AAAAAAAAAAGGGG

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1326145492' post='2896448'] The movement from generalities to a specific example that disproves nothing about the generalities was a tad jarring. Have an aspirin? [/quote] When we went to war with MCXA, there were several NEW nations we fought along with. We all PM'd them saying to let us do the nuking since we often had an 8k tech advantage over them, yet they would nuke anyways. This was reported many times across the board. Inability to coordinate with those you are fighting with is not a trait of an elite alliance.

[quote name='Archon' timestamp='1326074776' post='2896060'] I was never much of an IA guy. Probably my biggest failing. [/quote] I can't think of many leaders that were well rounded in all aspects of running an alliance. To be good at everything requires an extraordinary time commitment. So yeah. [quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1326073998' post='2896050'] Your current obsession with your past and your reputation is unhealthy, Roq. Come off of it. [/quote] 100% agreed here. [quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1326057564' post='2895864'] I'm really not sure if that is something to be proud of or embarrassed of though. There's a reason no other alliance can bother mimicking such efficiency. It's tedious and time consuming and for what result? [/quote] No one is embarrassed about it, I'll give you that much. [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1326072233' post='2896038'] I can only wonder as to the dynamic inside of Umbrella right now. Allies, now friend and former leader. What's next? [/quote] Umbrella's dynamic has been pretty much the same since Roq left.

I'm not going to rank alliances that I can't accurately state, since someone stating "x alliance are good fighters" is way too subjective. I'll rank based on alliances I've fought, and by actual results of war. I won't rank allies, because of ~bias~ AA's I've fought: Legion / M*A*S*H (before being absorbed) - was hilariously incompetent both times I fought them. Bad warchests and poor coordination all around. Rating: poor MCXA - Mixed. From the spy reports, their warchests were all over the place. Those with poor WCs continued to do GAs despite having no advantage in infra, so they hit the mediocre category. TFD - Probably the most competent alliance I've fought. They had decent WCs and kept up the good fight. Ranking: good NPO - Coordinated well, plagued by awful infra / tech ratios. I'll discount the time I fought a bank, but the fact that they have (or maybe had) banks at this day and age is testament that their ideas need to be revitalized. Rating: mediocre. TPF - They coordinate, but lack serious resources (tech and WC) to make any sort of difference. The targets I fought were ZI'd pretty handily. Rating: mediocre I can't rate anyone from the maroon attack, since that was a bit incomplete. Here's a few select rankings I can gather based on results of wars: Ragnarok - The fact that you went head-to-head with an alliance half your size and lost horribly speaks volumes. Rating: poor NSO - You lost to Legion pretty badly. [i]The Legion.[/i] Rating: poor FAN - Having small nations with nukes without any sort of economic backing seems to have really screwed them over. Rating: mediocre I guess that's really it.

[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1326050347' post='2895811'] With all due respect I don't think you are the one who can say that. You have never been in Umbrella when Roq was in (or maybe just a small time) and esp not when Archon was still actively leading MK. I have always wondered why Roq got all those praises, but I guess the majority came from non-allies. Those that haven't worked with Roq closely. Sure he did a lot for Umbrella and I'm sure most Umbrellians still thank him for that, but to paint him as God's greatest gift is just inane. Roq sure as hell isn't better than Archon or any of PB's current [b]or[/b] former leaders. [/quote] To be fair, Archon never kept his alliance consistently about 90% slot efficiency like Roq did, heh. Umbrella's tech numbers are in a huge part due to Roq's countless efforts in the tech field.

Imagine the grudge Fark will hold after this now!

[quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1324677746' post='2885083'] There is no alliance that can afford the kind of cartoonish villainy you people want. The moment somebody prances about like a full-blown, clear as day antagonist they'll be abandoned by allies and murdered by the world. [/quote] Or there's a mass member exodus. See: Gremlins under Ramirus.

[quote name='KainIIIC' timestamp='1324621883' post='2884672'] Here is my !@#$%* paint-art [IMG]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/KainIIIC/Polar.png[/IMG] so true, too ; had to take the snapshot before the surrenders. [/quote] It's kinda tough when they keep all of their nations in peace mode from the beginning of the war and never bring them out.

[quote name='Saniiro Matsudaira' timestamp='1323926644' post='2878486'] [img]http://i.imgur.com/VsO7P.png[/img] [/quote] Comic sans font is literally the worst.

[quote name='Leet Guy' timestamp='1323892140' post='2877960'] Personal opinion of Krack's questionable devotion to Fark's reason for war aside, I don't think he's deserving of the insults in this thread. [/quote] When you have a 10:1 I/T ratio, and a warchest in the $500 mil range for 22k infra, you deserve every insult thrown at you.

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1323890151' post='2877940'] This is Farkistan we're talking about. [/quote] Can't you read his sig? Clearly Aloha does not speak for Farkistan!

Last war, MCXA surrendered after only 8 days of conflict, so the prospect of them sticking around is not good. Not quite CSN levels, but close!

[quote name='GDI Crossfire' timestamp='1323499551' post='2872144'] this declaration is just a further bandwagon on the MCXA dogpile. If it takes that many alliances to pound them into the ground, that's just sad. Knowing Umbrella however, its for the reps. [/quote] Considering the only time we've taken reps was 2008 with the NoCB war, a war in which TPF look much much more reps than we did, you could not be more wrong. What is with it with TPF and really dumb opinions?

I thought the subtext was a joke, and that NPL would have too much pride to leave. Guess I was wrong. Oops!

[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1323494311' post='2871865'] The shot at CSN isn't necessary. [/quote] How dare we insult the scared CSN! [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/zIJ0H.gif[/IMG]

Haha you post in the boiler room.

Rolling CoJ would have just made this place a more cesspool of awful posting, and CoJ's pixels aren't worth that at all.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1323373194' post='2869442'] Then it was a kindness for Electron Sponge to let \m/ either be a Polar techfarm or disband. [/quote] \m/ wasn't planning on disbanding, dummy.

[quote name='Aeternos Astramora' timestamp='1323363951' post='2869291'] SF needs to learn how to lose a war with integrity. This whining is just annoying. There wasn't nearly this level of whining by NPO when they was pre-empted. [/quote] I could link you to many Maelstrom Vortex posts that would say otherwise!

[quote name='Myworld' timestamp='1323320525' post='2868387'] Just leave some for the rest of us. [/quote] Go find your own battles, thanks in advance.

[quote name='KemMo' timestamp='1323320107' post='2868366'] Simply because you can, huh guys? Wait until the world opens it's eyes. [/quote] dang you guys really are the biggest whiners in CN now.

This is every sorts of awful.

How about "The Glacial War" since it describes the alliance central to it all, and the speed in which it unfolded?

So why Valhalla and not TOP?

TDO already does this, too.

[quote name='Joe Stupid' timestamp='1322844775' post='2859431'] Rok didn't ask you once to defend us, In fact we told you not too. I personally told Hyperion and Unholy that Rok was going in on the side of polar. Yet when we declared your gov came running and screaming that we didn't tell you and we were idiots. I said I told Hyperion and unholy and Hyperion lied right to my face and said I never told him, and then he said he would try to get our treaty cancelled. We weren't going to call the treaty, [b]but I guess even the thought of losing your infra curdles your stomach and enrages your government.[/b] [/quote] ... which was exactly why Sparta went in against NV knowing full well they'd be getting hit by AZTEC and their assorted allies, right?