Botha Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 (edited) Proposal by admins to make the in-game map meaningful could have dire consequences to those of us RP'ing if implimented. Basically, the ramifications we could see happening is that alliances dictating in-game map locations. Since our RP land claims have traditionally been based on in-game locations, this could throw our whole land claims RP out the window by bring outside forces into play. Anyways, have a read through the thread link above and see what you think. Thought I would bring this to your attention. Personally - and RP issues aside - I don't like this idea unless there is an option to completely opt out. But that is discussion for another thread. Edited August 2, 2009 by Botha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Jesus... The Mars/Moon-stuff was bad enough with expiration, but this is even worse, especially if you get a malus if you're not on a hotspot. It's like they want to make the game worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabioviejo Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 What is the effect of this on CNRP? Outside of Bothamode? I don't really get the CNRP problem of it, in game it may be a bad development, but most of us only partially copy CN into their CNRP nation. We could just ignore it. Its up to the community really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 What is the effect of this on CNRP? Outside of Bothamode? I don't really get the CNRP problem of it, in game it may be a bad development, but most of us only partially copy CN into their CNRP nation. We could just ignore it. Its up to the community really. There are those of us that have a reason for being on the location we are on the map. Creating hotspots for earth affect RP'ers that choose to be in a location than in the hotspot for those reasons, and harm their nation development. Like Botha said, that is another argument for another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabioviejo Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 You mean things like SoI? I think we need a clarification of the rules regarding SoI, see also the Pitcairn incident. But I understand what the point is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 You mean things like SoI? I think we need a clarification of the rules regarding SoI, see also the Pitcairn incident. But I understand what the point is. I like having my capital ingame where my capital is IC. The hotspots would force me to move my capital, especially if not being on hotspots means penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 I have my claims within my SOI and it's in the middle of the ocean. Honestly, the best thing to do if people have to start moving their nations is to, when you move your capital, move it to the center of your claims (but don't press move!). Take a screenshot and upload it to photobucket/imageshack/imagehost, put it up to prove your SoI, and then actually move your capital to where you need it to be. It takes about two minutes to d oand saves a lot of hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 This idea is just a proposal, but it's pretty well established in my opinion now that if we are to add a hotspots idea that it would be either improvement or wonder based. There have been too many issues based on the feedback in the hotspots topic with moving a nation so you mustn't worry about the feature messing up your role play. We'll take it in another direction if it is to be implemented so that you are not forced to move your nation on the map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 (edited) This idea is just a proposal, but it's pretty well established in my opinion now that if we are to add a hotspots idea that it would be either improvement or wonder based. There have been too many issues based on the feedback in the hotspots topic with moving a nation so you mustn't worry about the feature messing up your role play. We'll take it in another direction if it is to be implemented so that you are not forced to move your nation on the map. admin posted in our forum! We have been showered with holy awesomeness! o/ EDIT: I don't see how this could affect non-Bothamode CNRPers. Edited August 2, 2009 by Biohazard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 (edited) admin posted in our forum! We have been showered with holy awesomeness! o/ brb reporting for spam anyway, if we don't have to move our capitals then I don't see a problem anymore. :V Edited August 2, 2009 by Sargun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 I have my claims within my SOI and it's in the middle of the ocean. Honestly, the best thing to do if people have to start moving their nations is to, when you move your capital, move it to the center of your claims (but don't press move!). Take a screenshot and upload it to photobucket/imageshack/imagehost, put it up to prove your SoI, and then actually move your capital to where you need it to be. It takes about two minutes to d oand saves a lot of hassle. Well, we could always use http://www.freemaptools.com/radius-around-point.htm This idea is just a proposal, but it's pretty well established in my opinion now that if we are to add a hotspots idea that it would be either improvement or wonder based. There have been too many issues based on the feedback in the hotspots topic with moving a nation so you mustn't worry about the feature messing up your role play. We'll take it in another direction if it is to be implemented so that you are not forced to move your nation on the map. Lolhai, admin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 I don't see how this could affect non-Bothamode CNRPers. Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the assumption that any/everyone (not just Bothamoders) who made a land claim had to have their capitals located within their claim. Also SOI reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedran Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 I don't like the idea of hotspots in general, but if they do force us to move our capitals, for SoI purposes we can either use the radius around point tool or take screenshots like Sargun said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavo Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 This idea is just a proposal, but it's pretty well established in my opinion now that if we are to add a hotspots idea that it would be either improvement or wonder based. There have been too many issues based on the feedback in the hotspots topic with moving a nation so you mustn't worry about the feature messing up your role play. We'll take it in another direction if it is to be implemented so that you are not forced to move your nation on the map. This is great news. Thanks for the update Admin! Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the assumption that any/everyone (not just Bothamoders) who made a land claim had to have their capitals located within their claim. Also SOI reasons. Yes, to my knowledge one's initial claim must be within their SOI (although it doesn't have to be exactly 100% provided they do have the landmass required [ex. some SOI is covering useless water]). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerreyRough Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Just use the radius around a point if they impliment it, and if they do as admin says they might then we need not worry. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfef Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Where I RP'd before, I'll RP now. If they force our nations to move around a bit for the sake of RP and improving our nations we must all just admit that this is silly and shouldn't have to be RP'd. When the world map had no consequences for being located at a certain point the request that I move my capital was fine. But now that there are hotspots (and perhaps even alliances laying "claim" to certain hotspots as I think will happen) this becomes impossible as a request on players. Player would hence be where they claim to be as shown by their factbook and supported by the area they have under their sphere of influnce. Requiring their SoI to cover the region is unrealistic with this change and not really bad, it just elliminates what I thought was an unnecessary rule before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 I'm not really sure what to think on this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Hot spots are very bad. I feel quite comfortable in the mountains of the Caucasus, thank you very much. I'm not relocating to the damned Galapagos Islands for RP just to prevent a penalty brought on by in-game consequences! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 My nation is not in my SOI. I am not moving my country around. It stays where it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Martens Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Bad idea, Berlin ingame should not be located somewhere in northern Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Just use the radius around a point if they impliment it, and if they do as admin says they might then we need not worry.Problem solved. It seems to me like this is quite reasonable and would make the most sense. I don't really see why there's any fuss over this to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 IIRC, there's a website out there that can draw areas with an input radius (like the IG map), so in case hotspots become a reality (I'm personally against them, though), we can just use that tool in order to clarify claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 IIRC, there's a website out there that can draw areas with an input radius (like the IG map), so in case hotspots become a reality (I'm personally against them, though), we can just use that tool in order to clarify claims. I linked to that website in one of my earlier posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfef Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 It's not as though any real life nation actually uses a giant circle to represent their national border anyways which is also shown on the CN IG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 I linked to that website in one of my earlier posts. In just one? I think not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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