Nintenderek Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 You could say that NAAC reformed too, well kinda for two reasonsOne they took over NpO Almighty Grub was a NAAC'er and now NpPo's have faught 2 wars against each other. and two Greenland Republic is their spiritual succesor, same colour, same members, same wars against NPO. Funny thing is (and I got this from the CN wiki, I wasn't actually there) NAAC was actually called Greenland Republic before it changed it's name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Alexander Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) TBH I think these alliances that disbanded did not fight hard enough for their right as an alliance and community to exists hard enough. No one can force you to disband FAN is testament to that. Edit: So no I think the dead should not rise. Edited May 7, 2009 by Shamshir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian LaCroix Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 If the former members of said alliance want to, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEraser Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Yeah , when did \m/ reform? i think it chaned its name to Ragnorok (i'm kidding XD) i don't really have too much of a problem with reforming alliances as long as the people are dedicated to bringing it back up, Otherwise its a disservice to the Legacy of the AA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatherum Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) ...and \m/. Gatherum sighed. Ah, if only this were true. They were my most hated enemy back in the day...treat with or war with them again, I would relish the day... Any others? Of course, it doesn't look like \m/ and TF! were serious, or those just didn't work out. Actually, I think TF! is serious. It'll be interesting to witness a Digiterra with them and TPF on it at once. I bet NAAC would grow pretty quickly. Indeed it would...such is the only alliance I would quicker see back on Digiterra than \m/... Gatherum sighed again, in memory of his brief time in Arctica. Edited May 7, 2009 by Gatherum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 To be fair, Nordreich did not disband. Martens resigned and those who didn't follow him were unjustly branded as extremists and attacked. It was a calculated move that left a lot of lingering ill-will, so much so that yes, it really did take this long for the various personalities involved to own up to their respective mistakes and move on. To answer the OP more directly: "Yes." One of the reasons this current war is being fought is to ensure that players aren't run from the game again. Attacking a reformed alliance because you didn't like the original goes against the very spirit of what those in Karma have been saying. And yes, I'm fully aware of the irony of that statement (coming from a leader of Nordreich) in light of the ICP Reformation War. But we either live and learn or we atrophy. We can carry our grudges around, wearing them like some twisted badge of honor, or we can discard them. I choose not to carry grudges, because all that does is give the other person power over me. Also, there are genuine communities (not simply online alliances) involved. Those of us who come from the NoR "lineage" have had our own forums for some time now. We have remained in pretty much constant contact with one another. After all this time, I have come to genuinely know and like the people involved, not merely their online personae. And, for many of us, the feeling with regard to CN is that we either play together or not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Greenland Republic is their spiritual succesor, same colour, same members, same wars against NPO. GR couldn't possibly be a successor to NAAC. We're actually winning a war against NPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 TBH I think these alliances that disbanded did not fight hard enough for their right as an alliance and community to exists hard enough. No one can force you to disband FAN is testament to that. Edit: So no I think the dead should not rise. Sometimes it gets tiring to put the effort into holding an alliance together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted May 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 It's all fun and games until Flying Tigers reform I fear for you if they reform. They caused the demise of GOON's 1.0. The responses here are very interesting. Most people think it's okay as long as it's someone from the original alliance reforming it. I remember a thread several months after the NAAC disbanded when a guy tried to reform NAAC. Not only was he attacked anyway by NPO, but most people were just saying, "Let the dead rest in peace," or, "Don't do it. If you do it wrong, it will ruin their legacy." I eagerly await NAAC's reformation. Someone do it. I never was a part of them, but I remember they were a formidable fighting force. I believe Moldavi said something like, "At least NAAC knew how to properly be the enemy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I eagerly await NAAC's reformation. Someone do it. I never was a part of them, but I remember they were a formidable fighting force. I believe Moldavi said something like, "At least NAAC knew how to properly be the enemy." I know a lot of the originals have no desire to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sometimes it gets tiring to put the effort into holding an alliance together. This. And sometimes it is better to disband than to continue to exist as a shadow/refutation/parody of yourself. Or as a puppet. But if that's why an alliance disbanded, then when it becomes possible for them to exist again, if they want to, then more power to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted May 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I know a lot of the originals have no desire to do so. I've heard that too. But I wonder, if you only get a couple who want to set it all up, will these others come back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrie Melodies Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 \m/ has been here all along. The age old question is "How do you pronounce \m/?" I shall now divulge the secret to the question, \m/ is pronounced......................../drum roll....................RAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted May 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 \m/ has been here all along.The age old question is "How do you pronounce \m/?" I shall now divulge the secret to the question, \m/ is pronounced......................../drum roll....................RAD Must be like how "ghoti" is pronounced "fish", eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newhotness Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) This is all !@#$%^&*. Everyone here is saying "yeah we have no problem with people reforming. whats the big deal?" when you know thats not true. If \m/ came back people would be getting all bent out of shape and start getting ready to go to war to destroy the evil \m/ menace. Same with Gen[m]ay or the real GOONs, not this GOONs from the moon BS. And you cant say this isnt true because if it werent true, Bilrow wouldnt have been in #RAD lurking waiting for some of the former \m/embers to give him a reason to attack us. \m/ has been here all along.The age old question is "How do you pronounce \m/?" I shall now divulge the secret to the question, \m/ is pronounced......................../drum roll....................RAD Lol. nice Edited May 7, 2009 by Newhotness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) I'm fine with any alliance reforming other than alliances I don't like. Edited May 7, 2009 by Sal Paradise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Fool Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Oh holy crap, do I have to make a post correcting this once a week?NAAC wasn't forced to disband! Not in any way shape or form! Once they disbanded I made sure they stayed that way, and Polar to this very day still maintains the watch. I wonder if Grub would kill an NAAC zombie....Brb reforming NAAC to find out. I predict that GR and NpO will merge to form the New Order of Arctic Countries. Not really. You know there was a rumor like that last summer which some incredibly stupid believed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Alexander Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sometimes it gets tiring to put the effort into holding an alliance together. Hmm i just think and recreations will not be able to emulate past alliances and once an alliance disbands it can't really come back. Especially some of the alliances suggested as too much time has passes. (that should allow me to make an exception for VE ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johjima Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 This is all !@#$%^&*. Everyone here is saying "yeah we have no problem with people reforming. whats the big deal?" when you know thats not true. If \m/ came back people would be getting all bent out of shape and start getting ready to go to war to destroy the evil \m/ menace. Same with Gen[m]ay or the real GOONs, not this GOONs from the moon BS. And you cant say this isnt true because if it werent true, Bilrow wouldnt have been in #RAD lurking waiting for some of the former \m/embers to give him a reason to attack us. U[m]brella did it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptblck Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Ragnarok= \m/ hell it was formed by ex-\m/ about a week after there disbandment Umbrella= Gen[m]ay just a little more tight knit MK= LUE everyone knows it GOONS and NAAC spread out everywhere though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johjima Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Ragnarok= \m/ hell it was formed by ex-\m/ about a week after there disbandmentUmbrella= Gen[m]ay just a little more tight knit, plus they are more (publicly)mature, 250% more organized, 350% tougher, and they have leaders, MK= LUE everyone knows it GOONS and NAAC spread out everywhere though I fixed one for you, in bold, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leprecon Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) TBH I think these alliances that disbanded did not fight hard enough for their right as an alliance and community to exists hard enough. No one can force you to disband FAN is testament to that. Edit: So no I think the dead should not rise. Ok, if you want to look at it in that way, the VE is currently fighting on a side against those that once killed it, wheres FAN is only now recovering from peace mode. (btw, its really fun bilrow is in NPO) No, we did not fight the glorious fight (aka peace mode, or FAN mode) but there are very few scenarios in which I could imagine the VE more succesfull than it is now. We had the following choices; 1: Move from green, alter our identity, and live in shame. 2: Fan style eternal war 3: Disband/undisband Having the VE as a sanctioned alliance now is pure win. Edited May 7, 2009 by leprecon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 And why the hell wouldn't it be ok? Most of these alliances had deep roots and close-knit communities."VE: The Sequel" seems to be doing alright. Becuase they disbanded for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles the Great Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I'd be pretty pissed if someone reformed Atlantis who wasn't an original founder or a major influence and ex-gov. member - but that's just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles the Great Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Ragnarok= \m/ hell it was formed by ex-\m/ about a week after there disbandmentUmbrella= Gen[m]ay just a little more tight knit MK= LUE everyone knows it GOONS and NAAC spread out everywhere though Pretty sure GR = NAAC + Atlantis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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