Mathias Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 It's a good foreign policy tbf Only because they chose the right leg this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) Touche, babyjesus. Edited September 27, 2009 by SirWilliam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joracy Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Only because they chose the right leg this time. Well, lets just say CnG's left leg is not pretty. Nor does it smell nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Diorno Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 At least we're doing more than humping C&G's legs and giving them puppy eyes, right? C&G likes humping people's legs so its a mutual thing, why just today me and Eden Taylor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Wow, Eden, Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 As easy and convenient as it would be for me to jump on the bandwagon and lampoon ODN for its past, I, unlike some of the others posting, realize it's just that: the past. You see, no one is bound by their past. Total rubbish, you just spearheaded a war to get revenge for things that happened between 1 and 3 years ago. The world we live in post Karma war says people are judged and often crushed because of their past. ODN are bound by their past just like NPO and the section of the Hegemony that didnt jump a couple of weeks earlier. These are MKs rules and you dont get to change them after fighting a war with that at its core. Saying that they can drop and sign any treaties they like, it seems the difference now is they are leaving themselves no back door out, which is their modus operandi until disproved by their actions and not their words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildThing Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Total rubbish, you just spearheaded a war to get revenge for things that happened between 1 and 3 years ago. The world we live in post Karma war says people are judged and often crushed because of their past. ODN are bound by their past just like NPO and the section of the Hegemony that didnt jump a couple of weeks earlier. These are MKs rules and you dont get to change them after fighting a war with that at its core.Saying that they can drop and sign any treaties they like, it seems the difference now is they are leaving themselves no back door out, which is their modus operandi until disproved by their actions and not their words. Lovely spiel and all, however telling the Prince of the Mushroom Kingdom which of the many rules the Mushroom Kingdom sets on this fair world he can and can't change seems a bit silly really.. Don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Lovely spiel and all, however telling the Prince of the Mushroom Kingdom which of the many rules the Mushroom Kingdom sets on this fair world he can and can't change seems a bit silly really.. Don't you think? Figuratively speaking!. Telling people one alliance cant be judged on its past after taking part in the crushing of so many other alliances for their past will be ignored, he or anyone who fought in Karma doesnt get to tell people that after what they just did. No its not silly at all to tell people you will not follow their hypocritical wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikz Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Glad to know you have done your duty as a good Samaritan. No ODN thread left untrolled! Why would you call the truth, which has repeated itself at least three times in the past, trolling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Diorno Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Total rubbish, you just spearheaded a war to get revenge for things that happened between 1 and 3 years ago. The world we live in post Karma war says people are judged and often crushed because of their past. ODN are bound by their past just like NPO and the section of the Hegemony that didnt jump a couple of weeks earlier. These are MKs rules and you dont get to change them after fighting a war with that at its core.Saying that they can drop and sign any treaties they like, it seems the difference now is they are leaving themselves no back door out, which is their modus operandi until disproved by their actions and not their words. MK didn't spearhead anything, NPO did, in reality MK was but one of many shields that came together for a unified defense. I would also like to see evidence of any alliance that has been crushed because of their past post karma, because as far as I know that hasn't happened. ODN isn't doing anything wrong here, they are merely trimming their foreign responsibilities to a level they are comfortable with. Everyone should stop being so damn anal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 ODN isn't doing anything wrong here, they are merely trimming their foreign responsibilities to a level they are comfortable with. Everyone should stop being so damn anal. I never said they did anything wrong, my issue was someone who recently waged war predominately for past issues saying past issues shouldn't be used to judge alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Total rubbish, you just spearheaded a war to get revenge for things that happened between 1 and 3 years ago. The world we live in post Karma war says people are judged and often crushed because of their past. ODN are bound by their past just like NPO and the section of the Hegemony that didnt jump a couple of weeks earlier. These are MKs rules and you dont get to change them after fighting a war with that at its core.Saying that they can drop and sign any treaties they like, it seems the difference now is they are leaving themselves no back door out, which is their modus operandi until disproved by their actions and not their words. You give us way, way too much credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booter Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Just popping into say hello to old friends in ODN, Dio, and potato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Why would you call the truth, which has repeated itself at least three times in the past, trolling? Well a few reasons, really. 1. It's certainly not the truth. I'm sure you see it that way, but I would hardly consider you a reliable source. 2. This thread is about canceling 5 totally unrelated treaties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell Scream Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Remember when alliances announced that they canceled PIATS and NAPs and the threads didn't reach 19 pages? I do too, why did this one reach 19? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) Remember when alliances announced that they canceled PIATS and NAPs and the threads didn't reach 19 pages? I do too, why did this one reach 19? I don't know, because ODN canceling treaties is a very normal occurrence. Edited September 27, 2009 by Poobah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 What the hell are all you guys even arguing about anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Total rubbish, you just spearheaded a war to get revenge for things that happened between 1 and 3 years ago. The world we live in post Karma war says people are judged and often crushed because of their past. ODN are bound by their past just like NPO and the section of the Hegemony that didnt jump a couple of weeks earlier. These are MKs rules and you dont get to change them after fighting a war with that at its core.Saying that they can drop and sign any treaties they like, it seems the difference now is they are leaving themselves no back door out, which is their modus operandi until disproved by their actions and not their words. I spearheaded the Karma War? Neat! Seriously though, I rather enjoy your fan fiction, but the truth is a bunch of alliances loosely coalesced under the Karma banner when certain alliances, that would later come to be known as the Hegemony, threw diplomacy to the curb and attacked an alliance mid-negotiations. Spin it as you wish, it doesn't change the fact that we merely took a reactionary stand. But that's a whole different topic, and one that is prone to an immense deal of varying, heated debate, so I'd prefer to bow out on this one. Your little diatribe didn't really disprove my point though. Any alliance can at any point change - our pasts do not bind us in the sense that they prevent us from changing if that's what we so desire. We are not slaves to our past, as we all have reasonable free will here. If the NPO, if ODN, if anyone wants to or wanted to change, they can and they could. Nay-sayers claiming you're the same exact thing you once were doesn't make it have to be so. But ultimately, as has been said a few times by a few people, time will be the telling factor here, in ODN or in anyone else's case. As for those complaining that this thread is still going on, your continued posting isn't going to help it fall to page 2. And really, seeing as how little is happening in CN at the moment on the public stage, god forbid members debate and participate in what little there is. We could all ignore this and all other threads, and let the game atrophy, but what would be the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinner Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 interesting decisions. i am sure you have good reason though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomede Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Just popping into say hello to old friends in ODN, Dio, and potato.Hi. how are you? I am fine. What the hell are all you guys even arguing about anymore? Good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 What the hell are all you guys even arguing about anymore? You'll have to read all 19 pages to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twizzler Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I don't know, because ODN canceling treaties is a very normal occurrence. If its normal, why is it still such a big deal? To me, that would make seem even less interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Of course MK spearheaded the Karma War. Archon is single-handedly the entire Coven, surviving down to the modern day. Do you think it a coincidence that he just "appeared" one day around the same time that the Coven was discovered and dismantled? Nay, he is a clone body into which all the Coven members transferred their collective consciousness to create the ultimate Puppet Master! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 If its normal, why is it still such a big deal? To me, that would make seem even less interesting. That's why I said I don't know why it's such a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Remember when alliances announced that they canceled PIATS and NAPs and the threads didn't reach 19 pages? I do too, why did this one reach 19? For the same reason that GGA threads go on for longer than they should - people like poking fun at alliances who have done dumb things in the past. This may be an attempt to sort out ODN's sorry reputation but until that actually comes to fruition expect the jibes to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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