Cairna Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 You opened yourself up to that obligatory Star Wars quote. If I see you on IRC I will shoot you with my x-wing nickname. You've been warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTTezla Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Wow - this was knocked off-topic in record time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) Change will provide it's own catalyst, whether you are or are not that catalyst, remains to be unseen. Here is a real question for you though, are your policies a change? or does the larger society simply make an exception to the methods FAN and Vox have established, when used by you simply because the larger society wishes to integrate you into its self. Catalyst = Someone or something that helps or encourages progress or change. Change cannot provide its own catalyst. It has been repeatedly said that we will be taking the third route: survival and advancement. If we are called into a war, we will honor our treaties. Why? Our treaties are worth more than the paper they are printed on, something many (many) alliances cannot say. We realized that by accepting everyone, we were inviting trouble so we changed our ways. We will evolve and change as the situation needs it. If something else "changes" because of us, it will be people who see the common sense in honor and integrity. (obligatory TCB ) The Dark Side only exists if you leave the light off, even the pledge of the Sith shows a desire of being complete, only with balance can you find your center We don't need a center. We only need the Dark Side. Edited March 20, 2009 by Sargun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Wolfe Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 If I see you on IRC I will shoot you with my x-wing nickname. You've been warned. TIE Fighters en route. Wow - this was knocked off-topic in record time. Or has it? I believe it is perfectly on topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbuck Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 My intention with this tread was to get the opinion of others, so I will step out of the topic, if any one wishes to continue the derailed discussion Pm me or look me up on IRC, I if I am on I will be in #NSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyseto123 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 It's probably from the lure of what Good Sir Ivan done in the pass and what we might expect in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOvfEnnay Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I don't necessarily think NSO will change CN, just the reaction that the current hegemony will take on in regards TO NSO. I think we all have our own opinions whether we're in a position of power or not on that reaction, so I'll leave it at that and let you all use your imaginations. For my answer would have been greeted with nothing but flame and troll from said current hegemony . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatherum Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I love this thread. It's the deepest, most philosophical thing I've read in a long time. A long time. Gatherum tipped his hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidus117 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Some food for thought: a body will remain at rest until an external force is applied to it. What will be the force that moves the community at large, sedentary and stable, towards something less monotonic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyriq Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I get the feeling that the New Sith Order is like a legalized, roided version of Vox Populi. They have a gimmicky though transcendent image, powerful personalities, and a stated agenda to do things "a different way". This to me means a non-hegemonic way, though granted it could be interpreted to mean something completely different. So based on this I'd say that the "change we can believe in" is a shift away from a uni-polar political system that will allow the Vox's of this world a place to build in peace and prosperity. This can either be achieved through hard or soft political power, but I don't reckon that the NPO will just back down without putting up a hell of a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Quezada Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 It is not the writing on the paper that gives the art value, it is the interpenetration of the art, not all art is good art. sorry but i loled on this one :lol: I hope the order brings some... beneficial changes to all of cybernations, whether they succeed or not its another matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melchior Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 It haven't changed much except for the addition of a new alliance. I hope that it's a good addition, and it'll bring about new thoughts and a little perspective on our current political climate. I'm hoping that Ivan is just settling in before he starts to orchestra the next big move after another. I don't think I've seen a topic go off-topic so fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Epic bad metaphors ITT. Seriously, I think NSO is going to be successful, but not as quickly as some have projected. Some (not all by any means, but some) joined on a whim, and members who do that rarely stick around. I foresee a small dropoff, then a slow and steady rise. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sernec Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 NSO change Bob? These arent the droids your looking for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 If you want a change, join NSO. Otherwise it's not our job to change anyone outside our wall's lifestyles. You guys created this life of stagnation, you live in it or man up and try something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbuck Posted March 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 If you want a change, join NSO. Otherwise it's not our job to change anyone outside our wall's lifestyles. You guys created this life of stagnation, you live in it or man up and try something new. Do you not owe your allies change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix von Agnu Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Do you not owe your allies change? Not if you pay them the exact amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbuck Posted March 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Not if you pay them the exact amount. What about a tip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcraftmazter Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Who cares. Atm this game is pretty boring, so any change would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Those who weren't capable of ruling the old world, now rule the new world. In the old world you had to fight for you position on the world stage. In the new world, you just have to be obedient to the right people for long enough to stake a claim. Unless they stake a claim on you. (GGA's position) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycurgus Rex Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Do not think the NSO is obligated to "change" the game....if that is your wish then lead the way yourselves. The sith shall lurk in the shadows.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mussolandia Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 It is evident that most of the players that joined NSO have trouble accepting the world as it is today. I know that is the case for me and it evident from my posting record in the last year or so, whenever I've been around. I read somewhere that someone said we are a sort of institutionalized version of Vox. No offense to my friends with the ski masks down there, but what I see and like about the alliance is that this is no coalition of old, tired players. There is a vibrant component of people who have not seen what I have seen. They are the true heart of the alliance, not the old guys at the top. There is a lot of energy and desire to grow. There is also the feeling that there is something special about this alliance that others do not seem to have. But it is naive to believe that a two week old alliance will be able to challenge established power structures. We need to adjust internally before any grandiose plans can be set in motion. It is going to take time and I hope we won't disappoint our own members and the community at large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModusOperandi Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Even a seemingly frozen river has current underneath, just because you can't see the change does not mean that it does not exist. Your Order is simply a rock in the river, changing the course of a small portion of the flow, not the over all current, or at least that is my take on the NSO. Friend; two years. Two years. That's how long the status quo has remained unchanged. A few adjustments to the game mechanics, a few much-needed additions in the form of navies and wonders, and frequent curbstomps. Aside from these, nothing much about this game has changed; this current that you speak of must be the slowest possible drift in the world. I applaud anyone who decides to ignore the status quo and do things their own way. o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrin Xies Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 "The TSO: Change you can believe in? Discuss." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Even a seemingly frozen river has current underneath, just because you can't see the change does not mean that it does not exist. Your Order is simply a rock in the river, changing the course of a small portion of the flow, not the over all current, or at least that is my take on the NSO. You should see us as an ice breaker. We can break the ice, if you guys so wish, but we cannot do it, without being properly used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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