Scottish Ultimatum

[Proxian Empire]

The military base's purpose is not to solely protect the diplomatic base. Louisiana has never stated that it's new land is a diplomatic outpost, we suggest you get your facts from someone that doesn't reside in your nether region.

** Classified ***

Two carrier battle groups, four submarines, and 400,000 men are en route to Louisiana's new holdings. In addition, 30 fighter squads and 20 bomber squads have flown ahead to the new holdings.

OOC: Happy?

OOC: Seriously, why the hell would any sane person move 400,000 troops into a tiny military base across an ocean unless they wanted to start a war?

Not only that I am disputing this amount. That is ridiculous, there is no way you have moved that many troops in a single day let alone fit them all onto transport craft. Your roleplay is impossible.

[Lavo]

OOC: How can you fit that many in such a small space?

[SpacingOutMan]

***Classified to the Rebel Army***

The United Mechodamian States currently has a portion of our fleet in the eastern Atlantic along with the Mediterranean. We can assist in the closure of the straits along with assisting in routine checks or bypassing ships. Should any Rebel Army property be damaged, we will activate the defensive clause of the Aphrike Treaty and assist militarily.

***Classified to the Italian Federation***

Should the Louisianian base be closed off from supplies, we offer assistance in supplying the base with essentials such as food, water, and clothing.

[SpacingOutMan]

OOC: How can you fit that many in such a small space?

OOC: Army of anorexic midgets perhaps?

[Voodoo Nova]

"While the act of transferring land through legal means is not a hostile act in a region, putting military troops within that region of which you are not geographically native to can be considered hostile. If you think back in history, there have been many attempts at colonizing, purchasing and using land as military bases to exert some amount of influence in that geographic region's affairs. The amount of influence exerted is dependent upon many factors, however, simply having troops exerts foreign influence, whether directly or indirectly and as dictated in European history, has been fought against.

When Dranagg entered European soil, there was an uproar in Europe. There was a united Europe against foreign influence and troops, and that incident led to the creation of the Wawel Doctrine by the now defunct Polish-Czechoslovakian Commonwealth. Right now Europe is experience a new type of invasion. This invasion may be defined as a legal land transfer, but with it's ability to influence through force, Europe's territory is being invaded. Europe should not tolerate foreign troops entering Europe, just like any other continent in this world."

[Bacharth]

OOC: How can you fit that many in such a small space?

That area is about the size of the greater new york city metro area or L.A. That can definitely hold 400k people :v.

[Lavo]

***Classified to the Rebel Army***

The United Mechodamian States currently has a portion of our fleet in the eastern Atlantic along with the Mediterranean. We can assist in the closure of the straits along with assisting in routine checks or bypassing ships. Should any Rebel Army property be damaged, we will activate the defensive clause of the Aphrike Treaty and assist militarily.

***Classified to UMS***

Your support in this matter, both morally and materially, is greatly appreciated. Though, unless Norway and/or PEPTO cause an uproar, we do not foresee any problems with the possible closure of the Straits, due to the three CVBGs stationed there. If we require any assistance, we will not hesitate to call upon yourselves.

[comrade nikonov]

Federal Union of the Slavic Republics Announcement

We support our allies, the Iberian Pact, in this ultimatum.

"Europe is for Europeans,

Europe is our home,

and all other rats should be driven out."

-Old Revolutionary Saying.

//Classified

The returning Antarctic Flotilla has been returned to home port in Ventspils.

Defcon in U.R. Moldova has been raised to 2. Defcon in U.R. Belarus has been raised to 3. Defcon in Ventspils has been raised to 1.

Nuclear forces in U.R. Belarus are at Orange. Nuclear forces in U.R. Moldova are at Orange. Nuclear Naval forces are at Red.

Strategic Defense Initiative Readiness has been raised to 1.

[Michael McBride]

**CLASSIFIED**

In light of the growing conflict in the Med, the Federation has given orders to recall the battleships currently stationed in Guam. The INS Scythe, INS Rapier, INS Shamshir, and the INS Gladius all left port at Guam and were making full steam to Rome. Rebel Army would be notified when the four ships needed to pass through the Suez Canal.

[loannes]

OOC: Seriously, why the hell would any sane person move 400,000 troops into a tiny military base across an ocean unless they wanted to start a war?

Not only that I am disputing this amount. That is ridiculous, there is no way you have moved that many troops in a single day let alone fit them all onto transport craft. Your roleplay is impossible.

OOC: Well, you ARE threatening him...

Also, logistics are meh. More like lolgistics :v

IC:

**Classified**

The 350,000 Caucasian troops and all assisting armor in Greenland has been loaded onto transports and is en route back to the Mediterranean.

**Classified to Italian Federation**

"We request permission to dock in Italian ports and base our troops on your installations, provided you have space available."

[Michael McBride]

OOC: Well, you ARE threatening him...

Also, logistics are meh. More like lolgistics :v

IC:

**Classified**

The 350,000 Caucasian troops and all assisting armor in Greenland has been loaded onto transports and is en route back to the Mediterranean.

**Classified to Italian Federation**

"We request permission to dock in Italian ports and base our troops on your installations, provided you have space available."

**CLASSIFIED**

Permission granted. Genoa, Rome, and Livorno are all available for you to dock at. The military and civilian leadership in those areas have been told to make ready for your arrival. Coordinates for openings in the sea wall in those areas will be forwarded to you as you get closer.

[Yawoo]

OOC: Seriously, why the hell would any sane person move 400,000 troops into a tiny military base across an ocean unless they wanted to start a war?

Not only that I am disputing this amount. That is ridiculous, there is no way you have moved that many troops in a single day let alone fit them all onto transport craft. Your roleplay is impossible.

OOC: I never stated that I moved that many troops in a single day, I said they were en-route to my holdings. My role play isn't impossible, you're just throwing a hissy fit because I haven't left yet. If you still feel my move is un-just, I suggest you bring it to the GM's attention now.

[Sargun II]

The Sarnungian Republic issues a declaration of support for Louisiana. There are no people being treated unjustly, what few people were there were fairly compensated, and the land was turned over legally and without dispute. A pre-emptive strike is sometimes necessary but only if there is proof - solid proof, mind you - that a wrong will be committed by the offending party and the only way to stop it is to strike.

If this were an issue of colonialism, we would support Scotland. However, it is not, and thus we support Louisiana. Our territorial waters are open to any ships supporting Louisiana, and if needed Louisiana can land on one side, quickly transport troops across to the other side, and we will ferry them into Louisianian territory. Furthermore, we will be conducting constant patrols by F-45A squadrons over our territorial waters and international waters and with permission of Louisiana, over Louisianian territory.

[Yawoo]

The Sarnungian Republic issues a declaration of support for Louisiana. There are no people being treated unjustly, what few people were there were fairly compensated, and the land was turned over legally and without dispute. A pre-emptive strike is sometimes necessary but only if there is proof - solid proof, mind you - that a wrong will be committed by the offending party and the only way to stop it is to strike.

If this were an issue of colonialism, we would support Scotland. However, it is not, and thus we support Louisiana. Our territorial waters are open to any ships supporting Louisiana, and if needed Louisiana can land on one side, quickly transport troops across to the other side, and we will ferry them into Louisianian territory. Furthermore, we will be conducting constant patrols by F-45A squadrons over our territorial waters and international waters and with permission of Louisiana, over Louisianian territory.

Louisiana thanks the Sarnungian Republic for their assistance. Louisiana would be delighted if the Sarnungian Republic could patrol over Louisianan held Mediterranean territory, we only ask that they co-ordinate patrols with Louisiana once Louisianan aircrafts reach the territory.

[loannes]

"Caucasia officially announces their support for Louisiana. We'll defend them if they're attacked. This is not a colony. This is not an aggressive Louisianan action. This is a military and diplomatic base signed over by mutual consent. We ask that Scotland revoke their Ultimatum."

-HRH King James II

[DeSchaine]

OOC: It can be done, but it would take a long time and be kinda difficult. It's the same as moving every single active duty enlisted soldier in the US Army. (Right now, that's +/- 450K people)

My question is, how much higher does that number actually go when you factor in support crews for the 50 squadrons of aircraft he mentioned? Can you actually fit all the planes, equipment, people and tanks into that area?

[Ezequiel]

Rebel Army notes that the moment war breaks out, all involved parties will be barred access through the Gibraltar Straits and Suez Canal. That is all.

We back up this statement, shall war break out Spain will close the Unity Bridge to all military personnel. All civilians trying to cross will be checked for weapons, drugs and explosives, if all checks in correctly, they will be aloud to pass if the Rebel Army allows.

We also repond to the assertion that we will let them starve. How can anyone starve when there are no civilians on the land anymore? Louisiana deported them."

No civilians have been deported by Spain nor Louisiana. All citizens, business or other wise, have been compensated to move and will be aided until proper housing, jobs and food is provided with out Government aid.

An aggressive nation like Louisiana who seeks to colonise Europe is certainly not welcome.

Louisiana has shown no sign of aggression to Spain or Iberia as a whole.

Correction: Spain deported the civilians.

As we have stated above, no civilians have been deported. All citizens, business or other wise, have been compensated to move and will be aided until proper housing, jobs and food is provided with out Government aid.

The Republic of Spain would like to state again. We are neutral in this matter, no Louisiana or Scotland military will be aloud to pass through land, air or water that is owned by Spain, any attempts will be shot down or meet with arrests or hostility to defend Spain.

Alejandro commented.

OOC: *EDIT* Typos.

Edited January 13, 2010 by Ezequiel

[Voodoo Nova]

OOC: It can be done, but it would take a long time and be kinda difficult. It's the same as moving every single active duty enlisted soldier in the US Army. (Right now, that's +/- 450K people)

My question is, how much higher does that number actually go when you factor in support crews for the 50 squadrons of aircraft he mentioned? Can you actually fit all the planes, equipment, people and tanks into that area?

OOC: It's more around 900k.

[Mergerberger II]

RSSN Movements

With the sudden realization by the Revolutionary Navy Department of Logistics that Scotland is literally right next to the RSSN (durr hurr), the ships formerly protecting supply lines into Scotland have been called into port. Five submarines and four battleships have also been called into port before reaching Scotland. Supply lines will continue and the movement of troops into Northern Scotland will continue. Four submarines and five battleships will continue to patrol Northern Scotland.

The Revolutionary Navy has been dispatched to the coast of the Iberian Peninsula. This includes the entire Navy minus several Cruisers. They are moving to near Iberia to intercept the Louisiana Navy and turn them back. They have been given explicit orders to not fire any weapons on the enemy, however a show of force is authorized. They are to not allow Louisiana to enter the strait or move troops into their enclave in Iberia.

The Navy is going to meet up with a Carrier dispatch from the FUSR and work to disallow the Louisiana Navy from supplying their enclave with soldiers. Supplies will be allowed through, however any armed vessel carrying military personnel or paraphernalia will not be permitted.

[comrade nikonov]

//Classified

The Federal Union of the Slavic Republics recently agreed to commit three of our six carriers to the situation in Iberia. The Mogilev, Brest, and Homel have left port in Ventspils for Amsterdam.

[Proxian Empire]

The Scottish government agrees to negotiate this issue in a neutral location to resolve this matter peacefully. Following claims by the Louisianan government that they are reasonable, we would hope you will agree.

Edited January 13, 2010 by King Penchuk

[Kevin Kingswell]

RSSN Movements

With the sudden realization by the Revolutionary Navy Department of Logistics that Scotland is literally right next to the RSSN (durr hurr), the ships formerly protecting supply lines into Scotland have been called into port. Five submarines and four battleships have also been called into port before reaching Scotland. Supply lines will continue and the movement of troops into Northern Scotland will continue. Four submarines and five battleships will continue to patrol Northern Scotland.

The Revolutionary Navy has been dispatched to the coast of the Iberian Peninsula. This includes the entire Navy minus several Cruisers. They are moving to near Iberia to intercept the Louisiana Navy and turn them back. They have been given explicit orders to not fire any weapons on the enemy, however a show of force is authorized. They are to not allow Louisiana to enter the strait or move troops into their enclave in Iberia.

The Navy is going to meet up with a Carrier dispatch from the FUSR and work to disallow the Louisiana Navy from supplying their enclave with soldiers. Supplies will be allowed through, however any armed vessel carrying military personnel or paraphernalia will not be permitted.

"And so the RSSN intitates a blockade of sorts and starts the first possible act of war. Intresting".

[Yawoo]

The Scottish government agrees to negotiate this issue in a neutral location to resolve this matter peacefully. Following claims by the Louisianan government that they are reasonable, we would hope you will agree.

Louisiana will not remove it's military presence in it's newly acquired territory. Louisiana has no wish to negotiate with a nation who has continually threatened to bring war onto Louisiana, and Louisiana's allies. The Kingdom of Scotland has been told of Louisiana's answer to their Ultimatum, now either try to enforce it or leave Louisiana alone.

[Proxian Empire]

Louisiana will not remove it's military presence in it's newly acquired territory. Louisiana has no wish to negotiate with a nation who has continually threatened to bring war onto Louisiana, and Louisiana's allies. The Kingdom of Scotland has been told of Louisiana's answer to their Ultimatum, now either try to enforce it or leave Louisiana alone.

Then you give us no choice.

[Kevin Kingswell]

Then you give us no choice.

Sure they do, back down, remove your forces and shut the hell up.