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  6. rabonnobar

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    Cuba is correct right there. I've seen it work against people in my old coalitions in years gone by and I can see it again working here for the other side.

    There is total in game numbers and then there are battlefield odds (a combination of war mode factors, member participation, preparedness etc). Unfortunetly the above charts only offer a skewed insight into battlefield odds. They give a indication of potential ability but not an evaluation of how it being applied in game.

  16. HeroofTime55

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    "Good Responsible Folk" were actually the first group I listed. My point was you cant cap it at that when you choose to arm everyone up. Its an all or nothing choice. The other scarey point I was trying to make was that todays good responsible person is tomorrows potential murder suicide person. People have moments in their life where they crack and they are broken. Enabaling everyone in society such imence power of mass destruction always leaves the door open for that person to make a poor choice. Whereas the same person in a different gun controled environment may settle for kicking some walls in and eventually getting the help they need to live a full life once again as a responsible adult.

  17. HeroofTime55

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    >blaming the AR-15 and not the guy pulling the trigger

    I blame both.

    The deranged sicko and the society that offered him such ability to commit evil... in this case the AR-15 that legally resided in his house. You can NEVER stop sicko's in your society you can only ever limit their damage.

    Unfortunetly when you decide on what is ok for society to own you not only green light it for the good responsible folk you also green light it for the madmen, the drug induced, the suicidal, the broken minds of the family seperation scene that just lost all access to their kids, the normally stable individual that for some reason stopped taking their meds this month, every fragile person in the society is now potentially armed with assault style and concealable weapons. Unfortunetly when planning these things you need to do so not asuming ideal conditions but instead asuming worst case scenario for gun owners.

  20. HeroofTime55

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    I think that was me collectively throwing my hands in the air and exiting the thread. Sorry, I think this whole story just got to me having two kids the same age as those that were masacred the other day. To think of a grown man shooting my kid 11 odd times with a AR-15 is just a little too much. I don't know how you could look one of those parents in the eye with a straight face and explain why a civilian needs a semi-auto AR-15 with 30 round mag. Is there anything you can say? At least a child killed in a car accident you can conceed cars are a vital element of society and we need them to function. But high end firearms leave me scratching my head. And trust me I love guns and would freakin love to own a AR-15 but I'm also man enough to know I'd rather them out of my country then in. Sadly not everyone would be as responsible with one as myself and I'll be happy to pay the price of not owning one to concede the benifit of never having to run into one in anger.

    You raise a lot of points and I was going to debate with you but I think I'm best just leaving it at that. I really hope the US sits down and works something out that leaves you all a lot safer. At the end of the day when a little kid ends up dead you need to stop and realise that compromise is essential.

  21. HeroofTime55

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    Enjoy the world you live in buddy. Lucky for me my kids can go to a school that isn't surrounded by people that own AR-15 bushmasters, Semi-Auto handguns with extended clips and so forth. Most I need to worry about is the odd rogue Magpie swooping them on the way out the gate.

    Oh and home protection is a metal rod... funny hey... but thats really all you need.

    There are other options out there mate you just need to be willing to action them and not half ass it like will probably happen in the end.

  23. HeroofTime55

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    "Good people don't need laws to tell them to behave resposibly while bad people will always find a way around the laws" -Plato

    The argument that bad people wont follow the laws and thus we need guns to protect ourselves from the bad people has already been tested in other countries with results to show. Refer to the UK or Australia for working case studdies. You dont need to fear the unknown this has been done elsewhere so you can see the results for better or worse already. The main question is do you want to go down that road or not?

  24. HeroofTime55

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    I think a more interesting consideration beyond the issue at hand is to consider why these debates are never resolved and why the body of statistical evidence is so ambiguous.

    They never get resolved as polititans are 99% focused on getting elected and 1% focused on what they really feel is right. Pro-Guns gets you elected in America just like anti-refugee gets you elected in australia. Both are sad realities.

    And the statistical evidence is overwhelming. America sadly suffers about as many gun related deaths a week as countries like the UK or Australia do a year. Hell most UK police officers no longer even need to carry guns... something which I find crazy. The Aussie police were in the paper just the other day asking if they could get a handfull of AR15 style rifles spread across the entire country for critical response units. Something your average US suburban block probably already has stored in their cupboards. Come on man that must paint a picture for you.

  25. HeroofTime55

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    The reason we dont allow civilians to own RPG's/Landmines/Fully auto assult rifles/grenades etc is the same reason I think society should also ban semi-automatic weapons from civilians hands.

    There is now and always has been a line in the sand for what Americans deam ok to mass own. I beleive that line needs to be looked at again closer for exactly the same reasons it was in the past.

    And stop stressing I live in a country that went through this 15 years ago... I was a pissed gun owner at the time too but I get it now. We never got taken over by Aussie-Hitler 2.0 or anything... and you find that you no longer have to defend yourself from gun wielding mad men when they too loose firearm access. And trust me eventually they do. In the end it becomes a small minority that cling onto illegal firearm makes and they are more and more expensive due to supply/demand and average thugs loose access and resort to knives etc for macco effect.

    Americans love their guns and I'd never suggest you disarm everyone just swap the semi-auto AR15 for a bolt action hunting rifle. If you cant kill what you need to kill with that then you probably shouldn't be trying to kill it in the first place.

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