Haflinger Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Then why didn't you just give us the whole thing? It's not like it's a 500-line conversation, and you were cutting out irrelevant parts to shorten the time it takes to read it. This was done deliberately. The Acting President gave you the whole thing. If it was done deliberately, do you really think he would have? Nah. We'd be all of conspiring revenge on Timtacious for foiling our evil plans if this was the case. Possibly figuring out ways of putting him in this poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Soviet Attack Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Yeah, and you're a Mongol khan, not a ninja. heh Oh SNAP. Nice memory, Sammy. Heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylar Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 So, what was gained from all 27 pages of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 The Acting President gave you the whole thing. If it was done deliberately, do you really think he would have?Nah. We'd be all of conspiring revenge on Timtacious for foiling our evil plans if this was the case. Possibly figuring out ways of putting him in this poster. Well yeah, I'm pretty sure he had to after the cover was blown off the whole thing. You re-arranged the logs to make it appear SLCB's first reaction was "no" before even hearing your case, which paints them in a significantly worse light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Soviet Attack Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 So, what was gained from all 27 pages of this? A spelling lesson and also we both paid each other some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) This was not the intent of the OP. I'm sorry if that impression was produced by it. That's not an impression, that's what it physically did. It took the last line of the conversation, put it first and removed all references to SLCB actually considering the situation. Reordering things and cutting out lines in the middle of conversations completely changes the meaning of those conversations. Hell, that log isn't even all from the same conversation. That's not editing for length. Editing for length involves removing unrelated material and showing where the gaps are. Taking the words of a conversation and rearranging them so they say what you want them to say is not editing for length. Edited October 30, 2009 by Delta1212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Soviet Attack Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) Well yeah, I'm pretty sure he had to after the cover was blown off the whole thing. You re-arranged the logs to make it appear SLCB's first reaction was "no" before even hearing your case, which paints them in a significantly worse light. (Sorry for double post) We know, Penkala. We said so a few pages back. Non-issue. They acknowledge it, we don't care about it. MDP coming soon. Edit: Sigh. Edited October 30, 2009 by A Soviet Attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerKoel Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (Sorry for double post)We know, Penkala. We said so a few pages back. Non-issue. They acknowledge it, we don't care about it. MDP coming soon. Edit: Sigh. MADP* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingoist Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Yeah, and you're a Mongol khan, not a ninja. heh though he is exceedingly organized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) (Sorry for double post)We know, Penkala. We said so a few pages back. Non-issue. They acknowledge it, we don't care about it. MDP coming soon. Edit: Sigh. Thanks for the re-assurances, but while you may not care, I do. If you weren't trying to make this look bad for SLBC and were just trying to condense them I'm sure you would have included "Oct 28 18:22:56 <ogodai> We've come to a consensus that given the tiny amount of damage dealt by Kurt, reps aren't really necessary and probably a waste of aid." too. Edited October 30, 2009 by Penkala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) This has been going on literally since I started playing this game in '06. My name is Ogodai. O. G. O. D. A. I. Not Ogadai. Not woggydie. Not Oh Go Die. Not Oh Good Day.It's six letters for god's sake. It's frankly UNACCEPTABLE to misspell it. Hi srqt! I feel your pain. Edited October 30, 2009 by KingSrqt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorost Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Give me a break. I posted those log snippets exactly as they were given to me. I didn't make any edits. It turns out that apparently there was a line out of order. But it's not like it changes the fundamental meaning. I refer you to the words of Mark Twain, who said "Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence." In other words, I'm not a scoundrel – just an idiot! Wait... That's not really better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I feel your pain. I know you do, Squirtle. ooc: nice edit, caught me before I could make a joke about *you* being the one in pain if you fell, not him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleda Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 have you people seriously never heard of negotiating? i mean seriously.sometimes it goes something like this: a. initial offer b. outright refusal to do anything of the sort c. time passes d. second offer e. solution what is this, amateur hour? should be more like this : a. overwelming retaliatory strikes on raider b. reperation DEMANDS are presented as retaliatory strikes continue c. outright refusal to do anything of the sort d. alliance wide blitz with even higher reps DEMANDED you all just do it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormsend Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 That's not an impression, that's what it physically did. It took the last line of the conversation, put it first and removed all references to SLCB actually considering the situation. Reordering things and cutting out lines in the middle of conversations completely changes the meaning of those conversations. Hell, that log isn't even all from the same conversation. That's not editing for length. Editing for length involves removing unrelated material and showing where the gaps are. Taking the words of a conversation and rearranging them so they say what you want them to say is not editing for length. In 27 pages, there hasn't been a goddamn thing as glorious as this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 In 27 pages, there hasn't been a goddamn thing as glorious as this post. Yep. Delta could have also pointed out how they removed the timestamps as would be necessary to make it appear in order, or how they didn't include the one line Ogodai said (that essentially laid out why they wouldn't pay reps), because it included an explanation from SLCB that made sense and didn't make them look as evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 In 27 pages, there hasn't been a goddamn thing as glorious as this post. The doitzel avatar and signature gives it added effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KahlanRahl Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) ...Wow, this thing is still going? I have to applaud this thread. I for sure thought you'd have FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF each other out after the situation was solved. Just, wow. In other news, congrats on diffusing the situation. Edited October 30, 2009 by KahlanRahl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddick Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 was this a big bluff for small reps? how disapointing this is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicknight Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Yep. Delta could have also pointed out how they removed the timestamps as would be necessary to make it appear in order, or how they didn't include the one line Ogodai said (that essentially laid out why they wouldn't pay reps), because it included an explanation from SLCB that made sense and didn't make them look as evil. But SLCB is evil D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Doedel Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) I refer you to the words of Mark Twain, who said "Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence." In other words, I'm not a scoundrel – just an idiot! I have to say that, after reading this thread, you do seem to be one of the more skilled diplomats in Invicta. Regards, Jan Doedel. Edited October 30, 2009 by Jan Doedel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikz Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) Doctored?I say Condensed Jor never said that these were the full logs, they were quotes of the converstion. Those were ogodai's words. So if you quote people you are doctoring logs? He presented something someone else said out of the conversation's context, trying to make the other party look bad (deliberately) by omitting certain sentences. You need a doctor if you don't call that doctoring with logs. In other words; if you want to pull an Ephie, you should try harder en better. Edited October 30, 2009 by erikz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejarue Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 So, once again, Invicta started to look a little better until Haflinger showed up. Are you guys paying him to turn Invicta into GGA's replacement? Because... you know how that ended for them, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philp110 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I cannot believe I just read this entire thing. What a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 But SLCB is evil D: What else could we expect from the former protectorate of a group of misfits such as Vanguard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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