ChairmanHal

Good to see. Good luck to Monsters, Inc. going forward.

Actually, this does go back to your attack on LD, though she was on the III% AA at the time, you are correct about that much. You also took the liberty to declare on two other III% members that same day (6/6/2015 @ 10:59:56 AM, and 6/6/2015 @ 4:04:16 PM) before being countered by two members of FAN (6/6/2015 @ 11:39:05 PM and 6/6/2015 @ 11:57:00 PM) and of course Dre4mwe4ver (6/7/2015 @ 11:21:48 AM), who acted of his own accord--something you were told by SRA leadership and asked not to declare on SRA over it. You instead issued ultimatums and declared war anyway, SRA didn't "decide" to stay in. So once more there you have it, a bit of truth, mixed with half-truth and lies from you. BTW, we're all still wondering when you plan to get around to declaring war on FAN...I mean after all, they were just as "guilty of aggression" if not more so than SRA. What's the matter, can't find that elusive blue button? Then of course there is the rest of the story...

We've been here before actually...in a global war where one side refused to surrender...stretched things out for months unnecessarily. Sort of OOC: Also, global wars have consistently resulted in a small surge of new nations and an increase in forum activity before they start and an overall decline in the total number nations afterward since the beginning of CN. I did a study of it once. It's a bit of a paradox because the really active players complain bitterly about how boring things are and seem more prone to quit when we don't have a global war every 6 months, yet the numbers say something else. Dramas like this one increase forum activity and don't especially impact the total number of nations either way. Go buy more popcorn. Skip the butter though.

I don't think anyone is trying to take back Meth's "precious". There was a time that doing just that would have been a term in surrender negotiations, along with leaving Brown team, and probably paying some reps. As for submission, that for Meth and Co. is an emotional issue, not a logical one. Logically, surrender is what Ronda Rousey opponents do before their arm snaps. If these people want their arms snapped well...so be it. They can wear their ZI like a badge of honor. It's not of course. These people aren't Vox Populi or FAN.

I think you mean that you extended a personal conflict you had with LD into an alliance war by attacking a nation (LD's) as it sat on the SRA AA. Mission accomplished. Or was SRA supposed to just let you "finish"?

The only shade you'll be under is the shade of the tree that hangs low over your nation's grave and the graves of the nations of your alliance mates if you don't wise up. You left out the part about why Kashmir declared on you and how all this started because you challenged Lady Dakota to a duel that she never acknowledged. If we want to go back further, all this still started originally because of your actions. LD didn't sanction you for bad movie references. The other day in our conversation off the forums I mentioned Kashmir specifically as wanting a surrender out of you, but they are by no means the only alliance that does. Don't spin this as "this is just a few people being stubborn." YOU are part of the few people being stubborn, not anyone on this side of the war.

Few things about that... You'd want to advertise the relaunch as much as possible. A mobile version of the interface (for iPhone and Android) would also be a must. You would also wipe away all the forums and game bans. Some additional "nice to haves": 1. Newer, more modern interface that reflects how people actually play the game. 2. Additional graphical/audio content. I'm not asking for a first person shooter experience, or even WoW, but some small .gif files and such. 3. Additional ways to customize the browser interface. 4. The ability to add real time communications tools. For example, a link within a nation that when clicked would take you to a Skype session with that player. Note that the players that end up playing a year or two out would likely be mostly new to the game, with only a percentage of people who that were associated with old CN still around...and that's ok. We're talking the health of the game here. It's needs fresh blood, along with a blend of older players and returning players.

The scheme is pretty simple really. RUKUNU receives cash for tech deals. The tech is supposed to be fulfilled by other nations who send the tech upon RUKUNU's receipt of cash. Of course, it isn't always working because the people who are supposed to send the tech aren't always doing so. When it is working however, the tech sending nations also do more standard tech deals with other nations in order to generate cash, presumably to buy the tech they need to send out to RUKUNU's "customers". It provides RUKUNU with a steady income, but it sounds like that is coming to an end because of the unfulfilled orders mentioned above. Questions I have at this point... 1. Essentially you have a fair amount of nations that are acting as tech farms. If the people running them are happy slaving away to indirectly provide someone cash, I guess that's fine, but it certainly isn't a set up that is mutually beneficial. Why would they do this? Are members of aNiMaLz and Limitless Nexus only free to speak their minds so long as they service their master? 2. Shouldn't RUKUNU be making good on the losses? Someone should be backing this arrangement to make sure people get their tech and if it's not RUKUNU, then who wants to claim responsibility, Meth? 3. Do the people sending money to RUKUNU know that they are essentially supporting, directly or indirectly, aNiMaLz in whatever actions they take? If so, and they want to still do business with RUKUNU, then fine, but there are implications that go along with that.

Actually, the first deal was voided when MI attacked one last time before offering peace. But I tell you what...you want peace now, come talk to us in private channels. I think you know where to find us.

My agenda is simple. See an end to a long war for my new alliance home, one that recognizes the reality of your situation. What's your agenda? Perpetuate the war so that Meth doesn't have to face reality?

Excellent non-answer to both my questions. Therefore I must assume that nothing more is being asked and your ego is getting in the way of following simple good advice. Enjoy the feel of the vice as it chokes the life out of you.

I know what you are trying to do here, and maybe I'm missing something because I'm late to the party, but aside from demanding you actually surrender against vastly superior forces, exactly what else is being demanded of you? While you are at, explain how threatening to hang around in the bottom tier and attack new nation rulers "forever" encourages them to stick around and make a go of Planet Bob, if you are that concerned about "the decay of this world"?

Back in April 1945, there was a fellow in a similar position to you that lived in a concrete bunker. Unlike him, you have a choice about what happens next. Meth, drama follows you around. You live for it. Your friends suffer for it. That anyone would actually vote for you for senator is appalling. It would be one thing if you were actually driven by a desire to advance Brown team or or you sought more equity among the various Brown alliances. You seek no such thing. It's ALL about ego with you, whatever you want to say otherwise for the benefit of others. Re-read what you wrote above. That's delusional. You are letting your supporters and Brown team down generally every single day you refuse to surrender and end this damn war.

Meth lectures us on what a terrible person Xanth is for "escalating the war", then proceeds to sanction members of another alliance's leadership, and another Brown senator no less, even though they have no active wars against him. Pressure of the war getting to you, Meth? If this is how you think a proper team senator behaves, maybe you should consider giving up that seat to someone who will be more responsible with it and less prone to emotional outbursts. Oh and just to head off a request, no you can't have my phone number.

He's the biggest, baddest, meanest 20 year old 6th grader you'll ever meet. <_<

So screw the lower tier people in your alliance we must fight over the 'S' word? How noble...I mean after all, you are fighting the bad guys to the last peasant.

Meth, take your trophy, namely that Brown Senate seat, accept defeat in the war, and move on. If you are trying to get revenge on Kashmir for making you look a bit silly and somewhat incompetent, it's not going to happen during this war.

Based on his current wars I'd say he's already way too ambitious.

I have no inside knowledge of the detection methods, but I would speculate that more than just your log in credentials gets passed over to the server when you log into to your account. Same goes for the data coming back at you, which probably consists of more than just the content of the web pages. That said above in my comments, I don't want or need to know their detection methods. However, what I need is to be assured that whatever methods they are using don't result in "false positives", such that situations where two people are legitimately playing the game and obeying the rules about nation interaction on the same IP don't get zapped. Statements like "it's more art than science" or "there is an amount subjectivity to the process" should cause you concern. Frankly I'd rather be playing knowing that there are probably a few people running an extra nation than watch honest people being shown the exit. As for forum bans, your experience may be different, but when I think back to all the people who were "warned out of the game" those that were genuine problems were the exception, not the rule.

The situation with Walsh brought back memories of players past that were banned and deleted for forum violations. Initially I was under the impression that Walsh was one of them as well, but that turns out not to be the case. However, anyone who spends a lot of time on here commenting and particularly if they do so in a manner that some people don't like for IC reasons, can suddenly find themselves a frequent "topic" in Moderation. That is as true today as it was in 2007 when forum ban = game ban took effect. I came to this position years ago, actually. Essentially having two nations on the same IP would seem to put you in a Sword of Damocles scenario, where at any moment both nations could be deleted without recourse. Even if that isn't true, the perception it is true turns a lot people away from the game and makes players think twice about sharing it with others. Pity.

If that is in fact true, I'd love to hear the evidence for "the prosecution", because without it that sounds like another case of a player being kicked not for a serious violation per se, but merely because he is perceived of as a problem...but a problem to who exactly?

Doesn't mean it still can't happen. :-) However, I'd like to think that "away from the table" here and in full view of everyone we can discuss a perceived problem like adults.

I was going to cite that as an example of what merits a warn, and if we're handing them out over such technicalities, then there isn't much of a case against a fair number of people who end up getting banned. As for Walsh, I've heard two different stories now regarding the reason he was banned. Putting his case aside, I'm sure we all know someone who in the past has been banned for forum violations, that ban was unjustified, and when they left the game at least one other person followed them out the door. I repeat, something has to change.

Banning people from Cyber Nations for forums violations at this stage of the game is about like drilling holes in the bottom of a boat that's already taking on water. If you want to make the "rules are the rules" argument, please explain how banning your most active players (people who are inactive don't get players ratting them out for forum violations) increases interest and activity in the game and how it increases the number of players. I grant you that people who do really, really stupid things like posting porn images or real life phone numbers of people should probably get banned from the forums and the game. But to delete nations and ban people for what amounts to a collection of ticky-tack violations? Really? Something has to change.

The OP is very inspirational.