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[quote name='Lord Caspian' timestamp='1304584912' post='2706737'] They could even have mandated it be non-nuclear; it would actually have been more interesting as it would say more about the quality of the fighting. [/quote] Not really, cause it would more or less be a 3 on 1. If the sides were even then that'd be true I guess, ah well cheers

[quote name='Rocky Horror' timestamp='1298117283' post='2638338'] This horrible new trend brought about by MK is regrettable 4 sure. I remember the golden ages when alliances would triple in size after NPO declared war on them. [/quote] Vox Populi? But yea, take shots at each other in other threads heh

This looked semi-legit

o/ Pacifica

[quote name='Guffey' timestamp='1295937181' post='2599215'] To define the next generation of cybernations, this war will rage for months to come. All will burn, and then once the dust finally settles, all will be rebuilt. [/quote] That's quite an optimistic approach seeing as if the world does burn with the already declining nation count prior to this war, it will be fairly interesting to see how BOB* will live in the years of abject stagnation to come (assuming a similar hold to what we once had) if the Politics that drive our world does diminish Anyways, cheers should be fun

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1293508863' post='2555887'] No. However, when you talk about war prowess it's good to be able to show it. Having that few casualties really doesn't do that. [/quote] Build your nation up, wait till your in the top tier, then your alliance goes to war, you fight get numerous casualties. Might've only participated in one war yet your casualty count will spike like crazy. Doesn't mean much.

[quote name='Reptyler' timestamp='1286230940' post='2474658'] When we left, we were[b] the first alliance to cancel on NPO, ever,[/b] and got rolled for it, [i]all before your alliance ever existed[/i]. [/quote] Not sure that's true if we look at GWI, then again not sure what happened with the Dove Doctrine/ our treaty with Legion

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1283037729' post='2434290'] Almost immediately the NPO spin machine alarm sounded, [/quote] Welcome to the spin machine Ragashingo

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1282626872' post='2428878'] I hate to split hairs here but by agreeing to the terms on NSO's behalf your Emperor acknowledged as much. [/quote] Weren't you the one who said something along the lines of there's no point having a forced apology if it isn't sincere? Doesn't that transfer to this situation? A forced admittance lacks a little sincerity.

[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1282098474' post='2420939'] Oh look, I found the quote: [quote]I actually agree with you here, but I am not going to leave a [b]valuable[/b] member of my alliance out to dry, Polar threats or no Polar threats. We didn't back down to Polar once, why do you think we would do it again?[/quote] All talk. That's all you are. Tough guy posturing. And instead of keeping quiet when STA showed you up over and over again these past two days, you keep on with the incredibly transparent act. Welcome to the Laughing Stock Tier of alliances. [/quote] Evidently Caliph doesn't view Merrie as a valuable member

Not sure if this has been mentioned but since we're all e-lawyerin [quote]Article II. The signatories agree to communicate with each other regarding any possible outside threats which may cause harm to one or both parties[/quote] If NSO didn't recognize the rogue as a possible outside threat than technically they would have no obligation to inform GATO...? Just wondering.

I remember Grenval in their embassy on our forums, good times. Good luck should be fun.

[quote name='Haflinger' date='23 June 2010 - 04:34 AM' timestamp='1277264040' post='2347227'] No, they're not. Also you're smart enough to know that. Matthew is now going on the "they're not really IRON nations" kick. [/quote] Yea, it's not like one of them has been in IRON for the past two years and the other has been there for almost one.

So, are The Grämlins going to start hitting IRON nations now since a huge chunk of their top nations are out of peace mode and in range.

o/ Ahhh freedom

[quote name='Matthew PK' date='10 May 2010 - 12:55 AM' timestamp='1273449330' post='2292926'] Unconditional Surrender is surrendering without conditions. It means you do not get to place conditions on the terms of your surrender. That means that Gremlins gives you terms, and your choices are either to accept them or return to war. You do not get to place conditions such as "How about we do this instead?" or "We'll comply with everything except X" When terms are delivered, they take it or leave it. Accept it or return to war. That is unconditional surrender, and that is what we have been saying. [/quote] Or, you could just say, "Here are the terms, take it our leave it", without going through this whole unconditional surrender definition stuff. Since apparently your definition of unconditional surrender are terms and one side saying take it or leave it, just present the terms and say that. How hard is it, honestly.

[quote]The Easter Sunday Accords We did not sign them, because we cannot due to our paperless foreign policy.[/quote] Unless I'm reading this wrong, assuming IRON did surrender, what guarantees would there be that Gramlins wouldn't just continue hitting them seeing as they can't sign any terms due to their "paperless foreign policy"?

[quote name='Ertyy' date='17 April 2010 - 11:34 PM' timestamp='1271543656' post='2264305'] The point is there is nothing that gives the general membership the prerogative to influence policy outside elections. Thus, their opinions are irrelevant outside this arena. The government will do what it believes to be right while it is the government. No Gre member should expect otherwise. [/quote] Nice of you to state that your members opinions are irrelevant.

Wow intense logs Crymson, and this does not make sense ugh.

Joking me lawl

lol TORN

No, the brave new world did :3

I remember, I think I was involved in one offensive war with three defensive from NAAC nations. Only reason I survived that war with my Infra-Intact was because I got around like a 500k aid for an airforce after mine was decimated. Ah, good times.

Karma doesn't exist remember?

Ewww