arentak Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 TOOL is honoring a treaty. everyone should stop the insults. They will fight with honor, and if they win, somehow, they won't be the ones demanding crazy terms or anything. TOOL has a history of joining the losing side in major wars because of their treaties. look it up if you have no recollection of UJW. They don't bandwagon, and they don't avoid wars because they love their infra. o/ TOOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilber Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 The fact that we ended negotiations before attacking them. Please, confirm facts before attempting to claim them. You mean like the ones that we thought were ended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees Empire Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 o/ TOOL. That's all I've got to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rommelgrad Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Good luck TOOL. I am sad that we are on opposing sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 You mean like the ones that we thought were ended? Who declared war on who? I was of the impression that Ordo Verde was blitzed at update, but that might be my pro-Karma bias showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think they knew that coming in. I also believe they should stick with their friends and closest allies. Nothing wrong with that. I have gained some respect for TOOL, regardless of which side we fall on. Well seeing how they were so bent out of shape about us declaring on SSSW18... they don't have a treaty with SSSW18. I just think it's funny how that works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 (edited) You mean like the ones that we thought were ended? Except for the fact that TOP and MK were the neutral parties involved, and they didn't have anywhere nearby the same feeling. I seem to recall TOP quite angry that night, if you read your DoW you will see Dr. Dan and Feanor not too happy with your DoW, and Archon's post regarding Karma shows how another neutral party involved felt about it. Neither of them thought it was ended. Edited April 24, 2009 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 TDT's declaration was not just aggressive but some have stated malicious attempt to draw stacking treaties onto an ally. This goes beyond the pale. Whoa whoa whoa. Aggressive? Malicious? Sure thing. TOOL 343 nations strongDark Templar 43 nations. AND YOU PUNKS WANT TO TALK ABOUT HONOR?? WTF! It is rather outrageous. I can't believe that they'd shoot themselves in the foot this badly. 6 nations can't seem to win more than their last 3 GA's against me put together. TOOL's war abilities, at least in the 20k-60k range, appear to be Grand Global-esque. we chose DT to honor our treaty with TPF and as a result we will be attacked by more of you karma cowards, this is a tactical decision so that we don't over extend ourselves, but god forbid any of you would actually think for a second before flaming... i know that you aren't capable of that so i'll just end this with I'm not quite sure why suicide is a tactical decision. You underestimate DT. I've been hugely impressed with you guys so far TOOl, keep it up So am I: Message: A fighter aircraft dog fight has just occurred against your nation by Tyekuso. In the attack you lost 3 fighter aircraft and destroyed 15 fighter aircraft launched by Tyekuso. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled. Message: A spy operation has been launched against your nation. The attacking spies were given the following order: Destroy Defending Tanks. In the attack your counter intelligence systems prevailed and managed to thwart the attack. Your counter spies managed to kill 20 enemy spies. Message: A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by Lzbth. In the attack you lost 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 0.00 infrastructure. You destroyed 5 attacking bombers. You lost 1 fighter aircraft and destroyed 1 fighter aircraft launched by Lzbth. 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Message: A spy operation has been launched against your nation. The attacking spies were given the following order: Incite Government Propaganda. In the attack your counter intelligence systems prevailed and managed to thwart the attack. Your counter spies managed to kill 20 enemy spies. All 6 of these nations are really taxing my ability to do damage . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty345 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 GIVE EM HELL TOOL :jihad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabonnobar Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 To those saying we are cowardly, look up our war history. We have far from fought in every curbstomp that TPF has. We know we will nearly certainly lose our sanction, and alot more, and that is fine; that was part of this decision. As you guys are(/were?) so fond of saying, friends > infra. To those saying our armies suck... individuals will have individual experiences; in my attacks so far against two of your upper nations, I have been very disappointed, especially to find out that your #1 nation has a very tiny warchest (think less than 10 days). But I won't go further because I don't believe in slander. Just sayin'. To those saying "Let's have a good fight!", from both sides, thanks, and same back at ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace072199 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Very Honorable TOOL O/ TOOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilber Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Except for the fact that TOP and MK were the neutral parties involved, and they didn't have anywhere nearby the same feeling.I seem to recall TOP quite angry that night, if you read your DoW you will see Dr. Dan and Feanor not too happy with your DoW, and Archon's post regarding Karma shows how another neutral party involved felt about it. Neither of them thought it was ended. TOP and MK apparently continued communicating with TORN, something that BigWoody didn't tell moo when they were in a Skype call together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 To those saying "Let's have a good fight!", from both sides, thanks, and same back at ya. But trash talk is so much fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galapagos Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 TOP and MK apparently continued communicating with TORN, something that BigWoody didn't tell moo when they were in a Skype call together. Sounds like you need better coordination with your allies. It's never bad to cover all your bases before initiating a war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix von Agnu Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 TOP and MK apparently continued communicating with TORN, something that BigWoody didn't tell moo when they were in a Skype call together. Was this before or after Moo forgot to tell bigwoody about wanting a ceasefire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 TOP and MK apparently continued communicating with TORN, something that BigWoody didn't tell moo when they were in a Skype call together. So, it's everyone's fault but Moo's or the NPO's mate, cause this seems what is being advocated recently? Though Skype is awesome, it shouldn't be relied on, as it ends into disasters such as now. NPO made a mistake, maybe it was intentional, maybe it wasn't, but either way because many believe your alliance is surrounded with lies, they aren't going to believe you. I don't think TORN should've been given terms so quickly either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miriais Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 well O/ DT and her allies...you're a sanctioned alliance hitting an alliance that barely makes a dent in CN... i'll tell you what though.. you made a really big mistake with that.. maybe you should realize what you're getting into next time before you try to pin down the weak guys... g/l... you really are going to need it... and it sucks you're going to lose that sanction.. O/ DT! We know that, we just don't mind. I have my flag, so who really cares if we're sanctioned now or not? Dosen't matter to me, i'm here for our awesome community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin Hawaiian Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 See you ladies on the battlefield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyekuso Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 But trash talk is so much fun Ha! And you do it so well! Though the results of your CM attack's were so. . .ahem. . . "impressive". Maybe the 3 infra that I lost was all about the vast experience you have. . . I should send my spies over for training at your academy's for my men clearly suck! Fun stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goallout2161 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 o/ TOOL... O/ So hourable and sexy... good to have you by our side... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Comparing TOOL to GGA is just plain insulting and grasping at straws. Of all the alliances in this war on the side of Hegemony I see TOOL being the most lenient. This is of course if they somehow find individual victory. Get to know them before making rash assumptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty345 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Comparing TOOL to GGA is just plain insulting and grasping at straws. Of all the alliances in this war on the side of Hegemony I see TOOL being the most lenient. This is of course if they somehow find individual victory. Get to know them before making rash assumptions. This man speaks the truth. Don't troll those you don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the riddler Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 TOOL is honoring a treaty. everyone should stop the insults. They will fight with honor, and if they win, somehow, they won't be the ones demanding crazy terms or anything.TOOL has a history of joining the losing side in major wars because of their treaties. look it up if you have no recollection of UJW. They don't bandwagon, and they don't avoid wars because they love their infra. o/ TOOL. Oh, you honor treaties. So can I expect you to honor the mutual defense part when we were hit by Legion and Echelon? /hears crickets chirping... Oh wait, we acted aggressively. It's not like TPF was interrogating OV which led to NPO declaring on OV. That most certainly is not aggressive at all. But what coming to VE's aid for defending their treaty partner (OV) is most certainly an aggressive action. It's all clear now. The correct choice would have been neutrality such as what the NpO is doing. I believe you, GK, claimed you doing the same. NpO are doing the exact same as us... What's puzzling me is how an attack on The Dark Templar is considered neutrality. But I guess our view of the word is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Nobody in TOOL wanted to be in this situation. We have friends on both sides of this conflict. No matter what we done here we were going to get grief over it. I don't think you would have gotten grief over going neutral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 But trash talk is so much fun yeah, pretending you're the s@#4t by posting some battle reports, I could also do that, post al the CM's lauched my way, all 4 of them, also an air dogfight that went terribly wrong for your guy, but what's the point of that? Let's just do the talking on the battlefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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