The Zigur Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 If people want to build up infrastructure before they are ready that's fine, the Imperium is happy to knock them back down to size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jay Kay said: Take that how you wish. We take that as a dirty non-producerism not knowing what he's talking about. Now run along you barbarian terroristic scum Edited July 14, 2017 by Lord Hitchcock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: We take that as a dirty non-producerism not knowing what he's talking about. Now run along you barbarian scum To be fair to join producerism you learn not to be able to nation build properly and rely on aid due to not understanding the economics of nation growth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galerion Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Jay Kay said: I'm just saying your numbers on recouping money and the time it would take seemed nonsense and after conferring with others to see if I was crazy or not.... I found out I wasn't crazy Take that how you wish. It's not that the numbers are nonsense, it's that we differ on what the point at which you have recouped is. I am looking at recouped as getting to a point at which your total money is the same as it would have been had you done nothing different, you are looking at it as when you get it back what was spent without earnings over time being taken into account. Edited July 14, 2017 by Galerion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Galerion said: It's not that the numbers are nonsense, it's that we differ on what on the point at which you have recouped. I am looking at recouped as getting to a point at which your total money is the same as it would have been had you done nothing different, you are looking at it as when you get it back what was spent without earnings over time being taken into account. Recoup = regain (something lost or expended) As for your answer, you cannot dwell on the many variables that effect the money you end up collecting, as that doesn't exist until you actually collect it. We've gone full circle, recouping what you spent doesn't take the time scale that you stated using your nation as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 I will ask The Rebel for advice when I decide to go nuke rogue for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galerion Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jay Kay said: Recoup = regain (something lost or expended) As for your answer, you cannot dwell on the many variables that effect the money you end up collecting, as that doesn't exist until you actually collect it. We've gone full circle, recouping what you spent doesn't take the time scale that you stated using your nation as an example. or Recoup = to recover Spending on anything is a setback on warchest growth and so to recover is to return or exceed that growths projected path before the setback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 37 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: If people want to build up infrastructure before they are ready that's fine, the Imperium is happy to knock them back down to size. I bought lots of infrastructure way too early. Come knock me back down to size if you got the coconuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: I will ask The Rebel for advice when I decide to go nuke rogue for the first time. You should of asked him for war and building tips years ago, maybe then you wouldn't remain such the noob you're today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, Galerion said: or Recoup = to recover Spending on anything..... So why you accounting for money that doesn't exist yet in your calculations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galerion Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Jay Kay said: So why you accounting for money that doesn't exist yet in your calculations... Who invests in something only to regain their investment? Edited July 14, 2017 by Galerion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Galerion said: Who invests in something only to regain their investment? Investing in growth does give you a return in investment as you quickly recover money spent and then earn more than you would have by not investing. Seriously don't take nation building advice from Junka, you should go ask Polar whether they would help you in that department as SNX is seriously lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Khan Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Galerion said: Who invests in something only to regain their investment? Junka? No, only joking! That wouldn't work at all, it would only work if he continually lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 22 minutes ago, Galerion said: Who invests in something only to regain their investment? Not even worth wasting the time on these idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galerion Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Jay Kay said: Investing in growth does give you a return in investment as you quickly recover money spent and then earn more than you would have by not investing. The reason I'm differing from you is that if something happens to effect your nation in the space between purchasing infra and getting to what I'm saying is recouped then you may have lost out by purchasing the infra, so now the number of days to my what I'm saying is recouped is useful. If you have a 20 day back collect ready and it's going to take another 40 days to get to my recoup point and you know your alliance plans war is 20 days then it makes no sense to purchase that infra. The higher the amount of infra you buy the longer it takes to recoup, the greater the risk that your investment won't pay off. Edited July 14, 2017 by Galerion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Greatest Mothers said: I'm not a man, but I just did it Given I'm DEFCON 5 and you're DEFCON 4 it's not that bad... Your turn, now Spider How much did that victory cost you... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Mothers Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ericsw said: How much did that victory cost you... lol A lot, she's a communist with a passion for expensive boots, she's even worse in real life. I checked the nation: she even bought new vessels to make a naval blockade against you! But, at least, and I have no idea how she did it, we still have air superiority To: ericsw123 From: Greatest Mothers Date: 7/14/2017 1:10:49 PMSubject: Escorted Bombing Attack Report Message: A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by Greatest Mothers. In the attack you lost 18 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 16.08 infrastructure. You destroyed 0 attacking bombers. You lost 13 fighter aircraft and destroyed 3 fighter aircraft launched by Greatest Mothers. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled. Vampir. Edited July 14, 2017 by Greatest Mothers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, Greatest Mothers said: A lot, she's a communist with a passion for expensive boots, she's even worse in real life. I checked the nation: she even bought new vessels to make a naval blockade against you! But, at least, and I have no idea how she did it, we still have air superiority To: ericsw123 From: Greatest Mothers Date: 7/14/2017 1:10:49 PMSubject: Escorted Bombing Attack Report Message: A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by Greatest Mothers. In the attack you lost 18 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 16.08 infrastructure. You destroyed 0 attacking bombers. You lost 13 fighter aircraft and destroyed 3 fighter aircraft launched by Greatest Mothers. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled. Vampir. First War badge of the Conflict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Khan Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Immortan Junka said: Not even worth wasting the time on these idiots. Lol! Triggered! If you're happy and you know it... clap your hands, if you're happy and... join in Junka! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Mothers Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 40 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: First War badge of the Conflict Thank you very much. Vampir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Galerion said: The reason I'm differing from you is that if something happens to effect your nation in the space between purchasing infra and getting to what I'm saying is recouped then you may have lost out by purchasing the infra, so now the number of days to my what I'm saying is recouped is useful. If you have a 20 day back collect ready and it's going to take another 40 days to get to my recoup point and you know your alliance plans war is 20 days then it makes no sense to purchase that infra. The higher the amount of infra you buy the longer it takes to recoup, the greater the risk that your investment won't pay off. It wouldn't take 40 days to have the same cash level you had before the infrastructure jump that you stated previously... Investment takes risks, not everyone wants to live in the noob tier like Junka. Edited July 14, 2017 by Jay Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Meanwhile in the "Jihad..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz24 Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 On 7/14/2017 at 1:30 PM, Immortan Junka said: Not even worth wasting the time on these idiots. 14 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: Meanwhile in the "Jihad..." Looks like you took some time and I am glad we're worth the investment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 This thread is hilarious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Mothers Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Serberus_I said: This thread is hilarious! This is even more Quote To: Greatest Mothers From: Body Jryant Date: 7/16/2017 1:37:47 PMSubject: Battle Report Message: You have been attacked by Body Jryant. During the battle the enemy was reported to have taunted you with the words 'MENS RIGHTS'. You lost 3,566 soldiers and 59 tanks. You killed 5,348 soldiers and 1,487 tanks. Their forces razed 0.000 miles of your land, stole 0.000 technology, and destroyed 0.000 infrastructure. Their forces looted $0.00 from you and you gained $1,095,128.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Victory. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled. Emphasis mine. Looks like MRA attacked Femocratic Lands, and they have been defeated 59 to 1,487 tanks lost is a new record, isn't it? The Empress of Peace. Edited July 16, 2017 by Greatest Mothers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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