William Blake

Good luck guys.

Wasn't Atlantis also briefly sanctioned?

Well said, Graham. I hope you stick around in the game for a while yet. It was a pleasure working with you and the rest of the TOOLies of old. o/

Some great memories with TOOL. Had to happen but it's still sad to see. Best of luck to you guys in TPF. edit: guess this means Sparta is fighting TPF in the next war.

Sad to see, but all you did for us in the past is still greatly appreciated. Good luck moving forward, hopefully we'll keep in touch.

Damn, I knew it was relevant, was just about to edit.

[quote name='janax' timestamp='1300641959' post='2671150'] Argent fought for Karma. You may remember us from such productions as "former protectorate, upgraded to MDoAP" at one point. So treaties were still alittle split. However, I never really thought for an instant that TOOL wouldn't fight for TPF...ever. One of the many reasons that the aformentioned MDoAP doesn't exist any longer. [/quote] Did you forget? You guys weren't significant. But yeah, Graham summed it up.

This is like those really terrible "propaganda" images of battle reports that people invariably make every war.

[quote name='Caliph' timestamp='1300415682' post='2668630'] All wars last until both sides agree on terms to end it. You are acting as if this is something new, and as if us not giving you white peace right now is proof we mean to keep you in perma war. This is false. The reality of the situation is that we will keep you at war until our alliances can agree on terms to end this war. Our offer has been come out and fight for X many days (1 month) and then we give you white peace. The difference here is that unlike what NPO did to GATO, we are not threatening perma war, we are not threatening perma zi for peace mode nations, and we are not threatening reparations. In fact is has been stated quite clearly and plainly that we [b]do not want reparations[/b]. Now the way a peace process works is both sides fight it out until they both agree on terms to end the war. Since you have so far as I can tell refused these terms, then the war continues until such a time comes when both our sides agree on terms to end it. Simply put, you had an oppurtunity to take actions and be on the countdown to the end of this war the other day. You refused those terms, so we continue to fight. This is hardly a perma war situation, just come out so we can smash you a bit then we all go home, white peace. Surely you can see how this greatly differs from what your then emporer told GATO about peace mode? [/quote] Actually, it's not like this in every war. In every other war there are negotiations, your leaders have already said these are the only terms NPO will get (it's actually kinda like the Gremlins thing in that sense). So the options are much more limited than in previous wars, where you could go back and forth and get better terms down the line (or worse terms sometimes). You left them with "take "the majority" out of PM and fight for a month now" or "take "the majority" out of PM and fight for a month later". Also, I was never in Pacifica (at most, I was in an alliance that had a PIAT with them for a month or so), so that was never my emperor who said a similar thing to GATO.

Congrats on the milestone, R3. Good luck on another year.

[quote name='Caliph' timestamp='1300411640' post='2668557'] There are differences between that NPO/GATO situation, and the Doomhouse/NPO one. NPO told GATO to get out of peace mode or they will be perma warred, no peace ever, and harsh reps. Doomhouse told NPO to come out of peace mode where we will fight for a set period of time and then go our separate ways, white peace. Doomhouse also in no way threatened perma war, the closest thing to that was "war will continue until both sides agree to terms that will end the war", which is hardly the same as "perma war". [/quote] Nice spin. DH said they would continue to fight until Pacifica accepts the PM term. That is exactly the same thing as GATO's situation, you are just wording it slightly differently. You just changed "perma war unless you accept our terms" to "continued war until you accept our terms."

[quote name='R3nowned' timestamp='1300277202' post='2666421'] Despite holding MDoAPs with IRON, TPF, FEAR and TGE (I believe I got those treaties right) as well as an ODPIAT with NPO at the time. Though that RoK MDoAP might've caused some uncertainty. That's one treaty I rather miss. [/quote] [quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1300282177' post='2666435'] TGE fought for Karma. That puts your MDP+ treaties at a 3-2 split. [/quote] We had downgraded the TGE treaty to an ODP in January, so it was just the Rok MDoAP on the "karma" side. There was some TPF and Rok drama around that time too, so that might have added to the fuzzy outlook regarding where TOOL would side in the war (and that stupid white bloc discussion that seemed to have been centered on our allies on white thinking we'd be siding with Rok in the war and TPF shoring up support (from neglected allies) due to the impending collapse of tC).

Congrats on peace, RoK. Thanks for having our back.

Good fight, guys. Heard lots of good things from our FOK and iFOK opponents. I guess we fight you often enough, we might as well get along. [quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1300063092' post='2663686'] I don't understand why you all have not yet blocked HoT as I have. [/quote] That's what I just realized from reading this. Better get on that. edit: ah, that's much better.

Glad to see another front close. Thanks for standing by us, TKTB.

Congrats on peace, UINE. You guys are great allies.

Congrats on peace.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1299877196' post='2660294'] Ok, clearly my joke was way too subtle. [/quote] I enjoyed it. Good luck moving forward, remaining PC members.

Thanks for coming to our defense, IAA. Good luck on rebuilding. Good show by all involved.

Congrats on Peace. Good to finally see this announcement. Well done by all parties involved.

Must have been a tough call, but definitely for the best. Good luck on moving forward.

[quote name='Kubla Khan' timestamp='1299109766' post='2650059'] Bonfire of the Hypocrisies [/quote] Definitely this one.

Thanks for helping out, USN. Congrats on peace to all involved.

[quote name='Kochers' timestamp='1299113952' post='2650186'] This post broke my moron meter, just fyi. Polar was being attacked by VE, iFOK and PC. They already had their hands full. The idea that Polar was somehow a negligent as a protector by not assisting KoH further is ignorant at best. [/quote] And FOK, don't forget them, they are doing plenty of damage too.

Considering the size of their nations, if reps were really needed, wouldn't the old "mandatory tech deals" thing have been a better way to go? Regardless, I'm sure they'll get some help rebuilding.