Experimentum Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Due to the sheer number of screenshots necessary for the illustration of Part II and the encoded limitations of these fora, I direct you to the old Behind Cyber Nations newsroom for the full version of my post. So that you have some idea of what this post will be about, I include the two closing paragraphs here: Former NEAT members, it is to you as well that I owe an apology. While I at the time sided with those who felt OBR shouldn’t honor the spirit of The Factum de Gremio Rosa, I realize now that Sirs Yenisey, Gwalchfaen, and Quercus were right. You expected us to fight for you. We didn’t. We offered to stroke a check instead.We told you that we couldn’t enter the military conflict because CIS, a Signatory to The Writ, was involved in the battle. While it is true that we couldn’t have engaged CIS, we most certainly could have kept our word and declared on ArGo, Andromeda, and GOD. We would have died, yes. But OBR’s honor would have been maintained and your trust in us rewarded. Instead you found your alliance forcefully absorbed into OBR’s military wing and your identity as a sovereign entity washed away. I hope you’re all just as entertained by the sequel as you were by the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I hope you’re all just as entertained by the sequel as you were by the original. I wasn't entertained by either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Specific Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Ah, now it makes sense, a guilty conscience. If being clever about a protectorate's status is the worst OBR has done, I still think you hold more integrity than most other alliances. In fact, coming clean like this just strengthens that opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Such a fun war that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experimentum Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Could a Moderator please replace this thread to the appropriate forum (World Affairs (IC) I believe)? In my haste to meet my 10 PM deadline I placed this topic in error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenderek Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I must admit, my opinion of OBR is getting lower and lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra Extraneus Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I love reading the talks of situations that happen/happened in CN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I find it fairly amusing OBR came to the same conclusion we did, independently, with the same evidence, long before we ever attacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK47 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Meatbag thread kicked into position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeydee Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Experimentum, I can't help but wonder why you're doing this. in your entire alliance history have you ever even been threatened by anyone other than me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Moon Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 That is actually a really sad story to read. Yet still... I love reading the talks of situations that happen/happened in CN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energizer Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I must admit, my opinion of OBR is getting lower and lower. Right. And opinions of you and vox is any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Right. And opinions of you and vox is any better. What does that have to do with anything? It's about time the Order became interesting. I cannot lay blame on you, Experimentum, for your path is one I have walked. I only hope you know what you're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookavich Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Right. And opinions of you and vox is any better.What does Vox have to do with this? This topic is related to events that happened long before Vox was a twinkle in Doitzel's eye.Seems like a pretty sticky situation. Good to see Quercus standing up for what is honorable. I would expect nothing less from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Valdez Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the next installment of Experimentum's adaptation of Much Ado About Nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energizer Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) What does that have to do with anything?It's about time the Order became interesting. I cannot lay blame on you, Experimentum, for your path is one I have walked. I only hope you know what you're doing. Wasent directed at you, more at ninten and his statement about how OBR seems to be less then what they are regarding honor and integrity. However, if he is to make such statements about another alliance and their values based on just one person, I felt it was only fitting to remind him of his place in cybernations and his own alliance he resides in. In the end however, what really changes? OBR still will watch CN, Baer in FAN will continue poking fun at NPO, I still will crave booze, and tC will still be the strongest bloc. Edited March 1, 2009 by energizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) Wasent directed at you, more at ninten and his statement about how OBR seems to be less then what they are regarding honor and integrity. However, if he is to make such statements about another alliance and their values based on just one person, I felt it was only fitting to remind him of his place in cybernations and his own alliance he resides in. Let's not turn this into a Vox thread, okay? The amusement contained herein is far too good to muck up with such mundane, "serious business" matters. Edit : Clarity. Edited March 1, 2009 by Aurion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homura Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Not unusual for many alliances to play this move in particular, but quite interesting nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 The most important thing in this is that I have a cookie with my name, D34th C00k13 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavo Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Wow, just wow. And here I thought OBR was one of, if not the, most honorable alliance around. Heh, seems we've all been fooled real well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 We offered to stroke a check instead. That check was a zero short minimum you ask me, I'm sure the members of Neat in there haste exepted your shinny beads to cover your real secret. " Most of you are cowords" and I use that term loosley, pixel and bean counters at best, please tell me agian why anyone in there the right mind would put there name on any document that was produced by The OBR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Cousteau Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 That check was a zero short minimum you ask me, I'm sure the members of Neat in there haste exepted your shinny beads to cover your real secret. " Most of you are cowords" and I use that term loosley, pixel and bean counters at best, please tell me agian why anyone in there the right mind would put there name on any document that was produced by The OBR. Calling anyone who resides in the Rosular Kingdom, and serves her highness a coward is defamatory libel. You, sir, know nothing of nobility. Nothing of honor. I do think that you understand pride, though. Pride can be a dangerous thing. My fair queen and her knights know when to set pride aside, and do what is right, and noble. And tell me, Mr. Freelancer; why is it that you build up a nation, here in Digiterra? You seem to 'retire' all too often. I think the pride you feel after building up a nation counts as 'bean counting'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanus Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Calling anyone who resides in the Rosular Kingdom, and serves her highness a coward is defamatory libel. You, sir, know nothing of nobility. Nothing of honor. I do think that you understand pride, though. Pride can be a dangerous thing. My fair queen and her knights know when to set pride aside, and do what is right, and noble. And tell me, Mr. Freelancer; why is it that you build up a nation, here in Digiterra? You seem to 'retire' all too often. I think the pride you feel after building up a nation counts as 'bean counting'. I'll just bother commenting on the bolded part. From what I have seen and read in the two posts made in regards to this issue, OBR doesn't seem to know how to set anything aside but their own guilt to do what is right and noble for them. I'm sure there is more to the story than is shown, but from what has been loosed to the public, OBR are as guilty as anyone else who does not uphold the spirit or wording of a treaty signed in good faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 You are a traitor Experimentum and no amount of internal information posted in public will change that. I dont care if you had plans to roll us or spy on us, what you are doing is a total disgrace. I hate traitors like you btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaR Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 This explains the reference to OBR in that giant pain of a thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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