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First of all, I'd like to take a second to announce the adding of a new bruh, a new warmonger, to our Pact. Please, ladies and gentlemen, TAKE A MINUTE TO WELCOOOOOOOOOOOOME, TWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISTED REEEEEEBEEEEEEEEEEEEL! We are confident he will be a great addition to our team. -- Secondly, in response to the Heptagon group, we'd like to issue a rebuttal; WUT WUT SON? U SRSLY WANNA STEP RIGHT NOW? YOU SRSLY WANNA STEP? SON I WILL KEEL YO. I WILL KEEL YOU SO BAD DAT YOU BE KEELED. I SWUR DAWG. I SWUR. Intelligent words, from intelligent men. If you feel the need to co-exist with us, we also have these words, which are quoted from that of a handsome (and thought provoking) man: Bring it. /s/ The AUT (The playa) astronaut jones (The ballaholic, straight outta Compton) Jofna (Genmawr!) MegaAros (Yea boi!) SpiderJerusalem (Buttercup, !@#$%^!) ...And as always...

Bring it. No seriously, go ahead. I'm waiting for the part where there's a followup.

JackTarr: Favorite and Least favorite part of being in Maine? JackTarr & Caesar: Where do you see FAN in a year? JackTarr & Caesar: Do you think that there is any alliance currently in CN at the moment that could defeat FAN in 1v1 warfare, or is FAN still today unrivaled in terms of military skill, by any alliance? JackTarr & Caesar: Most people talk about the upper tier being the only one that matters during warfare. You folks, however, possibly have the strongest bottom-middle tier in this game. Do you think there is an advantage to having much of your military might piled in the bottom and middle ranks in comparison to say, a Citadel alliance that has the reverse of this?

I'd enjoy it if we got new war wonders/military related things. Still, I like the concept. Allows a lot more on the topic of expanding what kinds of wonders will be allowed.

The Dynomite Pact plans on reverse-racing the Federated Allied Independence League, the loser being the first to give Sileath peace. [OOC: (Rv, go on IRC.)] The crimes attempted to be commited upon the nation of Rawmeng shall not go unpunished!

After speaking with the government of MHA, an official answer was given on behalf of their alliance. Word for word, Later, he was flown out to speak with another alliance who Sileath may have been thinking about joining. Though the alliance will not be named, as per their request, they also stated that so long as a state of war exists with Sileath, whether it be ingame or simply a declared state of war, Sileath will not be allowed to join until he received peace. This means with Dynomite Pact as well, who doesn't plan on giving you peace when BTA does. Off to talk to a few more alliances. Have a nice day, everyone.

Mmk let's get something clear about you and I here, y'know, before I go on. I'm trying only to be nice in this conversation. This post, because it's online, can and will be taken "snarkily" or as if I'm trying to be mean or if I'm angry. In actuality, I reread this post over and over again but didn't feel like changing it. So keep in mind that I'm not trying to sound the way that this post will inevitably be taken. That said... Now, that may be what you meant of it, but what I took from it was to the amount of "I can't make you leave by telling you your alliance leader fails, but I can by saying that you might come under fire for his actions if you stay in his alliance." Now, I'm not sure where you're getting this thought that seems to imply I'm trying to see it as though you're threatening GDI, because believe me, I'm not as big of a fan as everyone in this thread seems to imply, I'm just reading it as I see. I'm not saying it was threatening as in, MA threatening him. I'm saying it seemed to be threatening in that, the way I took it, it implied that LordLiam was going to be attacked for Ryan's screw ups unless he left GDI. When it comes down to it, who has seriously attacked GDI? The only thing that I can remember, and who knows, maybe you know more about it than I do, is the Dynomite Pact duel and a few separate rogue nations that were taken care of. There has not been a large force to do anything more than threaten GDI, as far as I remember.

Eh, that was a mistake that I'm sure he's learned from (doing research before a raid), if I had to guess.

As someone who has talked to Ryan in an OOC fashion, I disagree with this. Obviously everyone who plays this game takes it a little seriously, even those who play for lulz. If they didn't take it in any way seriously their nations wouldn't outlast the 20 day mark because they wouldn't care enough to bother collecting. But then there's the guys who take it so seriously that they wrap their life around the game and then pretend as though they don't care (See: NPO Pre-Karma War), and there's the guys who just do things for lulz and for fun without much caring what you, I, or anyone else has to say (See: RAD). I think Ryan falls in the middle. He wants to have fun with the game, probably doesn't want to "Fail" as you all put it, but I doubt when it comes down to it, he cares, to be honest with you. Perhaps I read this wrong but that seemed a bit threatening.

...Oh please. Now, onto GDI- Congratulations. Despite what I or the public might think, you've made it. You've done what many other more experienced leaders have failed to do. You have outlasted many of alliances. Congratulations.

Eh, I didn't know he posted in the surrender thread before this. Eh, I'm really left without much of an opinion now. Feel free to report him to Karma, but seriously I'm so sure there's much that can be done about it since there were only 2 ground battles. If I recall ShinRa was one of those who wanted PZI for certain Pacificans, perhaps I'm mistaken but if memory serves then this is the case.

However you wish to take the information, this seems to be the main and latest key to everyone's argument that Ryan is a terrible leader when in fact he's trying to do what's best for his alliance. If I had to guess his biggest PROBLEM is trying to mix kindness into it. A good Cybernations leader is keeping secrets from his/her membership, and holding their own political agenda in mind in all things that they do. Ryan, on the other hand. Heh, well Ryan's different. Ryan does what he wants, but at the same time I don't think he's planning ahead with some sort of political agenda that involves him at the seat of power over anyone else. This is actualy somewhat possible if Ryan really wanted to. After all of the ridicule of GDI, Ryan still has a good core membership that's atleast somewhat active. Now Vilien, do you really think that if no one else were involved in talking to Ryan (literally, just you) that he would have cared? Fact is he either did it because: a. He's nice. or b. He was being threatened by outside parties. It was just worded that way because I imagine he wrote it quickly or it did not cross his mind. I know for a fact that if you would have said, after his surrender, "Okay, well that's nice. My surrender terms now include you paying my nation 45mil and 750 tech over the course of 30 days. kthxbai" then I would have ENCOURAGED him to hit you, and probably dropped the threats. Stop acting as though your part mattered much more than being a victim, because that's all your role was. Soda asked Ryan to surrender numerous times, they ended up coming to a small peace agreement after quite a long time. That's what Soda was, too. A raid. Just a raid who decided to fight back. In this case, no one was threatening Ryan, and Ryan (with an alliance that had less experience and size than it does now) decided to stick with fighting Soda. He didn't unconditionally surrender. You know why? BECAUSE NO ONE BACKED HIM PHYSICALLY. He received a lot of verbal support, but I don't recall anyone backing him military-wise. Vilien, you can argue over whether the Dynomite Pact had influence, but you CANNOT argue over the fact that we made the effort, that there were threats taking place, and that alliances have backed down to us in the past who are larger, in fact, than GDI. Whatever, as a leader Ryan takes care of his members. That's what matters. Not public opinion, not nation size, not past conflicts, it's the opinion of the members. And judging on the fact that they're still there, I doubt they dislike it. /end WallOText

They're letting TRIGON give out war orders now? My respect for NPO shot down. Also with ShinRa, I guess NPO is under protection of Karma but seriously, 4 minutes? That was probably a mistake dude. I'd suggest just letting it go, and moving on. If it happens against, report it to Karma officials. This isn't the best way to bring it up.

I don't particularly care what BTA promises you. I am not them, they are not me, and they are in no way related to the Dynomite Pact. Whatever they've said about the status of OUR WAR WITH YOU was either an assumption or a lie. I have no intention whatsoever of letting you go after they ZI you, because Dynomite did not get a physical chance to fight you before you surrendered, and after that you were too low in the size of your nation. Luckily one of our members re-founded his nation and thus will be able to meet you happily on the way down. Sileath, I can't think of two many alliances that will let in someone who's staggered and at war with three nations, just getting off of a war with a different alliance, and who comes with as much drama as you do. Besides that, have I EVER, EVER, EVER been one to care whether anyone has an alliance or not? I don't plan on you getting to that alliance in one piece, but if they do for some reason except you... Well I will be trying a bit of diplomacy first. After that I'll probably show off some of my nations new military tactics that they've been working on so diligently. :3 Your move, MHA (who I imagine will be the alliance you're speaking of).

Hmm, actually, to the degree that everyone believes. He's a nice guy and despite my sometimes derrogatory statements towards him, he's helped me in ways that many have not. When it comes down to it, people love to hate Ryan. Don't pretend that isn't the way it is. When you talk of him "surrendering" to Vilien, he was under threats from people that could RIP most alliances very badly. He backed down, his only mistake was the wording of the announcement. I like the guy.

I don't think I would have ever trusted NPO as an ally, or expected them at any point to come to our aid. By never trusting them I would have prevented the only alliance "grudge" I've ever really held in CN.

Heh, in reference to BEazy and in regards to some of Sileath's recent antics and actions against the nation of Rawmeng and thus, the entirety of the Dynomite Pact by extension, he'll be lucky if we decide to give him terms without atleast sending him to ZI. Otherwise terms given will actually affect the running of the nation of Sileath. Had his nation's size not been so small, I would have attacked him as usual, of which I planning to do at update. I do believe there's one other member of Dynomite more than capable of melting his entire nation into a wasteland within a short amount of days. Assuming he hasn't surrendered after that conflict ends, he'll be met with myself and MegaAros on his way up the proverbial ladder of nation size, and basically hammered into the ground until he submits to surrender terms.

Indeed, I agree with the OP. I think it'll last for at least the next 3-4 Global Wars, and that's assuming more new "sides" pop up. However I like it quite a lot. A bit more open and a little less "backchannel-ey" than it used to be.

I'VE HAD IT, WITH THESE MOTHER@#$%ING FLAMEBAITS ON THIS MOTHER@#$%ING IC THREAD! Sileath, you have until update tonight to contact me about Dynomite Pact surrender terms.

ICEBURN. Any way, whatever you say ODN. I'm going to refrain from my usual trolly self.

At what point did this topic become "Let's recruit Auric"? Tulak, I don't know you, but as it seems when your "last resort" is to begin swearing and insulting a member, you should probably go ahead and re-evaluate how serious of an offense it honestly was. I know, every time one of the Dynomite Pact signatories gets out of hand I'm forced to throw them to continuously insult that person until he leaves, but I should be no example, right?

Heh, perhaps one of the more closer resemblances of drinking songs would be good for tLC. Megadeth probably ranks my second favorite band of all time and continues to be. I like United Abominations for a particular alliance who's name will not be mentioned, and I LOVE Amerikhastan, and it seems to fit basically the entire Cyberverse. :-P

Funny thing is, he probably didn't have a warchest prior to this.

I'm only seeing one... perhaps because everything else was fail?