If DoomHouse isn't evil

[LittleRena]

[quote name='Wu Tang Clan' timestamp='1302024241' post='2684762']
I saw doomhouse kicking puppies yesterday.

Pure evil.
[/quote]

Oh, that's fine, I don't like dogs, I've changed my mind, DoomHouse are good.
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[quote name='speakerwire' timestamp='1302024295' post='2684764']
Last I checked, 'the side that wins, makes the rules'.
[/quote]

So you'd be proud to be an oppressor?
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Edited April 5, 2011 by LittleRena

[Sarmatian Empire]

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1302024750' post='2684774']
Oh, that's fine, I don't like dogs, I've changed my mind, DoomHouse are good.
[/quote]

Well DH doesn't like NPO, therefore it must be ok for them to do.

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[speakerwire]

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1302024750' post='2684774']So you'd be proud to be an oppressor?[/quote]

I don't see how it's a fair comparison.

One side offered a peace plan, one which will end up easing the war related burden of the opposing sides lower classes.

The other side encourages their starving underlings to die for them whilst the top hides.

In that sense, I guess yes - I would be proud to be an 'oppressor'. Much in the same way the hypothetical men of the hypothetical 69th Fighting Dragon Child Eaters would be proud to be 'oppressors'.

[LittleRena]

[quote name='speakerwire' timestamp='1302025292' post='2684785']
*stuff*
[/quote]

This is all irrelevent, you want to dictate how others run their alliances, if they don't want to do it your way, you'll attack them. Are you sure this isn't evil?
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[speakerwire]

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1302025455' post='2684790']
This is all irrelevent, you want to dictate how others run their alliances, if they don't want to do it your way, you'll attack them. Are you sure this isn't evil?
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When and where did we dictate to others how to run their alliances prior to their defeat (or prior to our military engagements with them)?

[Gibsonator21]

LittleRena is evil.

[LittleRena]

[quote name='speakerwire' timestamp='1302025580' post='2684791']
When and where did we dictate to others how to run their alliances prior to their defeat (or prior to our military engagements with them)?
[/quote]

You are aware when I said "[i]if they don't want to do it your way, you'll attack them.[/i]" it implies that you would threatern military force in order for them to do what you want them to do.

NPO where attacked because you thought they where going to enter PB-NpO, that can be overlooked but now you want them out of peace mode, which is telling them how to run their alliance, it's on a diffrent level to reps.

It's one thing to ask for reps, it's another to demand an alliance to change their war policy.
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[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1302025711' post='2684792']
LittleRena is evil.
[/quote]

Why am I evil?
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Edited April 5, 2011 by LittleRena

[Williambonney]

[quote name='speakerwire' timestamp='1302025580' post='2684791']
When and where did we dictate to others how to run their alliances prior to their defeat (or prior to our military engagements with them)?
[/quote]

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=99990&view=findpost&p=2684087

[quote]This has been discussed and answered about sixty quadrillion times. I'm pretty sure it's even been answered to you. The answer, once again, is that the war would be over had they fought in the war. The peace mode strategy is not one that planet Bob can condone or allow to be used in future wars. Thus, we're putting a stop to it now.[/quote]

While I'm content that dh is more than willing to adopt such a strategy and exercise their own civil rights, I'm pretty sure a lot of alliances out there might have a problem with this claim, seeing as how they are sovereign and all, but then what do I know anyways, right?

Edited April 5, 2011 by William Bonney

[General Scipio]

If evolution is real how come there are still monkeys?

WHY

[speakerwire]

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1302025850' post='2684794']
You are aware when I said "[i]if they don't want to do it your way, you'll attack them.[/i]" it implies that you would threatern military force in order for them to do what you want them to do.[/quote]

We don't leverage military force lightly because even a dramatic victory will still levy heavy losses for us which in turn make us vulnerable. Something that is understandably undesireable based on PBs current anti-GOONS bias.

[quote]NPO where attacked because you thought they where going to enter PB-NpO, that can be overlooked but now you want them out of peace mode, which is telling them how to run their alliance, it's on a diffrent level to reps.[/quote]

How so? A demand related to peace is a demand related to peace. If they don't feel it's worth it, that's their decision to make and there's no need for them to take it. As time goes on they might become more likely to accept previous offered peace agreements or perhaps new ones will be offered. That's the nature of war-related politics.

But they certainly can't expect to win a PR war if their top tier wages continued war via the bloodied backs of their lower tiers.

[quote]It's one thing to ask for reps, it's another to demand an alliance to change their war policy.[/quote]

Which is entirely your opinion. Different nations and groups of nations often harbor different opinions.

[quote name='William Bonney' timestamp='1302026068' post='2684796']
While I'm content that dh is more than willing to adopt such a strategy and exercise their own civil rights, I'm pretty sure a lot of alliances out there might have a problem with this claim, seeing as how they are sovereign and all, but then what do I know anyways, right?
[/quote]

Last I checked, GOONS nor DH are waging war (or intend to wage war) with everyone on PB to enforce that view.

While that position may change, I sincerely doubt it will.

Edited April 5, 2011 by speakerwire

[Williambonney]

[quote name='speakerwire' timestamp='1302026236' post='2684798']

Last I checked, GOONS nor DH are waging war (or intend to wage war) with everyone on PB to enforce that view.

While that position may change, I sincerely doubt it will.
[/quote]


Then how exactly, may I ask, do you plan to enforce the dropping of said strategy?

[Groucho Marx]

Subjective statement justified by flawed reasoning.


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Edited April 5, 2011 by Emperor Marx

[LittleRena]

[quote name='speakerwire' timestamp='1302026236' post='2684798']
We don't leverage military force lightly because even a dramatic victory will still levy heavy losses for us which in turn make us vulnerable.[/quote]

Considering the ammount of alliances within your grouping, you'd be unlikly to be vulnerable for too long.
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[quote]How so? A demand related to peace is a demand related to peace. If they don't feel it's worth it, that's their decision to make and there's no need for them to take it. As time goes on they might become more likely to accept previous offered peace agreements or perhaps new ones will be offered. That's the nature of war-related politics.

But they certainly can't expect to win a PR war if their top tier wages continued war via the bloodied backs of their lower tiers.[/quote]

Why haven't discussions of new terms been proposed by now already though? This is an issue for another topic already running but still, you're trying to impose something they don't want onto them for a war which has long been over.

And I don't think anyone is going to come out of this gaining PR.
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[quote]
Which is entirely your opinion. Different nations and groups of nations often harbor different opinions.
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Some groups think it's okay to leave the top teir as banks or whatever, you and your buddies don't and you want to push your opinion onto them.
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[quote name='Emperor Marx' timestamp='1302026616' post='2684803']
Subjective statement justified by flawed reasoning.
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That's your opinion.
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Edited April 5, 2011 by LittleRena

[White Chocolate]

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1302021696' post='2684710']
Why is the bloc called DoomHouse?
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Because no one there suggested the fantastic idea of calling themselves Warm Fuzzy House?

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[LittleRena]

[quote name='White Chocolate' timestamp='1302026938' post='2684808']
Because no one there suggested the fantastic idea of calling themselves Warm Fuzzy House?
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I love that name but even Fuzzy House alone sounds nice.
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[speakerwire]

[quote name='William Bonney' timestamp='1302026503' post='2684800']
Then how exactly, may I ask, do you plan to enforce the dropping of said strategy?
[/quote]

While I can't talk for GOONS/DH strategists or chief politicians, it is my interpretation that we intend to show that things run the risk of being worse for nations that follow NPOs current example in future wars, If the example is made correctly, it is likely fewer nations of will follow that example. If we succeed, wars will often be shorter and the resulting peace more profound and good natured.

I may be wrong with this point and if so I will gladly let our top tiers speak to their motivations about our current course of action.

Either way, this above mentioned course of action does not require us to wage war with the world to make the point.

[quote='LittleRena']Considering the ammount of alliances within your grouping, you'd be unlikly to be vulnerable for too long.[/quote]

Indeed, GOONS nations are often very friendly nations. Which is why it's kind of telling that we don't get along with chunks of NPO very well.

[quote]Why haven't discussions of new terms been proposed by now already though? This is an issue for another topic already running but still, you're trying to impose something they don't want onto them for a war which has long been over.[/quote]

I can't speak as to what goes on behind closed doors, but it seems NPO is not being particularly active in the bargaining process.

[quote]Some groups think it's okay to leave the top teir as banks or whatever, you and your buddies don't and you want to push your opinion onto them.[/quote]

And had the positions of DH and NPO been reversed, and they had tried to force that position on us in via a peace deal. We would offer it some consideration before making a choice as I'm sure they offered some consideration to DH's demands before making their choice to continue fighting.

Edited April 5, 2011 by speakerwire

[LittleRena]

[quote name='speakerwire' timestamp='1302027535' post='2684816']
Indeed, GOONS nations are often very friendly nations. Which is why it's kind of telling that we don't get along with chunks of NPO very well.
[/quote]

Of all the GOONS I have spoken to, only a few come across as friendly, I've not spoken to many NPO members to make a judgement on them, but um, why where GOONS protected once by an alliance who's members they didn't get along with?
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[speakerwire]

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1302027892' post='2684820']
Of all the GOONS I have spoken to, only a few come across as friendly, I've not spoken to many NPO members to make a judgement on them, but um, why where GOONS protected once by an alliance who's members they didn't get along with?
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You need time together to determine if you get along or not. That time was had in the past and it, in part, lead to the poltical climate we have now.

[Fyfe XIV]

Your logical process is objectively terrible.

[Il Impero Romano]

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1302021696' post='2684710']
Why is the bloc called DoomHouse?
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Because its convenient short hand for a little 3 way treaty, and has a catchy ring to it. "Doomhouse" is easier to say than "two members of Pandora's Box, GOONS and Umbrella, plus the Mushroom Kingdom".

[LittleRena]

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1302029120' post='2684836']
"Doomhouse" is easier to say than "two members of Pandora's Box, GOONS and Umbrella, plus the Mushroom Kingdom".
[/quote]

I dunno, 2PB+MK sounds pretty neat.
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[ktarthan]

If you look closely at the treaty, [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeBjr8Bm_wA]you might find a clue[/url]

Edit: also, not a bloc

Edited April 5, 2011 by ktarthan

[LittleRena]

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1302029281' post='2684842']
If you look closely at the treaty, [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeBjr8Bm_wA]you might find a clue[/url]
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I can't read but it seems pretty evil.
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[Emperor Whimsical]

This is the worst thread.

[supercoolyellow]

No no no, its called Doom House, because they're doomed, and they all [ooc] role play [/ooc] as houses.