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  3. Kalasin

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    Actually, my very belief in God gives me a standard by which to judge what is right and wrong, because what is right is consistent with God's character. The existence of other people's opinions on morality doesn't prove that morality is not objective, just as the fact that some people believe the earth is flat does not make the issue subjective.

    Your belief in a higher power is precisely that -- a belief. As your views on morality are determined by your belief that a higher power exists (something which, unlike the roundness of the earth, cannot be verified) and what you feel his perspective of morality to be, your views are not objective on a very fundamental level.

  4. Kalasin

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    The problem is, I think, that we have a different understanding of what right and wrong are. You see, I believe in objective right and wrong. This means that, for example, Stalin was wrong to kill millions of people regardless of whether he believed that what he was doing was wrong or not. The same goes for homosexuality. If homosexuality is objectively wrong, then homosexuals should not have homosexual sex.

    The problem is that you are discounting the views of everyone that would argue that homosexuality is not a sin and that there is no such thing as objective morality. Your sense of right and wrong is fundamentally skewed by your belief in a higher power and what you suppose this entity's perspective of morality to be, and therefore cannot be objective or impartial. Further, because whether or not something is morally right or wrong is indeterminable, neither you nor anyone else has any basis on which to stake claims that something is objectively morally right or morally wrong.

  5. Kalasin

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    How is what I’m saying contradictory? I’m trying to advocate kindness and love towards everyone, including homosexuals, while not celebrating what they do.

    Tolerating homosexuals and their actions does not constitute celebrating them. You are entitled to your belief that the homosexual lifestyle is sinful and immoral, however narrow-minded and bigoted such a view may be, but just as forcing you to engage in homosexual intercourse would be wrong, so is the converse.

    On another note, the prevalence of diseases amongst homosexuals is irrelevant to whether or not their lifestyles are "...right or wrong." Individuals that receive blood transfusions are more likely to contract HIV/AIDS than those that do not, and whites are more likely to be diagnosed with cystic fibrosis than those that are not white, but this does not mean that the lives or activities of individuals with either of these illnesses are inherently wrong.

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