Owned-You Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Dear NV, A message from your esteemed Founder...start buying tech guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dy Cazaril Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 I wish we were higher on that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolfe2015 Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Do you calculate only accepted slots, curiously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 [quote name='lonewolfe2015' timestamp='1284516704' post='2454260'] Do you calculate only accepted slots, curiously? [/quote] Accepted and pending. It goes down the master aid list until it hits one that's expired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Thanks for that breakdown Gopher. It is very informative. Even I'm surprised to see we scored so high considering the influx of very new nations we've had of late and the fact that we try to deal almost exclusively within Nordreich. There's always room for improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordtyrion Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Yay us! Hopefully we will be sanctioned soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka the Great Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 /me checks aid slots Yep. All full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 [quote name='Captain Flinders' timestamp='1284518108' post='2454284'] Thanks for that breakdown Gopher. It is very informative. Even I'm surprised to see we scored so high considering the influx of very new nations we've had of late and the fact that [b]we try to deal almost exclusively within Nordreich[/b]. There's always room for improvement. [/quote] On the contrary - that should only help you. If you can arrange one tech deal between two NoR nations, you fill up two aid slots while doing the same work you'd need to fill one externally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batallion Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 [quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1284516850' post='2454262'] Accepted and pending. It goes down the master aid list until it hits one that's expired. [/quote] So I take it you've also ensured that two alliances with similar names don't get intertwined? For example, I believe iFOK and FOK would have shared aid screens, although only in one way. For example, FOK can see iFOK but iFOK can't see FOK. If not, get that fixed. Furthermore, you should also have a formula like the following: (# of nations)*4 + (# of Foreign Ministries) + (# of Disaster Relief Agencies) in order to compute an alliance-wide total aid slot number for comparison percentage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1284520103' post='2454322'] So I take it you've also ensured that two alliances with similar names don't get intertwined? For example, I believe iFOK and FOK would have shared aid screens, although only in one way. For example, FOK can see iFOK but iFOK can't see FOK. If not, get that fixed. Furthermore, you should also have a formula like the following: (# of nations)*4 + (# of Foreign Ministries) + (# of Disaster Relief Agencies) in order to compute an alliance-wide total aid slot number for comparison percentage. [/quote] 1) Yes - the search item is |fok| or |ifok| - where the vertical line is used by the aid list to denote column separations (see below). I was initially concerned with FOK's result for this reason, but a quick manual verification of their aid screen seemed to back up what the program gave me. 422315|Balthe Mehin|Leo Divinus|Carpe Diem Applicant|Brown|391930|noodlemonkeh|noodlemonkeh[b]|Carpe Diem|[/b]Brown|Pending|0|50|0|9/14/2010 5:19:13 PM| 2) That is correct. Edited September 15, 2010 by Gopherbashi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manis B Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 What about alliances accepting reps? are there any on that list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 [quote name='Manis B' timestamp='1284521189' post='2454350'] What about alliances accepting reps? are there any on that list? [/quote] I'm sure there are, but the data isn't being differentiated between reps and other aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manis B Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1284521471' post='2454356'] I'm sure there are, but the data isn't being differentiated between reps and other aid. [/quote] no, but i would expect a higher percentage on the aid slot usage, both by the giving and recieving alliance just making an observation Edited September 15, 2010 by Manis B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 [quote name='Manis B' timestamp='1284521528' post='2454358'] no, but i would expect a higher percentage on the aid slot usage, both by the giving and recieving alliance just making an observation [/quote] That's probably true - something to look for over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMatt Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Gopher - I like the aid slot usage automator you have there. Any way that can be updated weekly? (Also, a graph of the %'s over time would be useful!) Nice to see TFD up there. Our tech program leaders have really kept on top of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 [center][img]http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/104/sanctionrace.jpg[/img][/center] [b]September 14, 2010[/b] [img]http://i50.tinypic.com/2iik8it.png[/img] 1 [682] [color=red](-4)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]Mostly Harmless Alliance[/b][/color] : 62.78 --> 62.80 [color=green](+0.02)[/color] [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/125m9dw.png[/img] 2 [512] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=red][b]New Pacific Order[/b][/color] : 56.79 --> 56.81 [color=green](+0.02)[/color] [img]http://www.rnr-alliance.com/kctoker/sanction/gpa.png[/img] 3 [257] [color=red](-3)[/color] [color=green][b]Green Protection Agency[/b][/color] : 45.71 --> 45.72 [color=green](+0.01)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/1442r0g.png[/img] 4 [406] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=blue][b]New Polar Order[/b][/color] : 44.45 --> 44.46 [color=green](+0.01)[/color] [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/2zi6k1w.png[/img] 5 [333] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=black][b]Sparta[/b][/color] : 39.96 --> 40.05 [color=green](+0.09)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/t5gf4j.png[/img] 6 [293] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]Fark[/b][/color] : 38.17 --> 38.26 [color=green](+0.09)[/color] {173} [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=blue][i]World Task Force[/i][/color] : 36.99 --> 37.02 [color=green](+0.03)[/color] [img]http://i47.tinypic.com/2qx2usj.png[/img] 7 [211] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]Mushroom Kingdom[/b][/color] : 36.81 --> 36.84 [color=green](+0.03)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/8vof2a.png[/img] 8 [319] [color=green](+2)[/color] [color=green][b]Viridian Entente[/b][/color] : 36.14 --> 36.25 [color=green](+0.11)[/color] [img]http://i25.tinypic.com/30axf8k.png[/img] 9 [406] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=purple][b]The Legion[/b][/color] : 35.23 --> 35.13 [color=red](-0.10)[/color] [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/not5oi.png[/img] 10 [318] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=orange][b]Orange Defense Network[/b][/color] : 34.50 --> 34.59 [color=green](+0.09)[/color] [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/2s7z11t.png[/img] 11 [289] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]The Democratic Order[/b][/color] : 31.03 --> 31.10 [color=green](+0.07)[/color] {198} [color=green](+2)[/color] [color=orange][i]The Order of the Paradox[/i][/color] : 28.80 --> 28.95 [color=green](+0.15)[/color] 12 [204] [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=orange][b]FOK[/b][/color] : 27.67 --> 27.66 [color=red](-0.01)[/color] --------------- 13 [296] [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=orange]Independent Republic of Orange Nations[/color] : 24.83 --> 24.93 [color=green](+0.10)[/color] 14 [307] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=brown]Global Alliance and Treaty Organization[/color] : 24.79 --> 24.69 [color=red](-0.10)[/color] ---------- Tier Barrier 1 : 22.67 --> 22.66 [color=red](-0.01)[/color] {77} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=black][i]Umbrella[/i][/color] : 22.55 --> 22.58 [color=green](+0.03)[/color] {178} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=gray][i]The Order Of Light[/i][/color] : 21.25 --> 21.28 [color=green](+0.03)[/color] 15 [210] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=purple]United Purple Nations[/color] : 20.26 --> 20.23 [color=red](-0.03)[/color] {195} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=gold][i]Federation of Armed Nations[/i][/color] : 19.95 --> 19.97 [color=green](+0.02)[/color] {131} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=blue][i]Nueva Vida[/i][/color] : 19.91 --> 19.92 [color=green](+0.01)[/color] [219] [color=green](+2)[/color] [color=blue]Multicolored Cross-X Alliance[/color] : 19.79 --> 19.88 [color=green](+0.09)[/color] [211] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=maroon]Random Insanity Alliance[/color] : 19.70 --> 19.74 [color=green](+0.04)[/color] {171} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][i]Ragnarok[/i][/color] : 19.21 --> 19.25 [color=green](+0.04)[/color] {179} [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=black][i]Nordreich[/i][/color] : 18.99 --> 19.08 [color=green](+0.09)[/color] [239] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=orange]RnR[/color] : 18.55 --> 18.71 [color=green](+0.16)[/color] {139} [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][i]Athens[/i][/color] : 18.64 --> 18.54 [color=red](-0.10)[/color] [291] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=black]Goon Order of Oppression Negligence and Sadism[/color] : 17.88 --> 17.88 [color=black](+0.00)[/color] {163} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=blue][i]The Foreign Division[/i][/color] : 17.80 --> 17.84 [color=green](+0.04)[/color] ---------- Tier Barrier 2 : 17.67 --> 17.66 [color=red](-0.01)[/color] {128} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=maroon][i]Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations[/i][/color] : 16.42 --> 16.43 [color=green](+0.01)[/color] {126} [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=gray][i]Siberian Tiger Alliance[/i][/color] : 16.50 --> 16.35 [color=red](-0.15)[/color] {140} [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=gray][i]Nusantara Elite Warriors[/i][/color] : 15.57 --> 15.66 [color=green](+0.09)[/color] {129} [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=blue][i]NATO[/i][/color] : 15.67 --> 15.65 [color=red](-0.02)[/color] {114} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=orange][i]The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons[/i][/color] : 15.48 --> 15.52 [color=green](+0.04)[/color] {78} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=black][i]Poison Clan[/i][/color] : 15.04 --> 15.12 [color=green](+0.08)[/color] {137} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=green][i]World Federation[/i][/color] : 14.95 --> 14.98 [color=green](+0.03)[/color] {131} [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=purple][i]iFOK[/i][/color] : 14.22 --> 14.18 [color=red](-0.04)[/color] ---------- Add Line : 13.84 --> 13.83 [color=red](-0.01)[/color] ---------- Drop Line : 13.54 --> 13.53 [color=red](-0.01)[/color] [b]Biggest Gainer[/b] [color=orange]RnR[/color] [color=green](+0.16)[/color] [b]Biggest Loser[/b] [color=gray][i]Siberian Tiger Alliance[/i][/color] [color=red](-0.15)[/color] [b]Passes of the Day[/b] [color=orange]RnR[/color] passes [color=#48D1CC]Athens[/color] [color=maroon]Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations[/color] passes [color=gray]Siberian 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infinite citadel Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 [quote name='Manis B' timestamp='1284521528' post='2454358'] no, but i would expect a higher percentage on the aid slot usage, both by the giving and recieving alliance just making an observation [/quote] Reps have been hurting our aid slot usage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 [quote name='iMatt' timestamp='1284523159' post='2454395'] Gopher - I like the aid slot usage automator you have there. Any way that can be updated weekly? (Also, a graph of the %'s over time would be useful!) Nice to see TFD up there. Our tech program leaders have really kept on top of things. [/quote] It's not really all that automatic - it was only designed to handle one alliance at a time (ie. my own). The stats I posted had to be done manually for each one, and took a fair amount of time, so I'm really not inclined to make it a regular thing (unless I find some time to redesign the program to handle all alliances at once - which, now that I think about it, may not be that difficult). But I'm more than happy to give out stats to individual alliances on request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Manis B' timestamp='1284521528' post='2454358'] no, but i would expect a higher percentage on the aid slot usage, both by the giving and recieving alliance just making an observation [/quote] It's decreased my slot usage. Luckily I haven't gone with more than 2 slots for reps yet so the worst I'll usually go down to is 66%. Edited September 15, 2010 by Drai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Caspian Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 NV, NpO and Sparta all surprise me on that list of aid slot usage... As for VE... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Nicely done as always Umbrella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMatt Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 [quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1284524171' post='2454422'] It's not really all that automatic - it was only designed to handle one alliance at a time (ie. my own). The stats I posted had to be done manually for each one, and took a fair amount of time, so I'm really not inclined to make it a regular thing (unless I find some time to redesign the program to handle all alliances at once - which, now that I think about it, may not be that difficult). But I'm more than happy to give out stats to individual alliances on request. [/quote] If you have it for one alliance, and you're using the aid sheets that you can download then it shouldn't be too too difficult to automate the whole thing. But yeah, TFD has been collecting this (me by hand, often) data, and our numbers have fluctuated from 30% before a tech program start date, to 50% the next day, it would kind of be cool to see those fluctuations. I understand if it can't be automated it doesn't make sense to do all that by hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 [quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1284519813' post='2454316'] On the contrary - that should only help you. If you can arrange one tech deal between two NoR nations, you fill up two aid slots while doing the same work you'd need to fill one externally. [/quote] Ah, good point. I'm glad we're back to our more steady growth. The big fluxes up and down make me nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iserlohn Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) 1) For aid slot usage, do you remember to double the number of slots used when it's intra-alliance aid? (one aid listing, but two of your AA's slots are used) 2) Are you also counting the number of foreign ministries and DRAs, or are you just assuming 5 slots per nation? Edited September 15, 2010 by Iserlohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) Tsk, when we last calculated your slots, you were at 98%, Umbrella! Quit slacking! Edited September 15, 2010 by ktarthan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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