Walshington

I would disagree -- to me, it is the crux of the whole matter. If you antagonize people and have to deal with the consequences, that's one thing. If you've done nothing and are required to apologize and submit to terms -- no matter how benign -- those terms are not, by any definition, fair, and your allies have every reason to be angry about the situation.

Well, obviously I expect you to think so, but you have to judge a man by his own clear facts, not the opinion of the guy he's at war with.

See, I hear you say this: But then I hear Lord Hitchcock say this: The two don't jibe. I'd like to hear an accounting of the clear facts of Scotland's antagonism that was, apparently, agreed to by all parties. I guess any of the stakeholders can deliver, since they all agreed, but I'd like to hear from Hitchcock since he acted on them.

Well, what I asked for before:

Maybe you could elucidate on that for those of us who are curious but a bit to lazy to search the logs.

I don't have time to read all the ridiculous log dumps, so someone in the know calibrate me, because this is what I have so far: 1. MInc wants to disband Scotland for: -poor choice of tech trade partners -trying to form a micro-bloc with people who have been enemies of MInc in the past 2. Hartfw somehow ends up hosting a peace talk, the end of which results in Scotland not being disbanded in exchange for: -No joining a bloc for 6 months -Reevaluating their tech partners -Apologizing to MInc fpr their transgressions 3. MInc denies that the disbanding attempt was "for reals" 4. Junka is unhappy with brokered deal. accuses Cowboys of taking MInc's side 5. Sengoku feels insulted, MInc attacks SNX in violation of NAP with VG 6. SNX declares on MInc and Sengoku That about the size of it?

Good times. For those who missed our epic clash:

Yeah, this one is hard to hail.

Got to give credit where it's due. You have been deemed legitimate by the only planet Bob entity with the authority to do so, granted by Oculus itself. o7

Actually, CA declared on them. May or may not change your premise, I'm not really paying attention anymore.

Sounds like SOMEone replies quickly, and is likely a poor magician.

No no, not the alliance follows him mindlessly, but that he is seen as the face of the alliance and what he says is taken as representative of that alliance.

The stuff people say about Oculus now, while true, is the same stuff they were saying about DBDC a couple years ago, and NPO before that. Something will happen to shake things up, if we have the time left.

To be fair, isn't there an entire thread elsewhere that states that people like most of MI6, but they're fighting all of them because of stuff Chim says?

It's easier to pronounce, and quicker for him to type.

Please do not clutter the OWF with reasonable posts.

Or maybe this one, less pessimistically:

Probably for a lot of reasons, but loving a certain gravelly-voiced crooner is not one of them.

What, not a single comment on the appropriate respective size of the flags? Why do I even post here...?

The more the pageantry, the greater the opportunity for ranklement.

This is not the kind of contribution I was hoping for from you. What, has MSPaint been broken for the last few wars?

See, when I saw the above, I thought you were taking a chance to score a little dig on Kashmir in a public forum based on some recent internal strife. I thought that probably you didn't know all the people who were in Kashmir, and still decided to single one out as "the last good remaining member". Coupled with that fact that you referred to him by the wrong name (I mean, I know Lysergic may me synonymous, I've just never heard him called that by anyone but you, right here. "Lyser" I've heard -- like Meth, it is a natural shortening of his real name. But Lysergic? Never heard it.), it seemed like you were taking a cheap shot without really knowing what you were talking about. Then I learned this: Now that I know "Lysergic" is easier to pronounce (I guess you say it out loud as you type it) AND it saves you from typing one extra letter ("Lysergide" is 9 letters, "Lysergic" is 8), I see my fears were unfounded. Consider my comments retracted.