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Ok its been about 11 Months since the last update to this and it is the 3rd year running that we have had this list running but now its due its annual update.

I have not been very active recently so i will need your help defining whos disbanded and who are the oldest alliances in addition.

To qualify your alliance:

a) It was spawned in 2007 or older

b) You must provide the Acronym/Name and the official birth date of the alliance.

c) Please try to provide proof/records although this is not mandatory.

d) If your alliance has disbanded and reformed could you please provide the disbandment and reformation dates

  1. GATO - January 12, 2006
  2. NPO - January 27, 2006
  3. Legion - January 31, 2006
  4. ODN - February 12, 2006
  5. GPA - February 14, 2006
  6. GGA - March 1, 2006
  7. Grey Council - March 19, 2006
  8. IRON - March 22, 2006
  9. LOSS - March 31, 2006
    OIN - April 6, 2006
  10. OPA - April 7, 2006
    CoAN - April 13, 2006
  11. CCC - April 27, 2006.
  12. LSF - May 1, 2006
  13. FCC - May 5, 2006
  14. TOP May - 18, 2006
  15. NpO - May 25, 2006
  16. WTF - June 6, 2006
  17. NATO - June 25, 2006
  18. VE - July 12, 2006 to 25 May, 2007 - Reformed September 17, 2007
  19. NADC - July 15, 2006
  20. TTK 17 July, 2006
    CON - July 15, 2006
  21. IAA - July 19, 2006 to May 28, 2008 - Reformed April 28, 2009
  22. RIA - July 23, 2006
  23. FAN -August 4, 2006
    FFC - August 16, 2006
  24. OBR - September 4, 2006
  25. MHA, September 9, 2006
  26. The Grämlins - September 19, 2006
    CIS - September 12, 2006
  27. GDA October 10, 2006
  28. BTA - Oct 12, 2006 to disbandment date - Reformed 28 June, 2009
  29. USN October 29, 2006
  30. CSN - November 1, 2006
  31. R&R - November 6, 2006
  32. WAPA - December 12, 2006
  33. Fark - January 2, 2007
  34. FCO - January 3, 2007
  35. TDO - January 5, 2007
  36. STA - January 22, 2007
  37. TOOL - January 23, 2007 Joint Position
    UPN - January 23, 2007 Joint Position
  38. Wolfpack - February 1, 2007
  39. Old Guard February 19, 2007
  40. TFD - February 21, 2007
  41. GOD - February 24, 07
  42. FEAR - February 27, 2007
  43. OcUK - March 1, 2007
  44. Sparta - March 11, 2007
  45. NV - April 1, 2007
  46. CRAP - April 11, 2007
  47. MCXA - April 22, 2007
  48. BAPS - April 23, 2007
  49. FOK - May 4, 2007
  50. GUN - May 12, 2007
  51. MFO - May 15, 2007
  52. TOH - May 21. 2007
  53. TGE - June 1 2007
  54. TPF - June 4, 2007
  55. Genesis - June 7, 2007
  56. The Brigade - July 4, 2007
  57. MK - July 19, 2007
  58. Bushido - August 30th, 2007
  59. Browncoats - September 1, 2007 to October 6, 2008 - Reformed September 1, 2009
  60. Veritas Aequitas September 7, 2007
  61. Ragnarok - September 21, 2007
  62. TORN - September 25, 2007
  63. Echelon - November 1, 2007

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I don't think reforms should be on the list, but if they are being counted, \m/ and IAA should be put onto the list.

DSMR was founded in late 2006, and as the result of several mergers became \m/ in early? 2007.

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I don't think reforms should be on the list, but if they are being counted, \m/ and IAA should be put onto the list.

DSMR was founded in late 2006, and as the result of several mergers became \m/ in early? 2007.

There was a big deal made about this last year, it was ultimately decided that we'll keep them on the list but add a reformation date because at the end of the day they are they same alliance flying the same flags.

Im afraid name changes and merges are not counted as thats just gonna put me in a pickle :)

Also IAA Updated.

If you provide me with \m/'s Spawn Date i'll add it.

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Not to slight IAA, VE, and other alliances which have disbanded and reformed, I'm not sure its fair to include them (numbered at least) in the main list. For example, NADC has existed for much longer total time than VE (in either of its incarnations) has.

I mean, if tomorrow people (even if it was Ninja and Chris Miller themselves) posted saying that they were reviving the ICN, would we place them at #2 behind GATO?

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The Random Insanity Alliance was founded on July 24, 2006, not the 23rd :D

That puts CON before RIA, IAA and TTK, not after.

However CON is also toast, it merged into IRON.

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There was a big deal made about this last year, it was ultimately decided that we'll keep them on the list but add a reformation date because at the end of the day they are they same alliance flying the same flags.

Same flag + name =/= same alliance

Also calling them the oldest alliances and adding reformed ones is misleading. I suggest adding disbandment dates for the original versions. Otherwise you could say for example that one which formed so long ago and disbanded after a months time, but reformed present day could be added to the list of oldest alliances. Really it wouldn't be considered amongst the oldest because it would have only existed as an entity for a month. That isn't to say those listed are subject to as ridiculously large gaps of time however it makes the picture more clear as to what their age truly is.

tl;dr add disband dates for those which were reformed

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I don't know if reformations should really count, unless a clear line of continuity can be drawn from successor alliances. For instance the reformed \m/ is made up almost entirely of ex-\m/ from \m/ successor alliances.

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The Random Insanity Alliance was founded on July 24, 2006, not the 23rd :D

That puts CON before RIA, IAA and TTK, not after.

However CON is also toast, it merged into IRON.

:ph34r:

Actually we were technically founded on the 23rd as that is when people first came from RI and started wearing the 'Random Insanity Alliance' AA.

Also disbandments/merges that I notice:

CON (merged into IRON)

FFC (merged into RoK)

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Browncoats: Founded on September 1st, 2007.

Proof: http://z15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/...showtopic=82546

Refounded on September 1st, 2009.

Proof: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=67953

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tl;dr add disband dates for those which were reformed

I'll go with that idea as long as people can supply the disbandment dates.

Also apologies for mistakes they have since been corrected. To be added to the list i need specific dates. Thanks for your contributions.

Im happy to add striked alliances which once existed such as the NAAC but i will need the dates for them to be added.

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