Brotherington Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 GATO shouldn't have been attacked. Players shouldn't ever be arbitrarily sentenced to eternal targetting without a reason. This pathetic attempt to stem the tide of public oppinion could not be more transparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMMELHSQ Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 This is really nice news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Congrats to GATO and SF. Let's see if FAN gets white peace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Nice work Polaris and congrats to GATO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikz Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Nice work Polaris and congrats to GATO. Have you had your coffee yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Congrats GATO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrophis Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Looks like someone is trying to clean up their bad PR image. And yes, I emphasized trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Too little, too late. It seems like you've made this announcement not because it is the right thing to do (the lack of apologies backs this up - you were wrong to do what you did, admit it) but because it was the bare minimum you could do just to stop the flow of treaty cancellations - cancellations which were threatening the NPO-run hegemonic dominance over Digiterra. The fact that FAN have not been freed as a part of this 'new honourable NPO' is very revealing and backs up the thought that you're only doing this for your own good and no-one else's. My guess is that you're scrabbling around for things to make you look good to stop the trend of other, more morally sound alliances, drifting away from you and weakening your position. Anything to stay as #1, right? It's kinda see-through actually. Congratulations to those regaining their freedom today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernzi Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) It was a pleasure to do my small part in the economic side of things. o/ GATO Edit:- Too little, too late. It seems like you've made this announcement not because it is the right thing to do (the lack of apologies backs this up - you were wrong to do what you did, admit it) but because it was the bare minimum you could do just to stop the flow of treaty cancellations - cancellations which were threatening the NPO-run hegemonic dominance over Digiterra. The fact that FAN have not been freed as a part of this 'new honourable NPO' is very revealing and backs up the thought that you're only doing this for your own good and no-one else's. My guess is that you're scrabbling around for things to make you look good to stop the trend of other, more morally sound alliances, drifting away from you and weakening your position. Anything to stay as #1, right? It's kinda see-through actually.Congratulations to those regaining their freedom today. I doubt we'll apologise, and I personally don't believe we need to. Have you read any of the posts from GATOans in this thread? FAN have not been freed as they continue to be hostile to us. Both on these forums and in their spy attempts and tech scams. Why would we let people so belligerent to us, free? Also I think your post was motivated at your annoyance that you'll have to edit that sig Edited April 15, 2009 by kernzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proxian Empire Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 This took much too long to be placed in action. There can be no praise for a malicious organisation such as the NPO for undoing immoral practices that they simply shouldn't have done in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I find it amazing that some people cannot offer a simple "good job" to the NPO as a result of this action. Crowd: "Release GATO, you evil purveyors of world-wide hegemony!" NPO: "Okay, we'll release them (and a few other groups/people of note)." Crowd: "Haha! You caved! And no apology? What about this other alliance? You're just trying to save your skin!" Okay, sure, push for more change, but celebrate the victories and applaud the positive changes as they occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Mayflies Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 It was a pleasure to do my small part in the economic side of things.o/ GATO I'm not sure the ironic sigs are really a good idea anymore.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Sponge Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Okay, sure, push for more change, but celebrate the victories and applaud the positive changes as they occur. Yeah I'll be sure to wildly cheer as people are thrown scraps from master's table. It won't be long now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolia Farvazov Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Freedom =) I told it was around the corner =) K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernzi Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'm not sure the ironic sigs are really a good idea anymore.. Even if the rest of NPO will, I won't cave in to your demands! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 While some of this (the GATO freedom in particular) has been a long time coming, there is really nothing to be disappointed about here. A great move by the NPO. Very well done indeed. o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurney Halleck Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Yeah I'll be sure to wildly cheer as people are thrown scraps from master's table.It won't be long now. Amusing. I do not believe a 'good job on that, NPO' suggests "wildly cheering" - rather, simple recognition of positive change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I doubt we'll apologise, and I personally don't believe we need to. Have you read any of the posts from GATOans in this thread?FAN have not been freed as they continue to be hostile to us. Both on these forums and in their spy attempts and tech scams. Why would we let people so belligerent to us, free? Also I think your post was motivated at your annoyance that you'll have to edit that sig I'm happy for GATO, but this is not about them, it's about the NPO and the obvious motivation behind this announcement. It is not sincere at all and there is no indication of a real change in your attitudes. The FAN argument has been done to death; they fight against you in the ways they can because they're at war (and have been for a ridiculous amount of time), they will not stop until they get white peace (understandable, given how the last NPO-FAN peace terms played out). I think that covers it, but if you want to discuss it more we can do so by PM or something because this isn't a FAN peace term thread. As for the sig, you might be right It's a conspiracy, you freed GATO just to annoy me, I knew it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezstar Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 While some of this (the GATO freedom in particular) has been a long time coming, there is really nothing to be disappointed about here. A great move by the NPO. Very well done indeed.o/ Agreed. What does it matter if they have ulterior motives? They just gave everyone exactly what they've wanted for ages... a free GATO and a policy that's against running rulers out of the Cyberverse. There's nothing to complain about here. Sometimes, I think that people see the name "NPO" attached to the post and say "HMM. How can I complain today?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) Agreed. What does it matter if they have ulterior motives? They just gave everyone exactly what they've wanted for ages... a free GATO and a policy that's against running rulers out of the Cyberverse. Giving freedom to one whilst still happily stomping down others does not make an alliance worth praising. It's a step, sure (a step with superfluous motives is still a step, I'll agree) but I'll reserve my hails until the actions of the alliance warrant them. Edited April 15, 2009 by Aimee Mann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles the Great Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'm glad to see this - but I'm curious where FAN falls in all of this (eternal war, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil uncle tom Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'm glad to see this - but I'm curious where FAN falls in all of this (eternal war, etc) Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Malone Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Agreed. What does it matter if they have ulterior motives? They just gave everyone exactly what they've wanted for ages... a free GATO and a policy that's against running rulers out of the Cyberverse.There's nothing to complain about here. Sometimes, I think that people see the name "NPO" attached to the post and say "HMM. How can I complain today?" I'm afraid I don't agree. The wording is very vague, and I'm sure it was intentionally so. "the Emperor reserves the right to extend those sentences to fit the crime;" What that says is that the Emperor can say "Heck with policy, I feel this crime deserves more than one round of wars... continue the wars until I say stop." IF NPO wanted to put the good foot completely forward, they would have left out that very contradictory statement in their policy changes. Else, why even have that section? While I can applaud the NPO for making these changes, one is left to wonder just WHY they're making the changes. If it was indeed a change of heart, they would have made the moves across the board. To use an extremely irrelevant metaphor: "You there, you're a bad man forcing people eat popcorn until they die. You're depleting the world's popcorn supply! Oh, and killing people too.""Meh, what you gonna do about it?" "I'll shake my fist menacingly at you and plot your doom." "Go for it." Months later... "Hmm... seems there's been reports of a resistance forming. I'll give them a few pieces of steak for now, but once they trust me... BACK TO THE POPCORN!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 About time. Nobody should be under terms for that period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariMassa Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Congratulations GATO! It was a pleasure working with you!! o/ Emperor Revenge o/ NPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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