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[quote name='Exige' timestamp='1338231253' post='2973647']
Nikanor probably posted a picture of himself in the LSF pic thread and that's the reason why they didn't have the guts to insult him.
I still have selfesteem issues everytime I go to the gym from seeing him flex his muscles
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True, that guy is all muscle.

Still miss the old fart.

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[quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1338355944' post='2974408']
This thread took a turn for the worst. Let's all smash the left already.
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Whenever you are ready, we aren't going anywhere. Ever.

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[quote name='Biff Webster' timestamp='1337562729' post='2970020']
Needs more Zog.

As for the rest...

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http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=499585

I'll go ahead and take credit.

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[quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1338355944' post='2974408']
This thread took a turn for the worst. Let's all smash the left already.
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The Left was present in your short-lived, yet moderately successful revolt against the Hegemony, in its fullest capacity. New friendships were forged in the fires of that crucible between various Leftist alliances and its opponents on the opposing side of that global conflict. If you're thinking that 'the Left' is the marginalized enclave that it once was, in, oh, say, 2007 or '08, you've clearly lost sight of the nature of things, and your panhandling for a confrontation has done little to distract from the very real concerns regarding imagery that were raised in this thread and, subsequently, the ordeal of Nordreich's response to those concerns. If NATO and the anarchists can not only get along but sign a true treaty of friendship and camaraderie as former foes on the battlefield then, well, what exactly are the grounds for your grudge?

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[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1338582056' post='2975835']
Sindorin shows up every now and then to mess with us all before getting caught. What a quality trick.
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Now all we have to do is wait for Vader to pop up. He and Sindorin seem to switch a lot.

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[quote name='Nemhauser' timestamp='1338584114' post='2975845']
Now all we have to do is wait for Vader to pop up. He and Sindorin seem to switch a lot.
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...you don't think...

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[quote name='Sniper Joe' timestamp='1338370486' post='2974476']
Those damn leftists, supporting freedom and equality...where do they get off?!?

They need to be smashed.
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Freedom? No leftist countries are ever free. That's a whole debate we're not getting into here.

You've done nothing for freedom here, certainly not enough to tell me about it.

[quote name='The Mongol-Swedes' timestamp='1338520242' post='2975487']
The Left was present in your short-lived, yet moderately successful revolt against the Hegemony, in its fullest capacity. New friendships were forged in the fires of that crucible between various Leftist alliances and its opponents on the opposing side of that global conflict. If you're thinking that 'the Left' is the marginalized enclave that it once was, in, oh, say, 2007 or '08, you've clearly lost sight of the nature of things, and your panhandling for a confrontation has done little to distract from the very real concerns regarding imagery that were raised in this thread and, subsequently, the ordeal of Nordreich's response to those concerns. If NATO and the anarchists can not only get along but sign a true treaty of friendship and camaraderie as former foes on the battlefield then, well, what exactly are the grounds for your grudge?
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Vox Populi was not a leftist, nor a right wing movement, so if there were members of such view, I didn't see nor hear it. Now if you're referring to Karma, I was not affiliated with that movement whatsoever. When I think back to our membership who stuck around, I can't think of a single Leftist. I can however, think of multiple Nordreich members, notably, Vinzent Zeppelin, and weiss, also known as Captain Flinders.

There's no grudge but my political loyalties lie with Nordreich. One of the few alliances which have kept alot of my friends around.

And, you guys are coming in here openly hostile crying about pointless crap, stirring up an old rivalry. Of course I'll be here defending them.

The best part about it, you both are in the same hegemony. Well played guys.

Also, short-lived and moderately successful? No Leftist alliance has ever fought as long as we did. We fought a losing battle, against the most powerful hegemony in history, and persevered until we won. Moderately successful? What have you ever accomplished to call Vox moderately successful? Such a stupid statement.

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[quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1338612435' post='2976014']
Freedom? No leftist countries are ever free. That's a whole debate we're not getting into here.

You've done nothing for freedom here, certainly not enough to tell me about it.


Vox Populi was not a leftist, nor a right wing movement, so if there were members of such view, I didn't see nor hear it. Now if you're referring to Karma, I was not affiliated with that movement whatsoever. When I think back to our membership who stuck around, I can't think of a single Leftist. I can however, think of multiple Nordreich members, notably, Vinzent Zeppelin, and weiss, also known as Captain Flinders.

There's no grudge but my political loyalties lie with Nordreich. One of the few alliances which have kept alot of my friends around.

And, you guys are coming in here openly hostile crying about pointless crap, stirring up an old rivalry. Of course I'll be here defending them.

The best part about it, you both are in the same hegemony. Well played guys.

Also, short-lived and moderately successful? No Leftist alliance has ever fought as long as we did. We fought a losing battle, against the most powerful hegemony in history, and persevered until we won. Moderately successful? What have you ever accomplished to call Vox moderately successful? Such a stupid statement.
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Everyone knows Vox Populi was apolitical in the terms of a one-dimensional political spectrum, so, no argument there. I simply know folks from the overall 'Left' who were members of Vox. That's all I was saying, and next time, I'll be more clear. Moot issue, though.

Personal ties to Nordreich, then. No argument there. I can count strong allies amongst folks I may have few, if any, political agreements with that I, too, have personal reason to honor and defend, even some folks (like the old Byzantine Empire) who aren't even around anymore.

The rivalry isn't as serious as you think. In fact, I think you'll find that even many NoR members are having just as much fun with this as some of those in this thread who could also count themselves amongst 'the Left'. You're looking for a pitched, heated fight where none really exists. And this is coming from someone who has plenty of reason to hold a grudge with NoR but, really, time has since passed, things have changed. This really is just good, clean fun. And the SWF specifically isn't kicking the hornet's nest. I'm allowed to say and think what I feel on these forums as I choose. When you see a formal SWF announcement involving NoR at all, you'll hear what we really have to say.

Now, if you're referring to the SWF as being part of the same hegemony, well, you're just dead wrong. The SWF is fairly disconnected from the larger treaty web, and is more or less out of the larger game, so to speak. Consider speaking with members of the International, specifically, if you want to talk about that sort of thing. Also note that the SWF and INT have no real formal relations. And, I would avoid lumping any remotely looking 'leftist' alliances together under a common banner - none exists. We just have similar sounding names and imagery. There was a time, not too long ago, when TGE and NoR had no ties whatsoever but, ask somebody joining the game to tell you the difference, and I doubt they'd be able to tell you much just by going off of names and imagery.

And finally, well, this last part seems pretty touchy. What I can say is that, as a former LSFer, we, too, fought a losing war, alone, and persevered until our opposition gave up, or was otherwise obliterated by their own hubris. Not to really make any comparisons, though. These struggles meant different things to different people. Clearly yours meant a lot to yourself, mine meant a lot to me. But there's no comparison. But I take it 'u mad' because you clearly came into this thread envisioning a massive conflict where there simply isn't one. Neither NoR, nor the LSF, are willing to act out the silliness of this thread. But you clearly seem willing to stoke the fires, even at the potential cost of your own alleged ally here.

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[quote name='The Mongol-Swedes' timestamp='1338679909' post='2976268']
Everyone knows Vox Populi was apolitical in the terms of a one-dimensional political spectrum, so, no argument there. I simply know folks from the overall 'Left' who were members of Vox. That's all I was saying, and next time, I'll be more clear. Moot issue, though.

Personal ties to Nordreich, then. No argument there. I can count strong allies amongst folks I may have few, if any, political agreements with that I, too, have personal reason to honor and defend, even some folks (like the old Byzantine Empire) who aren't even around anymore.

The rivalry isn't as serious as you think. In fact, I think you'll find that even many NoR members are having just as much fun with this as some of those in this thread who could also count themselves amongst 'the Left'. You're looking for a pitched, heated fight where none really exists. And this is coming from someone who has plenty of reason to hold a grudge with NoR but, really, time has since passed, things have changed. This really is just good, clean fun. And the SWF specifically isn't kicking the hornet's nest. I'm allowed to say and think what I feel on these forums as I choose. When you see a formal SWF announcement involving NoR at all, you'll hear what we really have to say.

Now, if you're referring to the SWF as being part of the same hegemony, well, you're just dead wrong. The SWF is fairly disconnected from the larger treaty web, and is more or less out of the larger game, so to speak. Consider speaking with members of the International, specifically, if you want to talk about that sort of thing. Also note that the SWF and INT have no real formal relations. And, I would avoid lumping any remotely looking 'leftist' alliances together under a common banner - none exists. We just have similar sounding names and imagery. There was a time, not too long ago, when TGE and NoR had no ties whatsoever but, ask somebody joining the game to tell you the difference, and I doubt they'd be able to tell you much just by going off of names and imagery.

And finally, well, this last part seems pretty touchy. What I can say is that, as a former LSFer, we, too, fought a losing war, alone, and persevered until our opposition gave up, or was otherwise obliterated by their own hubris. Not to really make any comparisons, though. These struggles meant different things to different people. Clearly yours meant a lot to yourself, mine meant a lot to me. But there's no comparison. But I take it 'u mad' because you clearly came into this thread envisioning a massive conflict where there simply isn't one. Neither NoR, nor the LSF, are willing to act out the silliness of this thread. But you clearly seem willing to stoke the fires, even at the potential cost of your own alleged ally here.
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I wasn't even aware SWF was still around. I assumed you were in Int, just flew it for old times sake. My apologies for lumping you in.

Anyway, you have a strong nation, realistically I don't assume you fought with LSF that entire time.

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