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You will never hear the end of this mistake. Without a spine you are lying on the floor, at least you all lie together. We are called Karma because we will give what is coming to you. You will get what you have given.

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I think this is my third post in this thread but that is how genuinely disgusted I am with all of you. You all propped yourself up on Pacifica's back all these years and this is how you thank them? I will take great pleasure in seeing each of you fall.

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Blah blah blah. Please. If we fought w/the NPO and pwned you all you would've turned into the Vox P: a bunch of peace mode losers whining about how everyone is NPO's pawn, and crying about how unfair your smackdown was.

Ya! This was a much better option. Who wants to be called curb stompers.

You don't lose anything, and you abandon an ally breaking a long standing treaty.

Stop lying to yourselves, this is pathetic to the point your enemies are calling you on it.

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Well your actions today haven't done much to dispell this belief.

You really think ODN had a clue it was going to turn out like this?

For the first time since GW3 we broke our chains to the Hegemony and sided with the "Underdog."

We're probably not anywhere near as disappointed as the rest of Karma, but we're just as disgusted given the hypocrisy IRON displayed towards us.

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So now it isn't honorable, why is that?

In reality these decisions were made before the group of DoW's for reasons other than the war itself. This has nothing to do with anyone being afraid to lose infrastructure and everything to do with the way NPO acted in regards to their handling of their portion of the war and planning up to it. You all just saw ODN tell everyone they would not be honoring their treaties to anyone connected to our side and you all greeted this with hailing. Why, not because you really agreed with anything the ODN did, but simply because it suited your own side and you liked to see NPO lose more support. Get off your !@#$@#$ high horses this is a !@#$@#$ game and take your victory. I am sicked by the amount of vehemence and the overt double standard those resorting to out right slander of a group of sovereign alliances choosing to cancel a treaty have displayed. Those of you who have jumped ship on the NPO and the rest of us in the past, namely VE, our reasons are no different than your own, you all have absolutely no right to judge us or choose what our own intentions are for yourself you all were not in the calls, you all were not in the chats.

The ODN had to pick a side. We had treaties in both sides, regardless of anything the ODN had to cancel treaties. We had days of discussions on which side to support. We had votes, I personally supported standing by our IRON brothers, until GOONS came along.

While the ODN was, under WalkerNinja, trying to approach the Hegemony, NPO would not have us in any way. For a year we tried, and failed. Even so, some of us (myself included) hoped that one day the ODN would be consider as equals in a relationship that did not move forward.

We had no ties to NPO, we did not chose to cancel our treaties because IRON was getting hit by dozens of alliances. We decided to follow the path we did because we saw our treaties in the Karma side having more meaning. Treaties between equals, and friends. Not between a ruler and meatshields.

And the fact that we did it before it all came down. And let me tell you, we did not know it would be this much of $@! whooping, the ODN is not always the first to find out about stuff... coughGOONScough

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Interesting move. You guys would probably have been better off going down with Pacifica because I get the feeling from reading this thread that this decision is going to come back to haunt you.

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The nice thing about Karma

NPO who has a history of betraying their allies gets betrayed in their hour of need.

But on the flipside all these lap-dogs aren't exactly absolved of their past through a simple cowardly act.

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