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The logs are legit. I remember the first and I have confirmation from Yuurei (the real one) that the second is true, although more than a year old. (Somebody must really hold a grudge against that guy to have logs that far back) However the logs were taken way out of context. The part about avoiding two wars: Yuurei talked about this. He hated that he couldn't enter the last war. He had arranged to enter with some other people, but they flaked. He would much rather have a decimated alliance but well respected than a strong but disrespected one. 

 

Yuurei has always held a neutral stance. We defend our allies but don't get into wars because those same allies declared. He explicitly wrote the treaties like that so he didn't get caught in a treaty web.

 

And lastly: Why has there been not a single positive comment on this thread? Hmmm . . . Haters gonna hate.

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19:07:01: <xxx> so remind me why you dont like TTE :P
19:07:09: <yyy> Yuurei
19:07:22: <xxx> wat bout him lol
19:07:25: <yyy> And his sandpaper personality
19:07:44: <xxx> thats it? lol
19:08:04: <yyy> Well, he whines whenever we sign new treaties with anyone he doesn't like
19:08:07: <xxx> Pitched a fit about GOD
19:08:22: <yyy> and thinks we're doing some heinous crime by *discussing* upgrading with MCXA
19:09:00: <xxx> lol
19:09:09: <yyy> If he expressed it as a concern instead of as a "You're leading CCC down the wrong road here" sort of deal, that would be one thing

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FYI, the point of annoucements is to annouce things, not hide them.
 
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The fact this announcement was posted on a fake account really flew over your head there, didn't it? Edited by Tiagoroth
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06:38:20: <aaa> apparently Yuurei flipped shit on him because he was leaving AZ
06:39:37: <xxx> heh yeah i bet he did
06:44:41: <xxx> the funny thing is, and Hardin will tell u this
06:45:07: <aaa> ?
06:45:19: <xxx> even when those two agreed with each other on things, it wasnt easy to have a good communincation
06:46:18: aaa> cause of one worded questions?
06:46:20: <aaa> lol
06:46:30: <xxx> just...idk
06:46:36: <xxx> so hard to talk to
06:46:43: <xxx> idk how to explain it
06:46:52: <xxx> u make a joke, he doesnt react
06:47:04: <xxx> u make another joke, he doesnt notice
06:47:18: <xxx> u make small talk, he isnt interested
06:47:48: <xxx> u disagree with him in public,he gets pissed
06:47:57: <xxx> :P
06:50:04: <aaa> u disagree in private, he gets pissed XD
06:53:14: <xxx> that too!
06:53:15: <xxx> :P
06:53:23: <xxx> u talk out of turn....pissed
06:53:26: <xxx> actuallty
06:53:32: <xxx]> he is a good guy though
06:53:40: <xxx> im being mean and exagerrating slightly
06:53:42: <xxx> but still
06:53:52: <xxx> i mean, those logs tell all :P

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Haters gonna hate?  lol   When you can label 90% of the people as "haters" you might want to stop and take a good look at yourself...    No offense intended, jut a bit of food for thought is all.

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02:08:45: <aaa> i just wanted to know how Arizona is goin for you guys :)
02:10:02: <xxx> its going well
02:10:24: <xxx> weve had some diagreement on what AZ should be as far as FA goals goes
02:10:34: <xxx> and we all decided to keep it pretty low key for now
02:10:38: <xxx> which is the right choice
02:11:17: <xxx> AZ will do big things by staying outside the poltical mess of traditional bob diplomacy
02:11:20: <aaa> Yuurei trying to strong arm the group again? lol
02:11:26: <xxx> lol
02:11:27: <xxx> not anymore
02:11:28: <xxx> :p
02:11:34: <aaa> lol
02:11:36: <xxxx> we are all on the same page now
02:11:42: <aaa> you guys finally put him in his place? XD
02:13:22: <xxx> you might say that
02:13:22: <xxx> XD
02:13:29: <xxx> had some hard talks
02:13:39: <xxx> its yuurei
02:13:40: <xxx> u know how he is XD
02:13:49: <xxx> why u ask?
02:14:30: <aaa> haha
02:14:55: <aaa> i'm trying to make sure rather than him trying to force you guys into things again :P
02:15:19: <aaa> (remember if you make any FA moves he doesnt like he'll bitch about it for months :P)
02:16:22: <xxx> :p f course
02:16:27: <xxx> of *
02:16:48: <xxx> nah we won't be letting him dictate CCC foreign policy
02:17:04: <xxx> we joined AZ because we liked the idea
02:17:22: <xxx> and we don't want it to be like the other blocs out there
02:17:27: <aaa> that's what i like to hear lol
02:17:45: <xxx> the AA's in it would never be able to participate together if it was a traditional bloc
02:17:58: <aaa> why you say that?
02:18:12: <xxx> Yuurei seems to be torn as to what he wants the bloc to become
02:19:05: <xxx> well
02:19:34: <xxx> some of them have ties to AA's we do not necessarily want to be directly tied to
02:20:01: <xxx> i'm struggling to come up with which ones off the top of my head
02:20:08: <xxx> but that was the consensus
02:20:38: <xxx> not to mention, many AA's in AZ do not the ties that CCC has
02:20:52: <xxx> for example, TTE hates Polar and GOD
02:21:07: <xxx> how do we reconcile that with a traditional treaty?
02:21:12: <xxx> it can't happen
02:21:36: <xxx> and we accept that, TTE doesn't have to like our friends, providing we keep things as is
02:21:58: <xxx> thats just one example of many
02:22:46: <aaa> ah ok then
02:24:33: <xxx> right now, a strength of the bloc is that it can potentially bring in AA's from anywhere on the web, so long as they believe in our vision and values
02:25:01: <xxx> i understand the goals of some of the AA's in AZ though

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Heh, they're probably not all that fake. It's likely that some alliances are scummy, and those that don't participate in wars despite being in a bloc are a prime example of those that would scheme to get big.

 

Isn't Arizona an ODP bloc anyway?

 

And I'm not saying I'm on board with the idea of an ODP bloc, but if it is an ODP bloc, then it doesn't necessarily provide incentive for them to get involved in wars.

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Isn't Arizona an ODP bloc anyway?
 
And I'm not saying I'm on board with the idea of an ODP bloc, but if it is an ODP bloc, then it doesn't necessarily provide incentive for them to get involved in wars.

Which is why they would be in it; to have defense but no need to stick their neck out for friends.
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Which is why they would be in it; to have defense but no need to stick their neck out for friends.

 

Uh, Look up ODP treaty buddy.  It guarantees no defense from anyone hence an ODP.  That being said, The Terran Empire does alot of taking out raiders for the alliances both in and out of Arizona. 

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The OWF reminds me of a sorority of menstruating men bantering over which boy looked the hottest.  It is like the same 10 people that comment non stop over anything and everything.

 

With all respect to participants on the forums ;) 

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