Hydro

PM nation if interested. [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=311917"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=311917[/url]

Willing to go to whatever color the circle is based on.

Would you be interested in joining a circle on brown [color=#1C2837][size=2]Lord Fingolfin? We literally only need your resources and the circle has been operating for over 1/2 a year.[/size][/color]

Simple enough. I send 3 mil and you send 100 back. Deal should take 30 days. I will not do business with peoples in NONE or in micro-alliances that lack a protectorate from an established alliance. edit: PM my nation if interested: [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=311917"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=311917[/url] I do not look at this forum much.

Why is this not a DoW?

You know it's funny that there would be so much international condemnation directed toward the Gremlins over their decision to remain at war. It has to be a first for an alliance that has essentially acted honorably to be the subject of such vitriol. They have acted in an upright manner (No spying, hacking etc.) and yet simply because they choose to be the masters of their own foreign policy, a mob has descended upon them to throw rubbish and refuse at them, as if they were some sort of criminal organization for staying true to their ideals. Where most seem to see a group of villains, I see a stalwart, close-knit alliance standing firm and true, despite an incredible amount of opposition. In the spirit of standing firm and not bending your back to outside pressure, I salute you Gremlins. o/ Gremlins

Dunno about anyone else, but I'm a bit perplexed as to why VE gives a damn what GGA thinks of them. I mean really, if you know they're being mismanaged and have big internal issues why care if they are issuing private threats toward you? It's not like they have a hope in hell of acting upon those threats. For me this just seems like a non-sequitur issue. I'm not saying this was a brilliant move by JB, but I find your presence in this thread rather odd: you've come off as an overall respectful bunch of people, so why stupe to this level, for GGA of all people?

Congratulations FP. I doubt you're going to have an issue with economic buildup: your alliance's aid screen contain's a who's who of alliances, with most of the big alliances represented. The only issue being that your alliance needs more aid slots utilized, but I'm sure GOONS will help you figure that out. Good luck!

[quote name='ShinRa' date='26 May 2010 - 12:07 PM' timestamp='1274897240' post='2312493'] You're confusing Pacifican and Voxican traditions there. And you're also admitting you have no reason or right to post in here. You also appear to be following another great Pacifican pastime of making !@#$ up without any foreknowledge, experience or right to say such things and calling it the truth. Though that might just their historians i'm thinking of here. [/quote] I'm a Pacifican and I peed in your cereal. True story.

There is no such thing as an invalid CB, hence this topic being pointless. There are, however, CB's that are less popular then others. The fixation in this game for "paper wars," where only alliances with treaties with each other can fight in a war is absurd. As a sovereign, independent alliance you have every right to enter into a war, with or without a treaty by virtue of the fact that you, and you alone, are the ultimate controller of your military forces. The need to legitimize your actions via a treaty, be it an ODP or anything else, is simply not necessary.

[quote name='Cortath' date='23 May 2010 - 01:22 PM' timestamp='1274642508' post='2309307'] Welcome to CyberNations, and welcome to the Red Sphere! I look forward to working with your alliance to further relations on the Red Team. [/quote] Oooh more red nations! Welcome FP to CN and congrats on getting out a constitution! As for the unfortunate little event that seems to be developing, maybe we should all take a step back and reconsider the context. FP is a brand new alliance with most of their membership having NO idea about the social norms that we, as a community, have established. Give them some time and a bit of patience and I'm sure they'll fit in just fine: ridiculing them like you are though is a great way to alienate them and give them good cause to just leave the Cyberverse, which is something that nobody wants. In short, have some patience people.

[quote name='flak attack' date='21 May 2010 - 08:55 AM' timestamp='1274453712' post='2306932'] Chickenzilla - Joined Vanguard, then MK as a result of the merge. Holds no official position. [/quote] You forgot his short tenure in NSO, which he used to get off the ZI lists.

Seriously? Aluminum and pigs are probably the best combo I've ever gotten LOL

I can get used to this.

[quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' date='20 May 2010 - 11:42 AM' timestamp='1274377338' post='2305377'] C'mon Hydro. We got to give him a chance to. It's a two way street. Got to meet in the middle as they say. [/quote] That was my middle ground. If I was in any other alliance, I'd probably content myself to post a giant flaming middle finger and be done with it. [color=#1C2837][font=arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=2][quote]Also, have we met before? No offence but [b]most Pacificans have very little to differentiate themselves from other members of the Order[/b].[/quote][/size][/font][/color] [color=#1C2837][font=arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=2] [/size][/font][/color] [color=#1C2837][font=arial, verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=2]Not to my knowledge. You couldn't be further from the truth either: in an alliance of 600 members there is an enormous deviation between one Pacifican from the next. Seriously, it does you an injustice to think of us all as mindless drones slaving under an evil Overmind. Look beyond the propaganda of a year ago, and I promise that you'll find we're not half as bad as you might think. On a personal note, if I thought that Pacifica was the Pacifica it was a year ago, I would not be here.[/size][/font][/color]

Looking to buy at a rate of 3/100. Contact me via my nation if you're a seller: [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=311917"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=311917[/url]

[quote name='ShinRa' date='20 May 2010 - 11:12 AM' timestamp='1274375556' post='2305335']And yes, I still regard you as having dome far more damage to Bob than you have paid for. [b]And that last statement just re-enforces my previous posts, if you prove me wrong over the coming months, years or whatnot then I will stop holding the past against you.[/b] [/quote] Forgive me if I don't hold my breath. You've spent the last 10 pages railing on us, all the while our Emperor has offered you a cup of tea and you've done everything short of throwing it right back into his face. Who knows, maybe we might surprise you if you gave us a chance, but given your conduct in this thread, I don't foresee that happening...ever.

[center][img]http://pacificorder.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/2ytqyqh.png[/img] Very sexy [img]http://pacificorder.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/2ytqyqh.png[/img][/center]

I didn't bother to read this thread after the first page, but from what I've seen, teamcoltra is an absolute donkey's behind. In any case, good luck ADI in dealing with the trash both inside and outside this thread.

I'm surprised nobody has said the duck person yet or Z'ha.

nvm

[quote name='heggo' date='21 March 2010 - 02:20 PM' timestamp='1269206392' post='2232393'] I don't understand this doctrine. Is there any alliance out there anymore that actually thinks they have the right to ban people from their color sphere? Is there any anybody that considers themselves to be hostile toward another alliance before they do anything to them? [/quote] Maybe someone from GGA could elaborate on this, but I believe this thread is leveled at criticism of JB in the last GGA thread, where it was found he was complicit in one of GGA's policies in that past, which was designed to rid the green sphere of other alliances. Assuming I'm correct, then this would be an official response to that criticism and be indicative of a positive change occurring within the GGA. Should that be the case, I for one approve and find the criticism of this policy to be largely manufactured. Didn't think I'd ever be saying this, but grats GGA?

In order to have a negative or positive position, you have to accept a moral position, and thus a Moral standard. This is precisely what you've done and that is why your argument is fundamentally flawed. If you cared about someones ability to develop and mantain their "own set standard" you would not be critiquing Polaris for enforcing their own moral code. That's the beauty and the very essense of the moral freedom which you pretend to espouse, but are realistically diametrically opposed to. Granted, I don't pretend to be in favor for said freedom either, but I'm also not the one hiding behind a false shroud of pseudo moral freedom.

[quote name='Corinan' date='17 March 2010 - 07:33 PM' timestamp='1268879898' post='2228849'] Do something about it for once in your life. [/quote] Takes balls to do something...[img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/smug.gif[/img]

This thread lacks Doppelganger oO also o/