Yates

not enough Miley, imho.

Why muck about in peace when there are spoils of war to be had?? ODN is the most fun I've had on Planet Bob.

Karma - easy. Part of what made Karma great was the lead up and how the battle lines were drawn.

I'm but a simple carpenter. Like Jesus. But less hippy.

My concern is that David Banner likely had access to the CAD drawings of our secret OJ1-Orbital Battle Station. If he did, he could potentially advertise the one weakness in our defense system and unravel our entire Network.

Well... konk just declared on the 4th. The other two declared on the 31st. So that's a recent development.

That's a fair point. This is a better example of Dorado with a more evenly matched opponent: http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=713546 Granted Dorado started with significantly more infra but still. This is closer to a 50:50 fight.

It's funny you did that Shinra. I started doing some fact checking myself and was about to respond to this: Dear Jekalle, Please let me know if your current sparring partner is not sufficient. I will plead with my war lords to allow me to sell down to your level so perhaps we can meet in combat. I am aware that they have other plans for me but since I'm deleting after the war anyway, perhaps this is my moment to buck the establishment? PM is boring and I want to dance. Your Friend, Yates

Yeah. I feel like a line may have been crossed. [Yates steps away from the thread with his line officers]

Obviously. I'm working out a whole boy band dance routine with the rest of my line officers. Needless to say, it will be HOT! [Get it! Because we are FIREmen! And fire is HOT! Ohhhh the puns...]

I like you.

BRB - going to have a "friend" create a nation, join my opponent's alliance, start a war, surrender, then offer my "friend's" fake nation surrender up as propaganda fodder.

Who?

When you guys called this a "*joint* announcement," I was expecting something much different. Possibly with more Snoop Dogg.

[quote name='President Gunn' timestamp='1358830150' post='3082974'] [center]Did someone call for... [b]Hot Cops?[/b][/center] [/quote] What's with the homoerotic post, man? Granted, I'm all for it, obviously. It just seemed weird and out of place. Hey, can the next one be hot firemen? I'm a fireman. I can show you my [i]hose[/i]. [Get it!! By "hose" I mean "unit!"]

[quote name='ComeAndSee' timestamp='1358864780' post='3083659'] NEO Hegemony is on the return. [/quote] Oooo! That sounds cool! What's that?!

Guise. Serious question thyme. Why are there only 21 alliances declared on us right now? I am dissapoint.

While I appreciate the shout-out, all credit really goes to Salka for giving them what they wanted - not what they [i]asked[/i] for!

[quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1303402540' post='2695586']I personally had thought you had moved beyond the sheeple stage but it looks like I might be wrong.[/quote] Speaking of "sheeple," that's a mighty fine avatar you have there. Lulz aside, there was a better way for CoJ to handle the situation. You know it. I know it. Let's move on.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1303343307' post='2694965']You look at a guy like Yates... try to call out Meth for "declaring war" on those nations--like there's some mini-war inside the war that ODN DECLARED--and you wonder if he lives on a ventilator due to an inability to remember to breathe. I don't see any other way.[/quote] Awesome reading comprehension abilities, Schatt. Seriously. My Meth posts had [i]nothing[/i] to do with illustrating how [b]Methrage had no reason to act smug[/b] and was *like* *totally* about how he's a big meanie waging war on the poor defenseless nations of the ODN! And there is *like* *totally* no sarcasm in this thread whatsoever... Continue to fail. Soldier on.

[quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' timestamp='1303329059' post='2694806']I'd ask whichever member of my alliance was aiding someone at war to cease since that's not kosher. I certainly wouldn't get all upset and insulted about it.[/quote] We have adopted a similar philosophy. We haven't even approached anyone about aiding enemies yet, though that always remains an option I suppose... As you can see below, the ODN hasn't attacked anyone Methrage has been tech dealing with. Again, we could always make a legitimate claim that they are aiding our enemies etc, but the reality is that we don't make a habit of beating up on nations for trivial reasons and sucking the fun out of the game. [URL=http://img706.imageshack.us/i/methrageaid.png/][IMG]http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8739/methrageaid.th.png[/IMG][/URL] In this particular case, Methrage has been a fun opponent for our fledgling nations. If we decided to attack everyone aiding him [he has 10 slots!] he wouldn't be able to afford to maintain his nation. Where's the fun in that?

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1303271813' post='2694260'] It was guys who declared war on me and you haven't mentioned any the larger ones who have had declare on me as well. ... So you thought you would have easy fight finishing me off since I had already been nuked down to this size, to bad you didn't take into consideration that sending 19 day old nations at me won't win you the war.[/quote] See, it's statements like these that give me pause and question the veracity of your statements. [i]Clearly[/i] illustrated in the screen caps above are the three nations [b]you declared on[/b] - inclusive of the 19 day old nation. Your willingness to go to ZI for your cause is honorable. I just don't understand why you feel the need to sully that honor with public half-truths in some poorly conceived attempt to... what? Somehow spin the difficulty brand new nations face completing the ZI process on established nations that have been crushed to rubble into a victory over the ODN? Let's look at the facts: Since 2/20 you have declared 13 times on 0 nuclear capable nations and 0 nations with > NS. Since 2/20 you have been declared on 13 times by [b]1[/b] nuclear capable nation and [b]1[/b] nation with > NS - that nation being Vitsen's on 4/18. [URL=http://img215.imageshack.us/i/methragewars.png][IMG]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2965/methragewars.th.png[/IMG][/URL] To me this illustrates a few points: 1. You avoid anything that might closely resemble a fair fight. This is understandable but flies in the face of your spurious attempt at bravado. 2. Our smaller nations are doing a commendable job of keeping your slots filled and your nation out of Peace Mode while still causing damage. 3. You have to give these smaller nations a lot of credit; they are willing to take on a nuclear capable nation with all those wonders and shrug off their disadvantage in service to our Network. In regards to your allegation that you have somehow fought us to a "stalemate?" On 3/29 your NS was 6,716. Then from 4/1-4/4 3 Non-Nuclear ODN Nations declared on you and reduced you to 2,123 by 4/9. You received an infusion of cash and re-bought to get up to 6,166 on 4/18. Then Vitsen declared that night and you have quickly fallen to 3,648 as of this morning. Keeping your nation below 10k NS means we will have an easy time sending our smaller nations enough aid to rebuild in a single aid package. In fact, I made enough in abandoned equipment from a single GA last night to cover the costs of rebuilding one of those nations. [URL=http://img860.imageshack.us/i/methragechart.png/][IMG]http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/8977/methragechart.th.png[/IMG][/URL] [url="http://img543.imageshack.us/f/methrage3.png/"][size="1"]In case the genesis of this chart is in doubt.[/size][/url] The humor of this situation is that you could not afford this war [$1.25M/10 days on wonder bill alone] without aid and none of your aid partners have been declared upon. The weightiest claim made by Schatt was that we are big bullies that use tech dealing with our enemies as a reason to declare yet you see how fervidly we pursue that policy. Perhaps we should make some exceptions and see how long it takes you to get to ZI? In summary, our small nations are using your nation as a sort of field training/live fire exercise. You can choose to take the stance that this somehow makes you a martyr and try to keep spinning your efforts in this light. The reality is, however, that any seasoned player can see the truth of this situation is that you have been knocked down and we are simply not allowing you to get back up. You think the fact that you aren't dead and buried somehow puts you in a stalemate position? I think you need to get back up on your feet before you can make such claims. But that's just my perspective. In the mean time, thanks for the training opportunity. The lessons and possibly even mistakes made by our young nations now will make them that much better when we need them to face a real opponent in the future. They will also learn invaluable lessons about how rebuilding works in our Network and form bonds of camaraderie that you simply can't fabricate in other training situations.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1303180835' post='2693068'] When Os approached me to see if I wanted to surrender, I told him I see no need for me to surrender, as I'm doing quite well and a stalemate would be more accurate to describe our war since no matter how many I take down, there are more ODN nations waiting for their turn to fight me next.[/quote] Yes, you appear to be quite the war hero... [URL=http://img691.imageshack.us/i/methrage2.png/][IMG]http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3607/methrage2.th.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img19.imageshack.us/i/methrage1.png/][IMG]http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7889/methrage1.th.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img856.imageshack.us/i/kilerc.png/][IMG]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3329/kilerc.th.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img251.imageshack.us/i/insula.png/][IMG]http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8761/insula.th.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img263.imageshack.us/i/12thman.png/][IMG]http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1776/12thman.th.png[/IMG][/URL] It is my hope to be fighting 19 day old nations when I reach your age as well.

[quote name='R3nowned' timestamp='1292996296' post='2549342'] my slots are open sir [/quote] /Michael Scott.

[quote name='King Louis the II' timestamp='1282963668' post='2433413'] Post war interview with NSO gov. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXAfeKiB5MA[/media] [/quote] I forgot how funny the original of that was. You just raised the bar two notches. Well played.