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rofl I liked the VE flag upside down

grats on attacking a 13 man aa? moving on to relevancy and out of this thread...

[quote name='Fronz' timestamp='1296536231' post='2613986'] In that case, I demand a DT vs CSN diplomacy and/or melee game be put in as a surrender term. [/quote] Calling obs on the diplomacy game, even though the 1v1 will probably be n00b lolz

[quote name='Earogema' timestamp='1296603424' post='2615212'] Only an idiot who tried to do this before would...oh right. [/quote] Bout time someone finally said it lol

Ganking people is always fun the first few times. After that, it just gets lame.

[quote name='Rocky Horror' timestamp='1296473236' post='2612852'] NPO's side had 2mil NS on us as of the day the !@#$sphere massed on GOONS. Whenever MK's in a war, it has to be a curbstomp. Fight a defensive war against TOP, taking the hits from the greatest upper tier in the game's history and holding out long enough to force a surrender? Curbstomp. Fight on the smaller side of a war and win because the other side abandons its lower tiers? Curbstomp. If MK wins, it has to be because it had three times as many nations as the opposition, it certainly couldn't be because they're a strong, effective alliance, because that would be ridiculous. [/quote] My comment had nothing to do with MK? I think you're getting too reactionary from all the detractors.

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1296420439' post='2611437'] Really? So let's look at the numbers. You attack the the weakest alliance in the Doom House coalition, GOONS, an alliance with a staggering 13k ANS and 900 nukes but you leave the two biggest alliances (Umbrella and MK) who have 90k ANS/2000 nukes and 50k ANS/3000 nukes respectively, the ones that will do the most damage to the NPO (the alliance you swore to protect), virtually untouched? Why? You wonder why everyone considers [b]your side[/b] to be a side composed of paper tigers. This is why. I think I can speak for a lot of people when I say, is this the best you guys can do? [/quote] What side? This is little more then a glorified curbstomp of one of the larger alliances in game. You make it out to sound as if you're fighting some grand coalition, but the simple answer is that you are not. NPO was never able to gather an actual base around it after Karma, aside from a few small, choice alliances, which realistically should go to show how powerless they have since become. edit: ah right, 2 glorified curbstomps at once, my bad

[quote name='Karolina' timestamp='1296323873' post='2609639'] 3 alliances actually, and none of us are irrelevant. [/quote] Sorry, but you are small beans compared to what MHA is capable of engaging.

Biggest alliance in game attacks 2 irrelevant alliances. Enter care cup.

[quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1296026366' post='2602362'] No disrespect, but you clearly haven't been paying attention. NpO and STA, among others, have been working around the clock to keep NPO out of the war, so that they could fight another day when the odds are more favourable. NSO did the exact same thing in August. If we hadn't attacked, NPO would never have entered the war and they'd have stayed out of any future possibility of a war, rebuilding, picking up allies, and waiting to drive a wedge between us and our allies.[/quote] I very much doubt this. After being in NPO for a while, I got the distinct impression that NPO did not want anything to do with NpO and the feelings seemed very mutual in the embassy conversations that occured between both parties. [quote]There are those of us who know that NPO is the exact same alliance and would not hesitate to act as they did again, if only they had the power. We cannot allow this to happen, hence the declaration of war. One only needs to look at things like the attempted reinstatement of the Revenge Doctrine and refusing to sanction rogues to see this. NPO did not pay for their crimes against MK and FAN in Karma. Just because some other people attacked you and won doesn't mean we're satisfied and willing to give you a clean slate.[/quote] For the year in which NPO was held by the balls, it makes sense that they might try and gleam a little bit of power. What you saw as the NPO trying to fall back into old ways, was more likely the NPO trying to re-assert itself as someone worthy of respect, but only after they had been humbled and made amends for past wrongs. The response from Karma and now this GOONsie coalition was to continue to ruthlessly crush the NPO, because of imagined slights and fictional threats. [quote]We agree with your idea, and have always agreed with it. There should never be a "hegemony" that behaves the same way NPO did in back rooms when PR wasn't an issue. In any case, NPO will no longer be the hated enemy of MK that it is after this war. After this war, our bloodlust will be satiated and we will have had our revenge. Perhaps then MK and those of you who are members of NPO now can shake hands and bury the hatchet. [/quote] I heard these comments during Karma too. You will never be rid of your hatred of NPO, no matter how many times you try to curbstomp them. I must say, I didn't anticipate coming out in defence of the NPO so strongly. Realistically, my time with them was distasteful for me and I can't say it did much for me in being in the NPO. But that said, the allegations you are making against them are simply not true.

I don't understand what has happened here. Did they just declare war on NPO with the casus belli of the NpO is protecting the NPO?

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Both alliances are fairly despicable. They deserve each other.

[quote name='Sigrun Vapneir' timestamp='1294987582' post='2574837'] I see unimpeachable evidence that one nation carried out a spy attack. I have seen nothing to even suggest that MFO endorsed or encouraged it, however. It's not all that hard to arrange for a single nation to commit an act of war under the flag of any alliance against any other alliance. It is the custom to respond to rogue attacks with a *narrow* military response - NOT a blitz on the entire originating alliance, and to allow diplomacy a chance to work, for a reason. The alternative is that every alliance can find itself at war at any moment, with no warning, because of a single rogue attack (whether the work of foreign agents or not) that they did nothing to encourage and could not possibly have stopped. I've always been fond of FAN, and the "Guns for Tots" program is truly praiseworthy. But blitzing an entire alliance over a rogue attack without even giving them a chance to deal with it? That is a precedent in no ones interest. [/quote] So? Nobody has to follow customs if they don't want to.

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Crush both alliances Laugh ???? Profit!

You're surprised [b]Silence[/b] has remained fairly [b]silent[/b]? Oh, the terrible jokes to be had

[quote name='quigon jinn' timestamp='1285959175' post='2471285'] The gameplay is lame. Impossible to catch up in any significant fashion unless you want to devote years to CN. No end game. No punishment to "bad" players at high levels with only age being the reason they got there; if skill was required to maintain a 20k infra nation or risk bill lock/etc this would create a much more competition friendly environment. Now all you have to do is log in once every 20 (or even 25) days, click "pay bills" and "colllect taxes" and you are good to go. No huge reward for people who are active every 10 minutes vs 20 days and certainly no punishment. The "reward" is that after several years you will perhaps be ahead of them. [/quote] This is quite literally what I do, and I have a very nice nation imo. And it really isn't fair that I should have to put so little into my nation, and yet be so vastly ahead of everyone else.

[quote name='Branimir' timestamp='1293032184' post='2550027'] Nice curbstomp. [/quote] It took 8 pages for someone to say this? Eesh...

Who gives a hoot? Most alliances in this game are terribad anyways.

Who cares? Make an announcement that means something next time.

I wonder if those freedom fighters labelled "nuclear rogues" will be afforded the same opportunities as everyone else to use this channel and benefit from temp trades off of it?

Dunno why you'd agree to anything with these scuzbags but hey your idiotic move to make. I wish I could wish you gl with this endeavour etc. etc. but tbh I'd rather just see GATO die in a fire. Cheers!

You got attacked by a CN pirate and this makes anyone care why?

Oh yay. Prepare yourself for all NSO announcement to be massive wall-o-text's. [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif[/img]