Oktavia Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) So apparently the reason the war is taking so long to grow is because TPF's allies believes they have an advantage in 80k+ nations so they're sending everyone below that range in peace-mode. Now the "other-side" is doing the opposite with sending every 80k+ in peace mode to !@#$%* the strategy. Just take a look at every alliance involved. So now we have two-sides staring at each other in peace mode in a likely stalemate. Edited December 31, 2009 by Oktavia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord Shinnra Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 unfortunately it doesn't work that way. All wars are decided at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Autumn Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 This doesn't make it a stalemate. You're ignoring the diplomatic front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oktavia Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 This doesn't make it a stalemate. You're ignoring the diplomatic front. Forgot to mention that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I think overall the idea of only fighting at the top is a decent strategy, probably one of the better ones they had available. Pretty innovative as well. I don't think it will be very successful though. Either way TPF is royally screwed, seeing as their largest nation is at 50k. Whether or not their allies show up, TPF won't be receiving much military back-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oktavia Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I think overall the idea of only fighting at the top is a decent strategy, probably one of the better ones they had available. Pretty innovative as well. I don't think it will be very successful though.Either way TPF is royally screwed, seeing as their largest nation is at 50k. Whether or not their allies show up, TPF won't be receiving much military back-up. TPF is the only one that gets screwed in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizka Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I think overall the idea of only fighting at the top is a decent strategy, probably one of the better ones they had available. Pretty innovative as well. I don't think it will be very successful though.Either way TPF is royally screwed, seeing as their largest nation is at 50k. Whether or not their allies show up, TPF won't be receiving much military back-up. TPF was screwed from the very moment war was declared, and I'm sure they knew that. The point isn't really to "save TPF" anymore, its to hurt their attackers as badly as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 So apparently the reason the war is taking so long to grow is because TPF's allies believes they have an advantage in 80k+ nations so they're sending everyone below that range in peace-mode. Now the "other-side" is doing the opposite with sending every 80k+ in peace mode to !@#$%* the strategy. Just take a look at every alliance involved.So now we have two-sides staring at each other in peace mode in a likely stalemate. Oh my god. Really? Did you REALLY just post a thread for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oktavia Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Oh my god. Really? Did you REALLY just post a thread for this? What else is there to post about. Took me 2 seconds to figure it out on my own looking at stats. Edited December 31, 2009 by Oktavia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Autumn Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) I think overall the idea of only fighting at the top is a decent strategy, probably one of the better ones they had available. Pretty innovative as well. I don't think it will be very successful though.Either way TPF is royally screwed, seeing as their largest nation is at 50k. Whether or not their allies show up, TPF won't be receiving much military back-up. Supposedly The Phoenix Federation is being sacrificed for the greater good or something? I forgot what the explaination given to me was for that one (the person explaining it wasn't really in a position to know anyway but I found it hilarious). They'll take a beating which allows them to play the pity card (again) and be all brave and the last ones off the field (probably being dragged off like a corpse but whatever). This war hinges on whether someone is stupid/brilliant enough to drag in the Indepdendent Republic of Orange Nations. If they do they can arguably pull in The Citadel and, if the Complaints and Greivances Union or Superfriends want their shot, can be gunned up a bit. If this happens the war gets interesting. If it doesn't you see a mopping of the floor because, as we all know, you need to bring in every single treaty partner you have all the time to ensure victory (see Athens-M*A*S*H). It won't be a stalemate. It'll be something else more and less amusing. TPF was screwed from the very moment war was declared, and I'm sure they knew that. The point isn't really to "save TPF" anymore, its to hurt their attackers as badly as possible. This one is wise. Edited December 31, 2009 by Tokugawa Mitsukuni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) I think overall the idea of only fighting at the top is a decent strategy, probably one of the better ones they had available. Pretty innovative as well. I don't think it will be very successful though.Either way TPF is royally screwed, seeing as their largest nation is at 50k. Whether or not their allies show up, TPF won't be receiving much military back-up. You know, this is why the potential escalation is so very interesting. It's the first war that might have a strategy other than "Be more organized and have more NS and nukes." Edited December 31, 2009 by Aeternos Astramora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 unfortunately it doesn't work that way. All wars are decided at the top. Not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 What else is there to post about. Took me 2 seconds to figure it out on my own looking at stats. Because this place is becoming cluttered as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oktavia Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 You know, this is why the potential escalation is so very interesting. It's the first war that might have a strategy other than "Be more organized and have more NS and nukes." It's an interesting shift of strategies. I guess Karma taught people about the trap card. I just think it's a strategy that is too easily countered and will work better on paper. You'll likely always be eating a nuke everyday which cuts down your NS low enough that those smaller nations can gang up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Diorno Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Yargh! If supercomplaints controls the nations 85K and under, the large nations of the enemy will be getting no tech from any alliance! They won't be able to grow anything their scallywag warchests, supercomplaints victory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Mango Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Oh the possibilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) I thought Supercomplaints wanted a fight? They would still have the advantage without putting their upper tier into peace mode. I bet Sparta is happy with this turn of events. Edited December 31, 2009 by Kaiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Virus Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 So begins the Peace mode war More like Magikarp War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oktavia Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Cybernation's Trench Warfare Edition™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEd Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Everyone is contemplating these possibilities and war..and this stuff...and strategy and who has more nations in the high ranges and the mid ranges...yet I have seen NO, not one...DoW from TPF's allies...so until that happens, no speculation Ill be waiting at Update...to see IF all hell does break loose like so many of you suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Everyone is contemplating these possibilities and war..and this stuff...and strategy and who has more nations in the high ranges and the mid ranges...yet I have seen NO, not one...DoW from TPF's allies...so until that happens, no speculation Ill be waiting at Update...to see IF all hell does break loose like so many of you suggest. They have a lot invested at this point not to follow through. The losses of potential income from having so many nations in peace mode probably already numbers in the billions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Personally I'm just scared for my pixels. Who knows who SF will go after next? I can't risk losing my precious infra. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oktavia Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Everyone is contemplating these possibilities and war..and this stuff...and strategy and who has more nations in the high ranges and the mid ranges...yet I have seen NO, not one...DoW from TPF's allies...so until that happens, no speculation Ill be waiting at Update...to see IF all hell does break loose like so many of you suggest. Well, NPO and allies got baited into War last-time and took a beating for it. I would assume they don't want to charge in unless they know they have a chance. It's more pixels > friends strategy. >_> They have a lot invested at this point not to follow through. The losses of potential income from having so many nations in peace mode probably already numbers in the billions. Peace mode doesn't hurt your income that badly unless you sit in it for 20+ days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 har har, the actuall end goal stragy is not the stale mate, we supporters of TPF will get the stale mate so that we can execute blan 14C Troll our opponents to death!!!!!! Watch as they fall with no mercy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Well, NPO and allies got baited into War last-time and took a beating for it. I would assume they don't want to charge in unless they know they have a chance. It's more pixels > friends strategy. >_>Peace mode doesn't hurt your income that badly unless you sit in it for 20+ days. I don't think attacking Ordo Verde really counts as being 'baited'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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