Scorbolt Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 What I don't think a lot of you get is that there just aren't a lot of us with warchests left. A lot of us are in bill lock. Only 2 TPF members have not fought in this war. Everyone else has been out there getting nuked. NPO had a lot of banks stay hippy the whole war... We didn't. Should we have kept a reserve? Maybe. But at the risk of sounding like Warbud, it is what it is.-Bama So because you opted to chose an unrestrained fighting strategy to inflict the most damage upon the alliances you were engaged with they should then let you off easier because of it? I personally would expect to see greater reparations if my alliance had taken this approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 (edited) So, the logic behind the OP is that the longer one stays at war honoring their treaties,the harsher are the terms they should expect?Wow, that's just h...nvm I should just go look up "Karma" in a dictionary (again) I guess. What doesn't make sense about that to you? Yes. TPF and mhawk specifically wanted to go play roll-an-AA again, attacked and underestimated the world's resolve, then refused to back down, raising the cost of defense of OV and the future with every day they kept fighting. The more you drink, the higher the tab goes. Edited July 25, 2009 by Schattenmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 These terms are eminently fair. They are harsh, but TPF was one of the key players of the hegemony and one of the main instigators of this war. They are proportional lighter than NPO's and they are only in effect for 90 days. I'd take it and run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoiL Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 (edited) So, the logic behind the OP is that the longer one stays at war honoring their treaties,the harsher are the terms they should expect?Wow, that's just h...nvm I should just go look up "Karma" in a dictionary (again) I guess. Even if that were the logic, these terms are hardly harsh. Edited July 25, 2009 by SpoiL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 ITT NPO members try to lecture others on peace. Sometimes you wonder if you have the wrong people advocating for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcades057 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 What doesn't make sense about that to you? Yes. TPF and mhawk specifically wanted to go play roll-an-AA again, attacked and underestimated the world's resolve, then refused to back down, raising the cost of defense of OV and the future with every day they kept fighting. The more you drink, the higher the tab goes. The more you repeat a line of BS, the more dumbasses flock to your standard. That doesn't make the line of BS that you spout any truer; it merely makes your circle of friends look more clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinite Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 (edited) It was kinda cool when you were holding out for NPO, but now you're just being silly. Trying to roll the hard six? Edited July 25, 2009 by Trinite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 The more you repeat a line of BS, the more dumbasses flock to your standard. That doesn't make the line of BS that you spout any truer; it merely makes your circle of friends look more clueless. This is probably the best explanation I've seen for how Pacifica managed to accumulate so many allies in its day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddog241 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 TPF should have taken the terms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoiL Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 The more you repeat a line of BS, the more dumbasses flock to your standard. That doesn't make the line of BS that you spout any truer; it merely makes your circle of friends look more clueless. Ok, but the statement he said is true. What is going on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I just think the entire situation is hilarious. TPF got its $@! beat because it started a war along with NPO and Co, then depended on the charity of the people it aggressed against, and is now crying because the charity's not there. Keep up the good work, MK, PC, etc. Don't let third parties get in the middle of these talks and water them down; they're already diluted enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I don't buy that in the least. Neither does Bilrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocity111 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 This is probably the best explanation I've seen for how Pacifica managed to accumulate so many allies in its day. Nominate this for winning the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Keep up the good work, MK, PC, etc. Don't let third parties get in the middle of these talks and water them down; they're already diluted enough. Yeah it's not like mhawk ever gave MK white peace! Oh wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 What I don't think a lot of you get is that there just aren't a lot of us with warchests left. A lot of us are in bill lock. Only 2 TPF members have not fought in this war. Everyone else has been out there getting nuked. NPO had a lot of banks stay hippy the whole war... We didn't. Should we have kept a reserve? Maybe. But at the risk of sounding like Warbud, it is what it is.-Bama It would take 2 TPF nations sending money to pay the money reps within the time period, 3 within the 6 months. The tech could relatively easily be paid via tech deals, with outside aid to the senders, by nations with tech on hand, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 The more you repeat a line of BS, the more dumbasses flock to your standard. That doesn't make the line of BS that you spout any truer; it merely makes your circle of friends look more clueless. Why are you insulting TPF in the thread that you should be using to garner sympathy for them? TPF believed its own !@#$%^&* for far too long, now they look clueless. Ok, but the statement he said is true.What is going on here? You give Arcades too much credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdgus Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 These terms are eminently fair. They are harsh, but TPF was one of the key players of the hegemony and one of the main instigators of this war. They are proportional lighter than NPO's and they are only in effect for 90 days. I'd take it and run. Minimum of 90 days. Even if that were the logic, these terms are hardly harsh. But according to the OP that is the logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcades057 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Ok, but the statement he said is true.What is going on here? SethB spied. OV refused to kick him out. OV was rolled. Karma saw that as the perfect time to launch their planned attacks. TORN and NPO threw the first punch; TPF did the negotiating; SethB did the spying that began it all. To say that TPF is responsible, or that NPO is responsible is victor's history. To then repeat the same line again and again is either indicative of a mental condition or someone being willfully ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 This is just silly. The terms may be "harsh" after all this time of war, but you can't have honestly expected much better, and you can't honestly expect to get much better at this point, and certainly not by flipping off people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Yeah it's not like mhawk ever gave MK white peace! Oh wait... I was referring to the NPO peace talks, but I can forgive you for not knowing as much as the Shadow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord GVChamp Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 And 9,000 tech to Mushroom Kingdom taking back what TPF took from C&G in the noCB war... This is not an alliance that deserves white peace or an extremely easy peace...We desire peace, and the reasonable terms we have offered remain open whenever TPF can bring themselves to accept them. Bwahahahahhaa. NPO lying to me didn't work. You think YOUR lies are going to convince me anymore? It's very simple: you're winning a war. You're continuing to attack them. That means you don't want peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Paul Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 As someone who has been inside the PC war room, and heard a million stories about PC .vs. TPF, I think it's pretty safe to say that TPF will never ever survive this war. No seriously. I wonder what Zenith will do when their leash is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcades057 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 You give Arcades too much credit. This coming from you is rather amusing. Where would you be without the Pacifican press to copy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Bwahahahahhaa. NPO lying to me didn't work. You think YOUR lies are going to convince me anymore?It's very simple: you're winning a war. You're continuing to attack them. That means you don't want peace. That "argument" is absurd and stupid and you should feel bad for repeating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalTrevor Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Yeah it's not like mhawk ever gave MK white peace! Oh wait... This thread is about an alliances actions being paid for by the alliance, not one mans past actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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