potato

I was sure that had happened months ago.

Yes, probably.

[quote name='Commander shepard' timestamp='1344438045' post='3019832'] I wonder what status they would have had if they didn't do this treaty. I imagine it would have been [/quote] Yeah because before that CSN treaty, everyone was "OMG we [b][u]HAVE[/u][/b] to treaty Legion!1!!"... Such astute commentary.

[quote name='Nintenderek' timestamp='1343972500' post='3018062'] I think if you know where to search, there's a good bollywood reenactment of the history of cybernations. That's all we will ever need. [/quote] He's only writting about the Orange sphere though.

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1344009450' post='3018144'] Insulting people is a sign of being wrong? [/quote] No, that is not what I said. [quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1344012186' post='3018154'] Arguing with Potato is wrong, for many of the same reasons that arguing with a wall is wrong. [/quote] I would never go so far as to paraphrase Ivan Moldavi but I do happen to be right a lot of the time. It's a curse, really. [quote name='Ghuxalia' timestamp='1344014774' post='3018171'] If TGE was a bunch of my idols, then the people in TGE were idiots. When TGE merged into NoR, the former members of TGE became members of NoR. By calling the former members of TGE my idols, you are calling a selection of the current members of NoR my idols. You aren't calling the entirety of NoR my idols, but you are insulting a constituent group. Which I personally would advise against, if you want to keep them as your allies. [/quote] Now, that's a fair point. But I never called TGE idiots, I said they were a useless alliance. While both aren't exactly the same thing, it doesn't account for the TGE people learning a few things from NoR and improving. Also, since I'm fed up with people putting words in my mouth or misunderstanding on purpose (I hope it's on purpose), I'll try and make it easier for some of you: I never really was NoR's biggest fan to begin with so trying to go "OMG potato doesn't like NoR" is nothing new or astounding. Feel free to extrapolate from here but do note this thread has everything to with TGE and very little with NoR.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1343964974' post='3018024'] Don't worry man, I know what it's like to have !@#$%* idiot allies. For instance, this one time I was allied to you. [/quote] Oh. So you've finally realised how wrong you are and you're now resorting to insulting me? Sweet.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1343870173' post='3017690'] Yes you are indeed out of the loop. [/quote] Please show me the TGE-MK treaty. Or are you really arguing that TGE=NoR? Because that's a dumb stance. Even for you.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1343792090' post='3017423'] Interesting thing to say about your allies. [/quote] I must be really out of the loop to have missed that MK and TGE signed a treaty. Welp.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1343782146' post='3017392'] If the alliances that ODN is fighting are a Crap-pile(TM) and you needed (even more) help to fight them, what this tells about your alliance? [/quote] About ODN? Not a whole lot. But it does say that you're trying too hard or that you don't to get how coalition warfare works.

They merged into NoR in June. Why does that question keep on popping up every so often? Both incarnations were !@#$holes of no importance that never amounted to anything of interest.

ur jus doin it 4 teh pr

You should quit.

Welcome to the internet. You probably aren't going to enjoy you're stay.

[quote name='berbers' timestamp='1343211143' post='3014995'] My potato is very upset and would like to have a word with you. [/quote] I'm a starch thank you very much.

This is not the place for that. Also, lol @ 3mil/50tech.

Or MK since they allow us to do whatever we want and get away with it. GPA=MK enablersTis a fair point. Joint strike forthcoming. I've always said we needed to organise a neutrals deathmatch. GPA vs TDO vs WTF vs whoeverelseisstillthere. The survivor can remain.

No, I didn't. But nice try. I'll make it easier for you since too many words seem to confuse you: come out and play and you'll get something out of MK; stay in PM claiming it's a tactic and we'll beat the !@#$ out of you until we're bored of it (which might take a while).

I see you've moved the goalposts now after being proved wrong. That's fine. My argument holds on personnal MK experience. We didn't fight RIA and Fark, did we? Thus fable tales of Cactuarian and Boobsbaconbeeric war heroes didn't impress us directly. TOP and NATO directly impressed us by doing some actually fighting as opposed to going "neenerneenerneener u not destroy us, we peace mode!"

[quote name='Ogaden' timestamp='1342474035' post='3010859'] That was the night I began hating MK, you should be proud. [/quote] If the previous logs are the ones you're actually talking about, you remember wrong. And I also don't really when or why you started hating us.

[quote name='Ogaden' timestamp='1342472488' post='3010834'] When I queried you after you pre-empted CRAP & TTK. [/quote] After going through my own logs, I couldn't find anything remotely related to me goading you and/or mocking you for losing 4/5 of your NS fighting Mjolnir. So feel free to share with the rest of the class if you have them. EDIT: unless you mean those from Wed Dec 07 20:09:00 2011 who start like this [20:09] <Ogaden> I would like to give MK props though for giving me a reason to stay in this game 01[20:09] <potato> what did we do this time? In which I'm not mocking you for your losing your NS.

[quote name='Ogaden' timestamp='1342470678' post='3010820'] This from a guy who gloated and mocked us when we lost 4/5ths of our NS fighting half of Mjolnir. [/quote] I did that? When and where?

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1341324502' post='3002508'] There is no respect to begin with. The only respect that could possibly be gained is if the attacking alliances decided they needed these now destroyed alliances to help them achieve their ends. It's cyclical. Has happened before, will happen again. Thus nothing of value is gained or lost. Respect is a joke, Pacifica wouldn't be allied now if there was no potential in them eventually growing again coupled with their history of doing so and their value in activity. It has nothing to do with respect for Pacifica. In fact, there are many powerful entities that would love nothing more than to paint the forest red with their blood if given the opportunity -- which I'm sure Brehon himself is more than aware of after somewhat recent events. It's a PR tool used to attempt to get alliances to have themselves rolled for "honor." [/quote] That's both dumb and wrong. Case in point: NATO. We mocked them to no end before. They proved us wrong by going all in and actually fighting. By being a thorn in our side, they actually gained our respect. Now, you might not care. And they probably don't either. But the fact is, if you come out and play, you'll get something out of it. TOP got a treaty, NATO got white peace. Both from "The Most Evil Empire CN Has Ever Seen" (TM). You're going to lose anyway so why not get it over with now? Your tactic of "we're going to bore the other side to death" isn't going to work. It didn't work when it was used before and it's not going to work this time either.

Or MK since they allow us to do whatever we want and get away with it. GPA=MK enablers

[quote name='King Louis the II' timestamp='1342362673' post='3010470'] To OSRavan If you dont know the difference between following treaties in an agressive plot and following treaties to defend from BS or no CBs whe should not discuss at all. But dont feell lonely when we call OPTIONAL DEFENSE NETWORK. There is also THE INTERNOPTIONAL. I am sure, TLR allies are much more secure about their treaties than the ones that are allied to the the AAs cited above. Maybe you should ask LSF or RnR. Added: when you say "what happen behind closed doors" thats exactly what the perception is. It is that the likes of ODN and Internoptional seem to be more timid and less vocal about their allies. Which is the opposite to what happen with TLR and MK (despite MK not being in C&G). You can like it or not but that is the perception of most alliances. Otherwise, we would not discussing whether you are laptogs or not. [/quote] If we're going by outside perception, the reputation of your own alliance isn't exactly spotless. Are we right to think you're a useless blob made of cowards and morons?

[quote name='Buds The Man' timestamp='1340142564' post='2989232'] Whats wrong loose a string and have something take off on you? Amazing calling ones ally that was agressed Dumb. [/quote] I hope it's OK with you if I don't really like NoR. Will you be alright? On top of that, both sides of the argument WERE being dumb. Thus my comment.