Aurion Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Carnoly' timestamp='1301102357' post='2676548'] or until they want to raid planet bob for tech again. [/quote] What's wrong with tech raiding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Carnoly Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 nothing unless you are mass tech raiding alliances for recreation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Carnoly' timestamp='1301103190' post='2676564'] nothing unless you are mass tech raiding alliances for recreation. [/quote] I just call that warring NADC tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) [quote name='FreddieMercury' timestamp='1301069984' post='2676095'] You mean the one time our gov came to discuss just the possibility of it? Yeah ok. I think that sounded more witty in your head. [/quote] Why would you ask for a meeting with us if you were going to turn down the best possible situation? (unless you were expecting us to pay you to leave the front?) And I'm pretty sure there was another interchange before that where we had offered white peace and it was declined but I could be wrong on that account. The fact that it even hapened once is ridculous though. Edited March 26, 2011 by Drai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Carnoly Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 its not just NADC, but every alliance that does not follow what u believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Carnoly' timestamp='1301103629' post='2676577'] its not just NADC, but every alliance that does not follow what u believe. [/quote] Warring alliances that do not agree with me politically is not always a giant tech raid, just if they are severely incompetent militarily and internally. Like NADC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajdav Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Good luck, VE! See you on the battlefield! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Carnoly Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1301104119' post='2676585'] Warring alliances that do not agree with me politically is not always a giant tech raid, just if they are severely incompetent militarily and internally. Like NADC. [/quote] thank you, yes i know we don't have a great track record but we are going to not go down easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Letum' timestamp='1301101478' post='2676526'] What exactly is "moving on" supposed to constitute in this context? Doomhouse no longer having us as a target? Doomhouse no longer considering us a threat? Doomhouse no longer seeing our circle as "the opposition"? Doomhouse no longer acting in its "national interest" without regard to who they screw over? [/quote] Ok, look at it this way. NOTHING they offer you is going to be good enough, because you have no way of verifying what they say is what they will do. What if they give you white peace right now? Nothing stops them from attacking you again in a month, once you are all out of peace mode. Or 2 months, or 3. At some point, there will have to be some trust. It's that simple. You either stay in peace mode forever, surrender in some fashion and take some licks, or hope they just white peace out and forget about you. There aren't many other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David der Grosse Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='janax' timestamp='1301097567' post='2676460'] If I thought there was any chance of them letting you get away with the PM "tactic", I might agree with you. Here's a hint, I don't think anyone is going to get away with it.Hopefully you aren't implying we switched sides either, as a quick scan of our treaty list and the dates of those treaties should disabuse you of that notion. (Here's a hint, no treaty less than 2 years old has been used this series of wars). [/quote] [quote name='Sithis' timestamp='1301098140' post='2676472'] Like everyone else on the other side of this war, Avalon's surrender is inevitable. If they come out of peace mode, their term negotiations will probably go better than if they just sat in it for the duration of this conflict. [/quote] Again with the "Peace Mode, waaaaaah" complaints. We've discussed this [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=57760&view=findpost&p=1533307"]before, during Karma[/url]. Talk to those who've fought us. Ask them for an appraisal of our character and our performance. And know that when you face any one of us you'll be in for the fight of your life. Keep your powder dry, boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Carnoly Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 you have a true statement. Basically u surrender or suffer later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='David der Grosse' timestamp='1301108149' post='2676660'] Again with the "Peace Mode, waaaaaah" complaints. We've discussed this [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=57760&view=findpost&p=1533307"]before, during Karma[/url]. Talk to those who've fought us. Ask them for an appraisal of our character and our performance. And know that when you face any one of us you'll be in for the fight of your life. Keep your powder dry, boys. [/quote] I doubt we'd be in for the fight of anything. You don't even have anyone in your alliance within range of our average nation strength. You literally have only 800 more tech as an alliance than one of our members have in his nation. You could nip at our heels a little bit, but not much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffey Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='janax' timestamp='1301108863' post='2676676'] I doubt we'd be in for the fight of anything. You don't even have anyone in your alliance within range of our average nation strength. You literally have only 800 more tech as an alliance than one of our members have in his nation. You could nip at our heels a little bit, but not much else. [/quote] nip you at the heels for as long as we want, always being a little irritation that you cant seem to get rid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Carnoly' timestamp='1301107591' post='2676643'] thank you, yes i know we don't have a great track record but we are going to not go down easily. [/quote] This certainly remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Guffey' timestamp='1301111530' post='2676724'] nip you at the heels for as long as we want, always being a little irritation that you cant seem to get rid of. [/quote] Congrats on being the toy poodles of CN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirreille Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='janax' timestamp='1301108863' post='2676676'] You could nip at our heels a little bit, but not much else. [/quote] It's what they do. [quote name='janax' timestamp='1301112294' post='2676750'] Congrats on being the toy poodles of CN. [/quote] Funny, I don't recall you making light of GOONS when they talk about all the things they accomplish in the lower tiers. Are GOONS toy poodles too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) Welcome back VE. Edited March 26, 2011 by Achilles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Mirreille' timestamp='1301112840' post='2676764'] Funny, I don't recall you making light of GOONS when they talk about all the things they accomplish in the lower tiers. Are GOONS toy poodles too? [/quote] When GOONS is on the losing end of a war and simply refuses to surrender because they want to continue to go toe to toe with other alliance's newbs, I will say the same thing. I think you'll find I've been more than willing to call GOONS out in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirreille Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Fair enough, but I don't consider Avalon to be 'newbs'. They just happen to like that one particular street corner, and don't like people messing with their turf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stuart Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1301104119' post='2676585'] Warring alliances that do not agree with me politically is not always a giant tech raid, just if they are severely incompetent militarily and internally. Like NADC. [/quote] Good thing that CSN agrees with you politically then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Good work Avalon/NADC. With each declaration against you, the hilarity of this war increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Carnoly Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1301111979' post='2676738'] This certainly remains to be seen. [/quote] please explain to me why there is a need for MK, VE, TOP, FOK, and Umbrella to be on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Carnoly' timestamp='1301115194' post='2676805'] please explain to me why there is a need for MK, VE, TOP, FOK, and Umbrella to be on us. [/quote] I'll go out on a limb and say they probably want to beat the $%&@ out of your alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueski Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Carnoly' timestamp='1301115194' post='2676805'] please explain to me why there is a need for MK, VE, TOP, FOK, and Umbrella to be on us. [/quote] Obviously because you're so intimidating and strike fear into your opponents hearts. There is no other explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 You declared on MK and Umbrella. TOP is top-heavy, so it made sense for alliances with more people in your range to come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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