Manwe Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 i believe a thread like this was created and locked just a few days ago... That was an appeal to admin/the moderation staff. Admin has stated on multiple occasions that this subject is not something he will rule on, and that the players needs to make their own decisions on the issue. This thread falls under the category of players trying to change a practice in the game rather than asking Admin to change it, and as such there is no reason to lock it as the other was. For reference: As I said in August any rules from game administration would force our hand into endless grey areas and he-said-she-said situations that we have no business getting involved in. The best way to go about getting this done is to petition the player base and alliances themselves to charter and uphold policies against E-ZI. Now carry on, and no more discussion about locks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscher Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I find the wording slightly... confusing.Certainly I might share IPs to figure out if the guy who spied on my friend's forum is a current member of my alliance, but I might well be convinced that sharing an IP to find out if my member is a 10th reroll who has done nothing wrong recently is to be banned. Only at his 10th? Anyway I sign aka Sargon of Akkad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderJerusalem Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I have to sign this as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenKalashnikov Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Pact of Faith I come before you not as a member of the New Sith Order, but as a fellow nation leader. It has come to pass in my experience, and the experience of many of you before me, that the world at large has been screaming for a change. While I am obviously a pro-change person at the moment, I'd like to take the initiative for one of the biggest arguments on Planet Bob to light. EZI. At the moment some alliances have deemed it fit to EZI certain leaders. Those fellow leaders are searched and hunted down through a very intricate system which involves cross-checking of IPs, off-site surrender forums for the goal of obtaining said IPs, and asking certain people on IRC, our global communication network. These leaders are then subsequently banned from ever joining an alliance again and deemed fit to never have infrastructure again in the eyes of the people whom assigned them this fate. Should they try to renew a nation under perhaps a different persona the effects are the same, just the timespan for the attacks taking longer. I come before you now with my own personal view. What I just described above is disgusting, terrible, and completely oversteps the bounds of planet bob and that of the people outside of it. If you feel as I do, then sign the pact below. The Whole alliance of the Brotherhood of Nod aggree to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted March 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 /SignedSaying that, I would like to see this or a similar document signed by alliances instead of nation leaders. I hope I'm wrong, but as long as we don't have this signed by alliances , initiatives as these will be just a waste of time There is one called ZIPP, sponsored by VE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pansy Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I guess I will be the first one from TC to sign it. Never liked EZI, never will. signed Pansos the Pink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proxian Empire Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 King Penchuk of the Proxian Empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted March 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 The Whole alliance of the Brotherhood of Nod aggree to this. While I like the sentiment, if you want to sign an alliance one you should try ZIPP, made by VE. Otherwise this is for individual nations so feel free to direct your member nations here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertugen Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Please add my signature. Hertugen of Salernoland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) Chimaera signing in. Edited April 1, 2009 by Chimaera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruvian Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 EZI has no place in this world. Count me in... signed, Deruvian of Sezchronne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaciaut Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Doubt this will change much. Signing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shilo Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Hacking or other crimes should be handled by the OOC authorities. As I've always said, OOC should stay OOC. With that said I cannot add your names till you agree with the document. When someone carries OOC things into a game, it is absolutely fitting to react with ingame measures (as well as) OOC measures if they fit. (illegally obtaining access to a forum to spy is no crime, but it is breaking in under false pretense in a private forum. When then someone attempts to use OOC methodes like proxies etc, multiple nations to attempt such espionage, then chasing that person down with all means necessary is the right way to react.) You may add my signature as limited to my opposition of punishing ingame acts with EZI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodemofi-NPO Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Absolutely signed, I can't imagine a reason someone wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I'm quite sure you know where I stand on this. Sign me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenKalashnikov Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 While I like the sentiment, if you want to sign an alliance one you should try ZIPP, made by VE.Otherwise this is for individual nations so feel free to direct your member nations here. Well then Add AllenKalashnikov of Yellow Zone 95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) I'm sure you realize this, but I can't imagine this document will change anything, even if you reached 1000 signatures. Those that would sign already uphold the tenets of this pact, and those that believe in E-ZI obviously aren't going to sign, and already know that E-ZI is unpopular; they do it anyway. Similar to the ZIPP, all it really does is make things 'official'. edit: The only way a treaty like this can be successful is if the signatories refuse to have relations with non-signatories. And let's face it, very few people care enough about the issue to start dropping allies because of it. Edited March 23, 2009 by Lord Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I'm sure you realize this, but I can't imagine this document will change anything, even if you reached 1000 signatures. Those that would sign already uphold the tenets of this pact, and those that believe in E-ZI obviously aren't going to sign, and already know that E-ZI is unpopular; they do it anyway. Similar to the ZIPP, all it really does is make things 'official'. I hear that public opinion means nothing. We all have no power. The powers at be decide our fates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian LaCroix Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I've signed too many of these things in the past few days. But I'll sign this one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxnmike Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Good idea, sign me up. maxnmike of Isle of Chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendodge Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I, President Dendodge of The Free land of Dendodgia, hereby sign this document with my autograph and seal, and hope for many years of peace and prosperity to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facade Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Sign me up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Signed, Arsenal of the ODN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuterium Dawn Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I most definitely agree. Signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Wilson Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Truly a wonderful topic. I support it. James Wilson of The Wilson Empire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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