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Probably, and you would have a point if we had any intention of trying to portray this as anything more than temporary, or even designed specifically as a PR move. As it stands this policy directly influences several internal programs and directives. But, nevertheless thank you for your kind consideration and concern in regard to our PR efforts.

Congratulations, it's well deserved, and as always the artistic flare of your announcements are a welcome distraction.

[quote name='Jacapo Saladin' date='19 April 2010 - 10:28 PM' timestamp='1271734107' post='2267334'] Don't Question him! If you anger him he will attack you in a "duel". (Note: you must fit the following categories for him to agree to duel you: you are smaller than him, don't have a warchest, don't know how the war system works, and do not have an MP) [/quote] M6 was a rogue against \m/. He is a very fine fighter, has absolutely no fear of nukes, had no problems attacking up in his raids against us, many of them long time \m/ nations, nations hat has been with us for some time long before our formal founding. He faired exceedingly well in our alliance conflicts. If we had a formal award system, he would be well decorated indeed. So please, before you taunt, realize he is quite willing to if we gave the order.

[quote name='MNNorthStars' date='19 April 2010 - 01:09 AM' timestamp='1271657379' post='2265997'] Well if they were to sign with IRON and be obligated to hit GRE... [/quote] So you think it's a good idea to sign a treaty with an alliance already at war, and then use that treaty to enter that war? That worked out exceedingly well for Fark and LUE in The Great War 2

No, you are not the reason this policy was enacted.

[quote name='Boogeyman657' date='18 April 2010 - 09:33 PM' timestamp='1271644376' post='2265705'] [color="#FFFF00"][font="Comic Sans MS"]Now I could stop ghosting TPF and move to None.[/font][/color] [/quote] Yellow and Comic Sans? I despise you more than anyone on bob for that alone.

BAPS and Valhalla are amongst the finest warriors that I have fought. It was an honor to see such loyalty and valor to each other, even if it was in opposition.

Despite your brave talk and well meaning intentions, you're advocating that nations retaliate with undue force, and thus likely to result in the raided nation being declared rogue by any sensible alliance, opening them selves to possible ZI and sanctions. So, please, before you go around trumpeting how hard core people should be, maybe you hould think through the full implications of a "Nuke first, question later" mentality.

I was joking. All government has read and weighed in on this charter. We are confident in it's ability to provide a fair and just rule to our alliance.

Glad to know this group of peace loving hippies just out and admits that they support nuclear escalation.

And yet you have no problem attacking nations who raid, nations who may very well be just as ignorant as the people they are attacking. In many, many ways you may be causing what you hope to prevent, by aiding and/or attacking low level nations who are ignorant that they are "guilty" of such a heinous crime.

Indeed, we create excessively long documents so we have plausible deniability should we fark it up

If only there was someone who could, likewise, tell [I]you[/I] to take your stupid ideas off the board. But, no, that would be rude of [I]anyone[/I] to up and decide which ideas are worth hearing publicly. Hell, you haven't even bothered much to understand why this was made public, let alone to be able to sit back and view this in an unbiased light. So, please, let me put forth some things for your kind, and noble consideration: this is a public apology to one of our allies, and an olive branch towards one of our historical rivals, all happening in a public forum that can be easily referred to dispell any misconcenptions that could arise should private channels be taken. If you think this is a foolish maneuver considering our past experience with private channels means your naive, or being willfully difficult for the sake of taking shots at us.

[quote name='SoADarthCyfe6' date='04 April 2010 - 02:40 PM' timestamp='1270413622' post='2247801'] Perhaps you will follow your own charter this time? It may be a good idea... [/quote] Yes, because clearly we received the worst end of the deal the last time our charter was called into question, and it ended exceedingly well for those who chose to meddle. Now, with that in mind, may I suggest something? I would humbly suggest those who want to posture at our expense to keep it to them selves, as I'm quite positive there are exceedingly few alliances that has never made a questionable decision in their time, and I'm quite confident people are more willing to learn from their actions when they don't have a gaggle of monkeys bringing out stuff that has been resolved for a long time now.

[quote name='KingHippo' date='25 February 2010 - 03:33 PM' timestamp='1267133812' post='2203540'] \m/, PC, Nord, DT, and FAN, it's been a blast warring with you... you're among the best i've ever met on the battlefield, and i'll be licking my wounds for some time to come. o/ Peace [/quote] You, the other Valhalla nation, and the BAPS nations were some awesome fighters. It was a pleasure to war you all.

The mega peace thread concluded the only remaining fronts \m/ was still fighting in this war, and unless Rok calls upon us, we have intention of rejoining this conflict; so feel free to remove us from the war list for now.

Hmmm, if I see any in the STL area I'll have to give it a try. Well done on the beer review, if only we were all so lucky to be forced to drink delicious beer as part of surrender

Aye, Polaris was great fun. Teaming up with MegaAros and Druss the Legend was amazing fun. TPF was a glorified tech piñata in my NS range.

Who cares if it's the same war or not? A week ago we were at war, and 2 before that we were in an entirely seperate war. It's getting a little silly with how much combat testing we're getting.

Indeed. I had served in various government positions in various alliances. But so far as this conversation is concerned, at the time of the Karma war I was a member of Fark, and Fark happened to be intimately involved in the TOP/IRON reps dispute that originated in the Karma war. Not to mention I'm also gov of \m/, and happen to have been so since the second reformation, and so I'm not totally ignorant of some of the behind the scenes machinations of this war. And quite simply, a sphere wide conspiracy is one of the most laughable things I have heard. Except Pigs and Water. In short, No u. Also: you offer to explain this all to me, and then turn around in the same sentence and say that you won't because I am a nobody? Have you been taking notes from Grub on how to be bipolar? Or is it just the close proximity to Polar nations rubbing off?

Except I'm fairly certain that Krack, Arcturus Jefferson, and I are trying to have a conversation about TOPs roll and certain ex Gremlins leadership. No one else in Lux Aeterna. But since you decided to bring up Lux Aeterna and her allies, let me help you undertand exactly why so many people, notably ex government and other vocal members, were so concerned over the whole ordeal: The Superfriends bloc is not a bloc founded on stat collecting or maintenance of peace. The Superfriends was forged from the fires of Farks Holy War as a treaty written in blood between three incredibly close friends. The Superfriends mantra is to always have anothers backs in their hour of need, support when they're against the wall and swinging against a alliance over twice their size. The Superfriends isn't a MDAP bloc. It's a Death Cult. And so to have IRON, who hit a Superfriends signatory and then try to demand white peace, while ex grem gov came to Fark and tried to say that because grem deigned enter this war on the side of Farkistan, that we essentially owe them, and that we should forego reps on our own part, reps that would as most repair [I]a mere fraction[/I] damage caused by a alliance who hit one of our closest brothers. Know what I say to that? To hell with it! Now, I'm sorry Lux Aterna has been broken twice now in two major wars; how ever that has little bearing or significance to anyone outside that bloc, and you can not expect us to seriously consider "but...but...our bloc!" as sufficient reasoning to say we did not have valid concerns, And that this was seemingly supported by the actions of several members, some of them gov and some ex-gov, of TOP, IRON, and Gre gave valid pause and concern to a very large portion of your so called brothers in arms in Karma.

Alright, that's reasonable enough. Happy hunting, gentlemen.

[quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' date='09 February 2010 - 12:45 AM' timestamp='1265697934' post='2170188'] This just isn't true. We went full nukes on both of them. [/quote] Unfortunatly, I do not believe that is what he's trying to convey, as the fact as to whether TOP exchanged nukes is beyond question. What is up for debate how ever is wether TOP would have gone nuclear if BAPS and OMFG had restrained them selves. I believe this to be the case my self, and if true does put TOP in the precarious situation of having seemingly worked to avoid a nuclear exchange upon their alliance, while the allies of TOP willingly embraced the fires of that war with little incident.

[quote name='Inferno' date='08 February 2010 - 11:25 PM' timestamp='1265693117' post='2169961'] well this is cristal clear to me. NpO have this very well planed. with STA and others from the Blue sphere for destroy and desestabilize the dominium of Aqua and Orange. they was and have resentemet becose Karma war an others ones. Andd for SURE the destroy of "The Citadel" i think they do it pretty well... (irony) So... you can trust in NpO and hes plot companions ? not at all. Not anymore You can trust in STA and hes plot companions ? no at all i never do. the show hes trully faces. They backstab who trust thems... (not me btw) They are the evil? yes they are. This atrocitys need to be punished. And Aqua and Orange spheres need to be healed ? yes need to be. And all the responsibles of this acts need to be passed by fusilade platoon asap. GRUB included. final side note: "you can blame an scorpion for stinging ? No, becose is in hes nature"... [/quote] I have no clue exactly what you just babbled about, but from what I can gather, it's a conspiracy theory that centers around blue taking down orange and aqua. A worthy effort, and I must commend you on sharing a rather fresh and exciting tin foil plot, I'm afraid this set of drama were experiencing has it's roots in the mundane and petty, not the clear planning and organization needed to pull off such an outrageous plan.

And how many attempts were made to attempt to maintain a clear line of dialogue between GR and Polaris after these myriad disccusions of wether you're communicating enough? Because all the discussions in the world does little to resolve the fact that a close MDoAP partner apparently drifted away from you so easily. And if genuine attempts were made, how many private disccusions amongst your selves did you hold to determine when the magical cut off number was to consider all your private conversations to be for naught in rekindling your old love?