The Zigur Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 If Nordreich wants to render themselves irrelevant in a military sense, I dont see the big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Double post Edited February 6, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnipCruncher Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 We seem to suddenly be pretty relevant. Unlike some... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opportunity Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Apparently Nordreich is now the single cog in the wheel of peace for this entire war. We seem pretty relevant, since NPO can't even get peace unless little ole Nordreich surrenders to ragequitman. Edited February 6, 2014 by Opportunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krashnaia Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Oh, NPO can get peace, since they have already agreed to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnipCruncher Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Then why keep saying we are holding up the whole shebang? Exaggerate much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Then why keep saying we are holding up the whole shebang? Exaggerate much? NPO's peace deal requires every other alliance on your side to peace out, 2+2=? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 So VE demand a surrender? Not that this thread has anything to do with VE, but the alliances fighting NoR are expecting a surrender, just as the alliances fighting NSO are expecting one, NG, etc, etc. Some alliances decided to not request that term from specific people, as is their prerogative. You guys don't even have an issue with surrender. You've said you'd be fine surrendering to the coalition, or admitting defeat to specific alliances, or surrendering to a more broad description of your front. But you decided to be petty and say that you won't surrender to DoD. I hate to inform you, but that's a pretty basic request to make of a victorious alliance, to simply have the defeated to surrender to end the war. People end up being successful negotiating on a lot of things, but when surrender is the absolute floor, there is nowhere to negotiate but up, and I hope for your own sakes you decide to end your front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 NPO's peace deal requires every other alliance on your side to peace out, 2+2=? With "amicable peace" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnipCruncher Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 NPO's peace deal requires every other alliance on your side to peace out, 2+2=? You don't all seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Then why keep saying we are holding up the whole shebang? Exaggerate much? NPO awaits the side fronts closing. They have made the decision to continue to be at war until everything wraps up. No terms are being asked of NoR besides surrender, a basic form of admission of defeat. You choose to haggle over language, meanwhile NPO is stuck in war. The funniest (saddest?) part of this is that your refusal to accept that will end up pushing NPO's PM guys into that 1.2-1.3x range (with the added days they wait for you), instead of the 1.1x they spent so much time negotiating it down to. So thank you for imposing our terms for us. Edited February 6, 2014 by Goldie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 but the alliances fighting NoR are expecting a surrender, just as the alliances fighting NSO are expecting one Well so far, only 1 of 3 is looking for an admission of defeat. None of the three of have asked for a surrender -- unless you want to argue semantics of 'admission of defeat' versus 'surrender' to make your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Looks like Rayvon corrected an oversight. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnipCruncher Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 You find an AA yet Tywin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) You find an AA yet Tywin? Im going to decide my next course of action after the war ends. Options are being explored. Edited February 6, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Well so far, only 1 of 3 is looking for an admission of defeat. None of the three of have asked for a surrender -- unless you want to argue semantics of 'admission of defeat' versus 'surrender' to make your point. Every single alliance on that front is looking for a basic surrender to end the front. Not sure what point you're trying to make here. "Admission of defeat" was rejected out of hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 You find an AA yet Tywin? That'd probably require a reroll or DoE on his part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 With "amicable peace" I dunno about your own preferences, but admitting defeat/surrendering, would be agreeable to me, it isnt like bassman is demanding the entire alliance change their flag to Ariana Grande or anything. You don't all seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet. Goldie would be an official party line, mine is that of an outside observer(albeit one with far far more resources and information than the average though.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnipCruncher Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 That'd probably require a reroll or DoE on his part. Hmm, because he is not a part of whatever happens here then. So mock away Tywin, because ze war for you iz not over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Every single alliance on that front is looking for a basic surrender to end the front. Not sure what point you're trying to make here. "Admission of defeat" was rejected out of hand. I have two agreements already in place. One is for White Peace, one is for an Admission of Defeat. The third, I'm still waiting for the desired vernacular. I wasn't trying to make any point except to correct an oversight, but I suppose if you want to find a point in there somewhere - it's that you are wrong, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Hmm, because he is not a part of whatever happens here then. So mock away Tywin, because ze war for you iz not over. Think Snowden with no valuable information...noone wants to touch that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opportunity Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Looks like RageQuitassman is holding VE and Co. by the balls. Everyone else is getting white peace and admission of defeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Think Snowden with no valuable information...noone wants to touch that. what does that make me then? Looks like RageQuitassman is holding VE and Co. by the balls. Everyone else is getting white peace and admission of defeat. You know, this whole public bitchfit you guys have been having for the past few days isnt exactly going to win you any fans in VE and co, and more than likely just get them to support bassman asking for whatever the fuck he wants, simply to spite you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opportunity Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 what does that make me then? You know, this whole public !@#$%*fit you guys have been having for the past few days isnt exactly going to win you any fans in VE and co, and more than likely just get them to support bassman asking for whatever the $%&@ he wants, simply to spite you. If RageQuitassman holds their balls that tight, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagpuss Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 An admission of defeat IS a surrender ffs.... Diff words same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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