliance | | 2 | California | | 2 | Iunctus | | 1 | Aquitaine | | 1 | IRAN | | 1 | Atlantic Empire | | 1 | FnKa | | 1 | Soldier | | 1 | Seaworthy Liberian Cardboard Boxes | | 1 | Tempest | | 1 | Ascended Republic Of Elite States | | 1 | Armed Coalition Of Valor | | 1 | Deck Of International Card Experts | | 1 | Global Republic Of Armed Nations | | 1 | Cronus | | 1 | Coalition Of Independent Nations | | 1 | UMC | | 1 | =Western Empire= | | 1 | TDSM8 | | 1 | Nebula-x | | 1 | Enigma | | 1 | Aquatic Coalition Front | | 1 | United Foundation | | 1 | Green Old Party | | 1 | United Blue Directorate | +--------+----------------------------------------+ 126 rows in set (1 min 23.63 sec) Edit: I've been gathering this data for a while, but haven't really done anything with it. I guess I could spawn a new thread for stats with a nation-level fidelity. Edited August 19, 2009 by Unspeakable Evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Hmm, from 8 top 5% nations to 21, not bad at all. I think it's mainly from our relative gain in strength by not being heavily engaged in the war (no offense GDA or NADC ), but maybe from jacking some strong nations from Fark and USN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushtania Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) CITADEL ARE RUINING THE GAME They are so mean!!! But seriously...this isn't exactly a dog-bites-man situation here. Also those top nations are also in alliances that have been around quite a while. Edited August 19, 2009 by Crushtania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylar Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 could we get a update UE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Expects Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) Aye an update would be super please. Edited September 5, 2009 by Nobody Expects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hmm, reading the OP reminded me I was due for a TOP 10 a week or two ago. I'll try and do that before I start class on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixoux Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hmm, reading the OP reminded me I was due for a TOP 10 a week or two ago. I'll try and do that before I start class on Tuesday. Haha awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'm planning to update on the 14th (one month after the 1.0; unless UE decides to jump in with his massive computing power or people demand an update within the next week). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja Colt Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Anyone else see that Polaris has more nukes than TOP now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpreb Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Anyone else see that Polaris has more nukes than TOP now? Congratulations on the milestone Edited September 8, 2009 by alpreb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendoftheSkies Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Did you include TT along with SF? Not that it would add all that much to their stats (a few nations and Wonders here and there), but for all intents and purposes we would be certain to fight together in a large-scale conflict. We're all MDoAP'd with all of them so we're effectively in the same bloc. Edited September 8, 2009 by Legend of the Skies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyber Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Anyone else see that Polaris has more nukes than TOP now? Yah, you guys have been doing great I must say. Congrats Polaris. I have a feeling we aren't going to catch your rapid nuke build up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles the Great Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'm impressed that Kronos has over 30% of it's membership in the Top 5% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 But seriously...this isn't exactly a dog-bites-man situation here. Also those top nations are also in alliances that have been around quite a while. Not only that, but GPA and NpO are the only alliances in the top 10 that have lost a war since I joined (the day after the UJW ended). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhysicsJunky Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 For anyone who wants to play the home game, here are the counts for every alliance with a Top 5% nation yesterday.5% of the game is about 1,397 nations. In the 19,213 nations of the alliances with >20 members I recorded yesterday, 1,299 of the top 5% nations are accounted for (93.0%). OBR must have had <20 members, because they aren't recorded (they have 10-11 Top 5% members). I was curious how easy it would be for you to track the percentage of 5% nations located in alliances with an average NS on the order of say half the 5% tidemark or higher (and members > 20 or some other constraint leaving a large enough sample group) over time. Or not necessarily half but some fraction that's of sizable order and is likely to give interesting data. I'm curious to see how the concentration on large nations changes, notably any pre-war clumping or post-war declumping effects. I imagine you understand what I'm getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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