Style #386 Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Considering I still have this scar in my back from a certain action taken by ODN a couple of months ago, you'll have to understand why I won't wish ODN well.Good luck MCXA. You're likely better off for this cancellation. Forgive me, I forgot that IRON is morally superior. Those that desire to wish the Network ill can do so via my PM box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Forgive me, I forgot that IRON is morally superior. Those that desire to wish the Network ill can do so via my PM box. Ouch, now that is a good reposte. Seems the age of Arsenal is one in which ODN is done with getting kicked around without kicking back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Forgive me, I forgot that IRON is morally superior. Those that desire to wish the Network ill can do so via my PM box. I usually dont say this but this is an epic post. IRON, you have no room to talk. Many may consider this bold but I give my stamp of approval to the new Arsenal ODN. Also, at TheAut, compare what ODN has done to what Slayer has done and realize that that comparison just doesn't fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 IRON as an ally was a mistake, a mistake of previous administrations and not of any administration i have served in. Its this inability of you to distinguish between the clear difference in outlook between say Walkerninja and his clique and the govt has held sway since his departure (Haflinger: the walker era ended when he departed) that leads to you drawing such conclusions. I am a partisan for Karma and i make no bones about that fact, and i have enough motive for such an outlook based on my experiences in CN since 2006. Walkerninja clique? Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Sponge Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 This I will personally agree with. If not for your former alliance to IRON ODN would be dead. Can't really say Bob would be any worse off. This is entirely untrue. Forgive me, I forgot that IRON is morally superior. Those that desire to wish the Network ill can do so via my PM box. This is what we in the Llamatopia call "served". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoiL Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) Ouch, now that is a good reposte. Seems the age of Arsenal is one in which ODN is done with getting kicked around without kicking back. I usually dont say this but this is an epic post. IRON, you have no room to talk.Many may consider this bold but I give my stamp of approval to the new Arsenal ODN. Also, at TheAut, compare what ODN has done to what Slayer has done and realize that that comparison just doesn't fly. This is entirely untrue.This is what we in the Llamatopia call "served". Arsenal taking my credit Edited July 13, 2009 by SpoiL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Arsenal taking my credit Great minds think alike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joracy Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Great minds think alike? I think you just insulted both of them? D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Walz Pants Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 This is entirely untrue. Which part? I seem to recall VE bloodlusting over ODN a mere month or two prior to Bob's current conflict. IRON was there for them then. Or did that potential war get in the way of your greater conquest, ES? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoiL Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I think you just insulted both of them? D: Arsenal? With the mind of a Sith? ODN is in for a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre27 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 As alliances continue to develop, either for good or bad, the treaties alliances hold should reflect the true relations between alliances. When two alliances develop in different directions, at some point the treaty they hold no longer reflects their relationship and is best severed. Good luck to both ODN and MCXA, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Sponge Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Which part? I seem to recall VE bloodlusting over ODN a mere month or two prior to Bob's current conflict. IRON was there for them then. Or did that potential war get in the way of your greater conquest, ES? lol VE? ODN would have kicked their teeth in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King MyLife Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Good luck to both parties... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) Arsenal taking my credit It was the direct evidence that Arsenal provided so seemlessly into his very short and simple statement. It just flowed well, but yes you did say something similiar first. Not to mention it was one alliance leader to another. Edited July 13, 2009 by HeinousOne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime minister Johns Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 An interesting decision, Only time will tell where this leads. But any how... o/ MXCA o/ ODN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twizzler Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Which part? I seem to recall VE bloodlusting over ODN a mere month or two prior to Bob's current conflict. IRON was there for them then. Or did that potential war get in the way of your greater conquest, ES? Nothing against VE, but I seriously doubt that ODN would have disbanded if IRON had not "saved us from the ebils". Being at war =/= disbandment. Also, puppet master, you owe me tech. After that, you can go back to your mindless ODN trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) My criticism of the ODN dropping IRON dates back to a conversation I've had with Arsenal a couple of months ago. I don't know if he recalls: 01[19:11] <TheAUT[sldr]> Considering IRON is going one way and FOK another.01[19:11] <TheAUT[sldr]> Orange for the first time is going to be pretty split over the matter. [19:12] <Arsenal[ODN]> So it would seem, eh? 01[19:12] <TheAUT[sldr]> Definitely. FOK moved away from NPO. [19:12] <Arsenal[ODN]> Normally we've been pretty united. 01[19:12] <TheAUT[sldr]> IRON is with NPO. 01[19:12] <TheAUT[sldr]> I don't think it'll be orange on orange. 01[19:12] <TheAUT[sldr]> But certainly disagreements there. [19:12] <Arsenal[ODN]> Aye. [19:13] <Arsenal[ODN]> We're pretty close to IRON, obviously. 01[19:13] <TheAUT[sldr]> Yeah. 01[19:13] <TheAUT[sldr]> That dates back. [19:13] <Arsenal[ODN]> But there are those on the other side that we like as well. [19:13] <Arsenal[ODN]> Indeed. 01[19:13] <TheAUT[sldr]> It's a blood pact. [19:13] <Arsenal[ODN]> Soldier is part of that TPF conglomerated thing, right? [19:13] <Arsenal[ODN]> Aye, it is. Which is why I was a bit struck by the ODN saying allying IRON was a mistake. And before you guys get angry with me for releasing these logs, Arsenal and I are friends. I'd just like an explanation as it seems I keep hearing so many different things and none of it makes sense. Why be close to an alliance that you never liked? Fear? Waiting for the right moment to make a move? Anyways, Arsenal also agreed that you have to pick allies and die with them. Time will tell, maybe there's change or maybe history will repeat. Well then this thread has seriously gone off track for a cancellation threat between the MCXA and ODN. So I'll be going. Edited July 13, 2009 by The AUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoiL Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) My criticism of the ODN dropping IRON dates back to a conversation I've had with Arsenal a couple of months ago. I don't know if he recalls:Which is why I was a bit struck by the ODN saying allying IRON was a mistake. And before you guys get angry with me for releasing these logs, Arsenal and I are friends. I'd just like an explanation as it seems I keep hearing so many different things and none of it makes sense. Allying IRON wasn't the mistake, choosing IRON over NpO was. That was predominantly WalkerNinja's baby. Edited July 13, 2009 by SpoiL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Congratulations ODN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yates Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I, for one, continue to be a fan of MCXA. We've seen quite a few people come and go between our alliances and I think those members can be the catalyst for a renewed relationship in the future if that's what is meant to be. I wish the best of luck to the MCXA and have a feeling we'll be talking again in the not too distant future. o7 Yates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubermeir Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Best of luck MCXA O/ ODN Lol trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Good luck ODN. o/ MCXA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Congratulations ODN. We don't need this kind of comment, unless of course you are congratulating us on our new foreign policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shilo Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Allying IRON wasn't the mistake, choosing IRON over NpO was. That was predominantly WalkerNinja's baby. The big difference between those two was that Polaris was cancelled without democratic participation, and IRON was cancelled based on the support of the majority at that time. One can always argue whether this was right or not, at least a treaty was signed by the majority of the GA, and also suspended by the majority of the GA. If anything, this should be the precedent on how such decisions must be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Forgive me, I forgot that IRON is morally superior. Those that desire to wish the Network ill can do so via my PM box. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't IRON still defend NPO, thus following the treaty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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