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Just because it takes a large sum of alliances to take one alliance out of the fight doesn't mean that alliance has any sort of elite level of fighting to it. It just simply means they don't feel like surrendering. That's called being stubborn. Basically, I agree with Weiss. EDIT: Grammar.

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1326344259' post='2897894'] Grudges are only useful when politically expedient. That said, very few people in this game have an OOC / IC boundary anymore and too few recognize that having one is what makes the game fun for all. [/quote] I can think of quite a few people whom don't know where OOC stops and where IC begins.

Personally, I have no grudges against any alliances nor do I have any personal grudges against any players -- it's a game. But, I do have dislikes of certain people from over the years.

[quote name='Lee Man' timestamp='1326168529' post='2896689'] <3 NPO This is the first one I have ever seen. I like it a lot! [/quote] You're terrible.

My rating was simply by my own opinion, I thought that'd be obvious to the peanut crew around here. I guess not.

Green Protection Agency: 0 World Task Force: 0 Independent Republic Of Orange Nations: 8 Umbrella: 9 Orange Defense Network: 6 New Pacific Order: 7 Mostly Harmless Alliance: N/A Non Grata: 5 Sparta: 3 Global Alliance And Treaty Organization: 5 Viridian Entente: 6 The Order Of The Paradox: 8 Mushroom Kingdom: 6 The Last Remnants: 5 New Polar Order: 5 Nordreich: 7 The Democratic Order: 3 The Legion: 1 FOK: 6 RnR: 5 The Phoenix Federation: 4 Fark: 3 NATO: 3 Nusantara Elite Warriors: 7 The Templar Knights: 2 Ragnarok: 3 Valhalla: 4 Goon Order Of Oppression Negligence And Sadism: 6 Deinos: 0 Legacy: 4 Argent: 3 Multicolored Cross-X Alliance: 5 The Foreign Division: 5 Green Old Party: 3 The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons: 3 LoSS: 3 Fellowship Of Elite Allied Republics: 5 The International: 4 The Imperial Order: 4 Coalition Of Royal Allied Powers: 4 Anything with a 0 is because I've never seen them fight or it's been soo long an accurate judgement is impossible. Also, replying is seriously $%&@ed up on this forum lately everytime I try to do a space between choices it bunches them together or moves them a paragraph down [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif[/img] and please, for the love of Satan, please, PLEASE put the options in alphabetical order next time!

2012: Year of the Attention Whore.

This has an extremely notable lack of: Chels and Ben. I do not accept.

[quote name='Sigurd Odinnson' timestamp='1325831600' post='2893878'] [b]SPECIAL EDITION![/b] [center][img]http://images.tgecn.com/mop/Kreuzzeitung/Kreuzzeitung3.5.png[/img][/center] [/quote] You are [i]aware[/i] it is 2012, yes?

Are you related to RV?

GW I, II & III were aptly named. Yes, the names are very unoriginal but it was in a time in CyberNations when names really meant little, just the actions during the war its self. Naming wars was mainly a non-sanctioned alliance thing before mid-2007 and those were most usually minor wars involving 3-5 alliances that couldn't bring in bigger names. I'm in no way forgetting the earliest wars of 2006 though that [i]were[/i] actually named. I suppose everyone hit a point late-2006 and early-2007 when there were soo many wars naming them didn't matter. The above said, I voted for The Winter War.

[quote name='ShadowDragon' timestamp='1325827277' post='2893791'] We just let our government make up whatever they want for their signatures. >_> Anyways it was a fun fight. Congrats to all on peace. o/ peace o/ SF [/quote] In that case, I should inform MHA I'd like to have the following titles: [i]Lord of Diplomacy, Master of the Planning Commission, IRC Master Troll, Bringer of Dancing Girl, Captain Cuba, Minister of Relevancy and Heir to the Fortune of Grape Jello[/i] I doubt they'd oblige my oddities though. [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif[/img]

[quote name='Joe Stupid' timestamp='1325825728' post='2893742'] I'm too lazy to count, how many is Fark at? Not close to 20 though. [/quote] My last count was 12.

I just realized the obscene amount of titles that RIA gives their government. I'd like to congratulate my friends in DT and NoR on their victories.

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1325825073' post='2893737'] I make no promises. [/quote] I could always revise my list.

You're a month late -- you should find out who the father is.

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1325824457' post='2893728'] To be fair if we are going to do it that way I should be allowed to pass out the awards. [/quote] Feel free to. Just make sure you don't kill MK when giving them their poison-tainted awards.

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1325824084' post='2893720'] You're not the only one to have posted their "Nominations." Sheesh, Cuba. [/quote] I'm the only relevant one that has. :v

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1325823354' post='2893714'] Anson truly is terrible. That said, it's not really fault, it's his ego. Anyway, a lot of the above are horribly wrong. Also Deinos should be somewhere here. [/quote] Deinos is in there twice.

[quote name='King Tower IV' timestamp='1325822822' post='2893705'] hehe, thanks for the plug [/quote] I'm not entirely sure why, but Anson really just bugs me. Maybe it's his constant amsg'ing or his advertising for government positions on the forums of other alliances or his constant announcements he used to make. You're certainly not him though.

[b]Alliance of the Year:[/b] MK [b] Most Powerful Alliance:[/b] MK [b]Best Military:[/b] Umbrella [b] Best Rookie Alliance:[/b] ? [b] Most Powerful Bloc: [/b]Doomhouse [b] Best Flag: [/b]Symphony [b]Most Active Alliance:[/b] Fark [b]Most Honorable Alliance: [/b]GPA [b] Best Diplomatic Team: [/b]R&R [b]Best Economic System:[/b] NPO [b]Best Recruiting Staff:[/b] Deinos [b] Best Propaganda Staff:[/b] Nordreich [b]Scariest Alliance:[/b] Non Grata [b]Best Alliance Growth:[/b] Deinos [b] Best War Flag:[/b] Carpe Diem [b] Best Forums:[/b] MK [b]Alliance Most Likely to Succeed in 2012:[/b] IRON Most Immoral Alliance: Non Grata Most Controversial Alliance: Non Grata (oh, the switch-up) Player of the Year: KingXander Most Powerful Player: Archon Best Alliance Leader: Archon (strategy... strategy) Most Controversial Player: All of Nordreich Best Player Sig: No idea Best Player Avatar: [url="http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r245/Optronix32/newcuba.gif"]ImperialCubanacan[/url] Best Poster: Brehon Nicest Player: pd73bassman Funniest Player: CheshireCat Most Active Player: Spammer =/= Player Player Most Likely to Achieve Greatness in 2012: GRL Best New Addition to the Community: Would require me caring Most Hated Poster: Anson (to me anyway) Best Declaration of War (Alliance): MK on MHA Best Declaration of War (in-game war screen): What? Best Wall of Text: Everything posted by _______ Best CN Meme: Every thread by Mogar Best OWF Topic: VE DoW on NpO Biggest Controversy: Fark vs. NoR embassy closures; the summer war was averted Funniest Event: Molotov and his incarnations being IRCop'ed Most Entertaining IRC Channel: #mushroom Best Treaty Announcement: Would require reading Worst Diplomatic Move: Fark/NpO Upgrade Best Player Quote: Don't care Best IRC Log: Don't care Largest E-Peen: Don't care Best Villain: Ardus Most Missed Player (Player that has gone inactive/quit): Dingo Best WaterCooler Thread: Irrelevancy

Nordreich Disbandment: http://z15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/index.php?showtopic=66714&hl= For good or bad, it is to this day my most note-worthy achievement and the causation for the majority of my bad press in modern day Nordreich amongst the circles of Kalin.

Seeing this makes me laugh -- really. Finally the !@#$%^&* treaty is gone. By the way, Nordreich didn't have to help you fight NPO early last year, but out of friendship and strategy, felt obliged to. It's great to see that FAN only likes it when things go their way.

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1325668484' post='2892215'] I was redressing the obvious glaring omission that the problem with the alliance is not "ghosts," but the "actives." I will disagree with you on the first point. The current solution is not currently available and a good majority are opposed of doing what is necessary to take steps to correct it. You and I both know that. As much, those in government who have actually led -- and not just passively lead -- actually lead the alliance have done their best with what they've had to work with. Well, most. Those whom were active. There is a great deal who were not who get a little more credit than they should, but that's beside the point. It's not like it's easy to fix an alliance of 5-600's individual and collective problems on your own, but when the solutions are unnattainable your focus goes on putting the foundations for those changes to be made in place, building, maintaining and improving what you can with what you have to work with. That is the legacy I inhereted and pass on. Also, welcome to the good fight, a bit too late to do much good in my opinion. [/quote] What you don't know is that the core issues of this alliance have been addressed in the last few weeks and that there is more change happening than you will ever realize. And this is without you as a member. I understand you want to protect your legacy/name as having been a secretary, minister and leader multiple times over a few years -- but you cannot gloss over your own errors, of which are many. MHA did not [i]suddenly[/i] become the way it has been for the last year or more... no, this was not sudden and it did not happen because you left either -- actually, I will say this: a good majority of members left this alliance because of your arrogance and your harassment of our general membership and even fellow Triumvirate. Few and very far between ever left for any reasons besides those. Yes, it is quite true your 'fingerprints' are all over MHA, you did accomplish many things in your time in this alliance but you also contributed to the reasons this alliance is in the state it is in. It is quite hard to have an active membership base when they keep quitting because of one person.... remember that. Now that you are gone and thanks to the war, our activity levels have skyrocketed and we're getting our !@#$ together. I am not placing all of the blame on you in any way whatsoever, but it is what it is. You dislike our current Triumvirate for obvious reasons and you feel a certain member of the body is more inclined to attention and stardom than anything -- true or not, it does not mean our government is incapable of doing anything. I'm here after all. :v I certainly wish things had not gone the way they did for you, but with your behavior... it was inevitable, and since you decommissioned the courts and placed the power in the hands of the Triumvirate... :/ As for the war, it was all unfortunate.

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1325666987' post='2892211'] The post didn't imply you were the only one who was going to attack them, if you re-read it. Your first paragraph doesn't even make sense. I was referencing the multiple instances of your leadership engaging in three offensive wars in a contest they knew they were outgunned in and were from the start, a very bad precedent and strategy in a nuclear war, and likely advising other members to do the same (this is dumb, by the way.) Ghosts aren't the problem, it's the people in your alliance. In fact, if you look at those who have left or who have gone elsewhere, it's very apparent where the problem of MHA is. Say what you will about me, I identified the problems and eliminated them and actually gave MHA a name worth having. In fact, the very same people who would have claimed to only have hated MHA because of my defiant attitude in the face of criticism (mostly unwarranted, but not all,) are here doing it again despite knowing full well where I reside or basing their comments on such fact. No, you're missing the right amount of people to do the things it requires to be a respectable alliance. Until that is fixed, you will never be respected, no matter what you do. I don't blame myself because I was an innovator and it is quite ironic that the height of MHA's strength was the day I was removed. I alone drove a program that allowed you all to weild a considerable amount more nuclear weapons and also sent thousands of war-prep messages. My fingerprints are all over MHA. I have provided it with a direction where it can succeed. It is currently being led by people without innovation and whom have no real concept of how to play the actual game of Cybernations, and care more about who makes them feel better OOC than what MHA is IC. I put it in the best position to succeed long term, while making the best short-term decisions in an alliance that of all things lacks most: decision makers. I put the blame where I see fit, and I have my regrets. I'm not perfect but it was never my ambition to be perfect. My ambition was for MHA to stand up for itself and its allies as well in addition to earning respect through reform and growth. You're a liar if you think there's any scenario where my actions compounded your present, less you speak of outright capitulation or treachery of your allies that MHA has battled against for ages. History won't even begin to know how many non-issues did not blossom into bigger and more unfavorable engagements for your kin due to my work. My goals that were met and the strives we made under my leadership are mountains that I challenge you to reach again. I only comment on things that I have already warned about and that have been ignored. I wish I could help, and if you do manage to get there again - - from an ideological, structural, economic aspect - - it will be doing the things I had been doing in years past. If anyone has a right --- It's me. I'd rather serve in heaven then reign in hell. (name that poet, Nishi.) [/quote] The problems of this alliance are not new, in fact, these problems have been tacitly ignored by the governments that led this alliance specifically for the last year. In regards to the wars, I concede you are right and I should have re-read it first before replying. I care as much about MHA as anyone whom has been here for years, challenging for change in this alliance is like beating my head on a brick wall -- and that feeling is not new.