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Now come here TOP..

A nice war system, but it was pretty much expected.

I cannot find something in the rules about it (but it's late and I skim), but I believe it's against the rules.

Oh lordy what a title.

[quote name='Scorponok' timestamp='1342751593' post='3012437'] We will get sanctioned once we all roll Polar again . Is that okay guys? [/quote] Or you could just put together another super merger. That seemed to work well last time.

[quote name='Timberland' timestamp='1342754179' post='3012451'] He does have a reason to hit PM. He is on our EOG list. [/quote] And he has been for some time correct? If he wanted to dodge war with you guys he would have hit PM long ago.

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1342753127' post='3012445'] I know you're in NpO and therefore have no idea what fundamentals are, but I only hit him today to keep him out of peace mode. I kind of deployed today already. [/quote] He had been at the same NS for six days. The deployed today point? A somewhat legit response. The PM argument? A pretty irrelevant lie. He had no reason to hit PM. I imagine you simply were bored and found his nation and hit the shiny button.

I'm sorry LOLman. Have fun while it lasts. EDIT: [quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1342748244' post='3012405'] You didn't even do full attacks. That speaks for itself [/quote] What's entertaining is that you have 4GCs to his none and still couldn't anarchy him. [i]That[/i] speaks for itself.

Congrats guys!

Fun fun. Good friends there in the Warriors (see what war does)?

GogogoGRL!

Wow, up to 1400 already. Here's to a quick recovery and successful surgery.

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1342472781' post='3010839'] Umbrella in this case is a great example where the "average days in PM" can fall flat on its face. Umbrella has 17% of its nations in PM (only 3 of those in their top 80 nations), yet 70% of those nations have been in PM for more than 30 days which skews the average up. The fact that Umbrella is largely under-engaged means that they don't have any real need to use PM to cycle their nations, which means they have very few sub-7-days-in-PM nations to lower the average. [/quote] While I agree with you that average number of days in PM doesn't tell the whole story, this post illustrates something else. Umbrella puts their lower nations in PM because they are so outnumbered at that range any nations not in PM would be crushed (look at nations who couldn't quite make it to PM when Umbrella declared that Fark got their hands on). Now how is alliances on the SF/XX side hiding their upper tiers in PM different from Umbrella hiding their lower tier in PM? In both cases, the people in PM are there because if they came out, they'd have three nations on them within 48 hours and it'd just be a huge curbstomp that would most likely result in them being staggered for multiple rounds. I understand the "didn't get their beating" argument, and understand it completely, even agree with it. But to take what the losing side is doing and say one thing, then take that same concept that the winning side is using and say another is hypocritical. TLR: (24) 18/4/18/18/5/18/9/1/7/19/18/18/6/18/18/13/16/17/10/12/9/14/2/5 > Average days in peacemode: 10 GOD: (21) 0/0/1/2/1/3/1/11/10/9/1/10/10/10/9/10/3/10/11/11/19 > Average days in peacemode: 7 MK: (41) 5/4/6/15/1/0/15/1/4/9/6/1/8/3/2/1/2/10/18/2/1/5/1/7/12/10/11/12/7/7/1/1/1/8/8/8/2/7/5/8/8 > Average days in peacemode: 6 CSN: (13) 7/3/3/12/8/8/9/2/3/11/2/0/8/ > Average days in peacemode: 6 There's the rebel's original stats with all nations over 20 days in PM removed. Although by doing this, we're just looking at who has longer PM cycles, since this takes out the "hiding" nations.

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1342305519' post='3010261'] And I'm making my return to the show after a several-week hiatus consisting of heavy drug use, my sister's graduation, [b]and a 3-day stint as an ice cream man[/b]. It's funny because I'm 100 percent serious. [/quote] "He was hungry" I laughed so so hard. Good show guys.

You should be fine, a friend of mine created a nation on a network I had been on a lot, and I posted here, and the mods said as long as I didn't login from that same network again, it'd be fine. I would wait for mod confirmation on your specific situation though.

Please post updates to today. I heard a certain alliance might have gotten sanctioned again

Just a point, different computers will not save them, if they are using the same internet router they will have the same IPs.

I love how he's not even gone.

Every alliance has their own policy. This is OP's. And we're cool with that.

Good stats the rebel. Unfortunately the alliances you picked from the SF/XX side aren't the ones that are always at the butt end of PM jokes. I would like to see the numbers for the ones who currently are just to see if there's much merit to them. I'm working on some long term stats, but won't be releasing them until the end of the war. EDIT: Grammar

Not going to lie your Brandon v Liz thing was pretty great a few weeks ago.

[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1342247320' post='3010032'] One Polar nation is the SF side? Not to mention he already did his data... [/quote] Thought about saying it, but didn't. I also said I wonder what their impact would be, not "OMG RUSH IS SKEWING THE DATA BY LEAVING OUT MICROS".

Honorable move going right back in TIO. Good luck PPO!

[quote name='AAAAAAAAAAGGGG' timestamp='1342227194' post='3009916'] This would be pretty impossible to do unless someone had a ton of time, but I'd love to see the average time spent in PM per alliance (and coalition), which would answer the "PM is a tactic" versus "Hiding in PM forever" question. [/quote] Yeah, that would probably involve a script to scan individual nations which would get crazy and most likely increase the server load and be against the rules. Or someone who can scan 5k nations daily. I'd love to see it however. It'd also be best to start at the beginning of the war rather than now. Another option (not sure if this would be statistically correct, but I can't think of anything else) you could track the number of nations in PM per day, count each nation each day as 1 day in peace mode, then at the end of the conflict, look at all nations in the alliance that went to PM some time during the conflict through the individual nation screens and divide total "days" by the number of nations that went to PM sometime during the conflict. I believe that that should give you the average number of days over the course of a war each nation that went to PM was in PM. It doesn't however measure days in a row, which I think is what you want, but average days over the course of the whole war, which could still leave room to argue on how those days were spent.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsG-5abjuYc5dHFOdWZmTmxXVlBOSzB5ZmNTbEJCZWc&output=html Here are the rest of the nations instead of only the top 19. If we combine my numbers with Rush's (minus the ANS, I'm way too lazy to get the stat download) here's what we get. MK and Friends: Total NS Available: 108,539,871+840,634= [b]109,380,505[/b] Total Nations Avai: 2971+74= [b]3045[/b] Total NS in PM : 27,570,052+155,477.621= [b]27,725,529.62[/b] Percent NS in PM : [s]25.4[/s] [b]25.3[/b] Total Nations PM : 748+11= [b]759[/b] Percent Nations PM: [s]25.2[/s] 24.9 ANS of PM Nations : 36,858 ??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SF/XX and friends: Total NS Available: 54,630,081+3,373,923= [b]58,004,004[/b] Total Nations Avai: 2166+261= [b]2427[/b] Total NS in PM : 32,250,626+880,704.583= [b]33,131,330.58[/b] Percent NS in PM : [s]59.0[/s] [b]57.1[/b] Total Nations PM : 871+51= [b]922[/b] Percent Nations PM: [s]40.2[/s] [b]38.0[/b] ANS of PM Nations : 37,027 ??? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some change, but not enough to be majorly significant. Anyway, the numbers aren't incredibly surprising, the coalition that is outnumbered stats wise almost always has a higher PM percentage.