rsoxbronco1 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Quite simply far and away the single costliest conflict Bob has saw and possibly ever will see.Between the losses and the reps NPO will have lost over 1,000,000 tech, and the staggaring infra number listed above. I wouldn't be surprised if total losses for Pacifica are between $100,000,000,000 and $500,000,000,000 maybe even higher than that. That's in the 100's of billions for those who don't want to read all those zeros. You can probably add up all their wars and reps and will fall short of 10% of NPO's financial loss in this one war. Then you throw in that they lost 400 members, that's like having a sanctioned alliance disband and probably is a decent portion of the 4000+ nations who called it quits and left CN during this war. I wish there were a way to calculate the opportunity cost of remaining in peacemode for 1.5-2 months after terms were offered as opposed to taking the 2 weeks of war and lighter reps. edit: wording Edited July 21, 2009 by rsoxbronco1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauner Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I too have made a graph. Warning: graph for entertainment purposes only. edit: graph edited to be more awesome. thats probably more telling than the first graph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogeWilliam Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Staggering losses between april and may. And I concur with whoever said it would be nice to see the opposing sides stats compiled as well. That would be hard though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenderek Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Those are some nice slides right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yeah, it's really quite a miracle that I lost 60k NS in peacemode... clearly you just sold it off! or didn't you get the memo NPO didn't bother to fight this war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Nice work, baseballer. I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Metternich Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 i wonder what the results are for peace/war mode nations. by that, i mean how many switched to peace mode before and after. good work though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen MoP Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yeah, it's really quite a miracle that I lost 60k NS in peacemode... You obviously used the same "launch nukes from peace-mode by selling infra" exploit that I used. I landed 74 nukes (I have no idea how many I launched) without actually fighting the war. Karma would have been totally doomed if I'd actually left peace-mode and fought! I wish I'd have thought of doing that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Metternich Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I wonder why the nukes rise in june Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime minister Johns Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Quite simply far and away the single costliest conflict Bob has saw and possibly ever will see.Between the losses and the reps NPO will have lost over 1,000,000 tech, and the staggaring infra number listed above. I wouldn't be surprised if total losses for Pacifica are between $100,000,000,000 and $500,000,000,000 maybe even higher than that. That's in the 100's of billions for those who don't want to read all those zeros. You can probably add up all their wars and reps and will fall short of 10% of NPO's financial loss in this one war. Then you throw in that they lost 400 members, that's like having a sanctioned alliance disband and probably is a decent portion of the 4000+ nations who called it quits and left CN during this war. 4000+ nations lost to the game forever. That is the price of this war. Major recruiting needs to be done outside to get CN to rebuild, we need more players. Edited July 21, 2009 by Prime minister Johns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan1 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 awesome charts thanks for sharing and the time you put in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphon88 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'm amused by the usage of NPO 'losing' their Nukes. oooopsdaisy, where did they go? =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseballer790 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I wonder why the nukes rise in june People tend to buy nukes during war time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueon462 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'm amused by the usage of NPO 'losing' their Nukes. oooopsdaisy, where did they go? =p I deposited 50 or so to my enemies... check with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Metternich Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 People tend to buy nukes during war time I thought it'd be hard since your infra goes down, they're quite expensive and other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentkiller Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) 500k, not very expensive. Edited July 21, 2009 by silentkiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) I thought it'd be hard since your infra goes down, they're quite expensive and other stuff. Ehm,....lol Ehm,....ehm, I can do this,...yes,..lol? Its called having a warchest. You should maybe get introduced with the concept. But to add more substance, nice to see we managed to keep a lot of our wonders. Edited July 21, 2009 by Branimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseballer790 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Ehm,....lolEhm,....ehm, I can do this,...yes,..lol? Its called having a warchest. You should maybe get introduced with the concept. But to add more substance, nice to see we managed to keep a lot of our wonders. The fact that Wonders can't be destroyed by outside forces probably helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 The fact that Wonders can't be destroyed by outside forces probably helps Actually, my point mainly referring to the fact that the wonder count indicates our most developed nations pre war have managed to ride out the war and live through it, meaning not surrender or just quit the game. That is positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseballer790 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Actually, my point mainly referring to the fact that the wonder count indicates our most developed nations pre war have managed to ride out the war and live through it, meaning not surrender or just quit the game. That is positive. Oh, okay. You should be lossing quite a few wonders/improvements because of the surrender terms, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Oh, okay. You should be lossing quite a few wonders/improvements because of the surrender terms, now. Yes improvements, but not wonders (only in potential sense as there is a moratorium on buying) and a great kudos to karma forces for that, for being kind enough to drop that demand from our surrender treaty after we declined the original proposal. Edited July 21, 2009 by Branimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseballer790 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Yes improvements, but not wonders (only in potential sense as there is a moratorium on buying) and a great kudos to karma forces for that, for being kind enough to drop that demand from our surrender treaty after we declined the original proposal. I wish you guys best of luck with the Reps/Rebuilding. I wish I could help but the surrender terms won't let me aid your nations Edited July 21, 2009 by baseballer790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owney OSullivan Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I wish the NPO the best of luck and look forward to a robust rebuilding process! o/ NPO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 The nations lost count is off. They had 300 or so in the applicant AA before the war, and they went down to about 50 at one time about a month into the war (haven't checked since then). Plus they still recruited heavily during the war and gained yet more members through that. So in reality they lost about half of their members. I suspect a few more will leave now, but they'll be canceled out by NPO nations who were just hiding off the AA rejoining the AA, so you can't really count any additional losses there when all's said and done. And to the comment about people leaving the game, during GWIII there were 40,000 players. After the war the numbers quickly plummeted to about 35,000, and through further curbstomps down to about 28k... not all NPO's fault but certainly a good portion of it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen MoP Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 And to the comment about people leaving the game, during GWIII there were 40,000 players. After the war the numbers quickly plummeted to about 35,000, and through further curbstomps down to about 28k... not all NPO's fault but certainly a good portion of it was. Now there are 26.7k. Karma's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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