enderland Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) So you are saying he used you to get to 0 soldiers? I'm not sure what he said but I think it is pretty obvious that an aid offer with exactly the remainder of my soldiers just might have been intended. Offering them that in order to piss me off you mean? You care to deny such? I will in fact admit that was precisely the plan. It would rather destroy your arguments regarding the situation. It's still their loss(es). edit for logs <ENDERLAND> you have an open aid slot? because I totally will lol <ENDERLAND> as long as you take the 1 soldier too <ENDERLAND> ^^ <ChristianTrojans> lol. why 1 soldier <ChristianTrojans> lol <ENDERLAND> mainly to piss of heinousone tbh <ChristianTrojans> oh i see <ENDERLAND> since someone else is going to get it for sure, and it'd just be funnier if it was you Edited July 16, 2009 by ender land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Navy Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 To be honest I don't care what FnKA would have done. I've taken the opportunity to raid someone, under the rules by which Grämlins abide. And that doesn't come along often, so I wasn't going to not do it because of something an alliance I have no affiliation with whatsoever, may/may not have done. I know you don't care what FnKA would have done. That's the problem imo. You've taken the opportunity to help your friend while he goes nuke rogue and it allows you to benifit too. So what if FnKA gets it in the end eh? They have already been told in this thread to basically shut up because they couldn't do anything about it. If this were happening to a nation in one of the sanctioned alliances for instance, would you take the same opportunity and make this deal with your friend? I seriously doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) I'm not sure what he said but I think it is pretty obvious that an aid offer with exactly the remainder of my soldiers just might have been intended.I will in fact admit that was precisely the plan. It would rather destroy your arguments regarding the situation. It's still their loss(es). So you are saying that you intended to use the Gramlins member to empty out your soldiers and you PAID an attacking nation in tech to aid you in your war against CT because you having no soldiers at that time did indeed aid you against the nation that was much stronger in ground attacks. This is your official statement? Also, while knowing that you think so highly of me to go to such lengths to discredit me, I dont think this effectively destroys my arguments but instead gives even more credibility to them that you would go so far. Honestly, we both know the truth. You have one soldier left and you want it gone. I am but an excuse used to try and get that done. Edited July 16, 2009 by HeinousOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feardaram Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 This is the real Karma war. CT had it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I'm not sure what he said but I think it is pretty obvious that an aid offer with exactly the remainder of my soldiers just might have been intended.I will in fact admit that was precisely the plan. It would rather destroy your arguments regarding the situation. It's still their loss(es). edit for logs <ENDERLAND> you have an open aid slot? because I totally will lol <ENDERLAND> as long as you take the 1 soldier too <ENDERLAND> ^^ <ChristianTrojans> lol. why 1 soldier <ChristianTrojans> lol <ENDERLAND> mainly to piss of heinousone tbh <ChristianTrojans> oh i see <ENDERLAND> since someone else is going to get it for sure, and it'd just be funnier if it was you For that alone, I don't know why I ever hated you. That is hilarious, straight up hilarious. Doing something because you think it's funny is the only justification anyone ever needs for doing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kommissar Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Alright, this thread has evolved beyond the IC regulation of this forum, and thus gets moved to the OWF, so you can endulge yourselfs in debating more OOC. That said, if you have issues with a moderator, or issues about a certain action of a mod, I suggest you follow the official guidelines to get it solved, but you don't complain about it in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I know you don't care what FnKA would have done. That's the problem imo.You've taken the opportunity to help your friend while he goes nuke rogue and it allows you to benifit too. So what if FnKA gets it in the end eh? They have already been told in this thread to basically shut up because they couldn't do anything about it. If this were happening to a nation in one of the sanctioned alliances for instance, would you take the same opportunity and make this deal with your friend? I seriously doubt it. Would you rather more FnKa nations be nuked daily? They wouldn't be gaining anything out of this not happening save another several thousand infra lost. Unless you think that the like 50M worth of infra I have left now (and will have much less of tomorrow, and the next day) is worth destroying at a (marginally) higher rate? Probably less considering Omas has a much higher tech/wrc than most eligible FnKaers. So you are saying that you intended to use the Gramlins member to empty out your soldiers and you PAID an attacking nation in tech to aid you in your war against CT because you having no soldiers at that time did indeed aid you against the nation that was much stronger in ground attacks. This is your official statement? What else could have been the motivation? I thought that was on the large list of things I said earlier already. If not LMK and I'll add it because yes, in fact, I aided away my soldiers to one of those attacking me (who is a friend of mine /amsg Hi Omas!) so that I would be placed into a higher strategic position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Would you rather more FnKa nations be nuked daily? They wouldn't be gaining anything out of this not happening save another several thousand infra lost.Unless you think that the like 50M worth of infra I have left now (and will have much less of tomorrow, and the next day) is worth destroying at a (marginally) higher rate? Probably less considering Omas has a much higher tech/wrc than most eligible FnKaers. What else could have been the motivation? I thought that was on the large list of things I said earlier already. If not LMK and I'll add it because yes, in fact, I aided away my soldiers to one of those attacking me (who is a friend of mine /amsg Hi Omas!) so that I would be placed into a higher strategic position. Thank you, I will finish by saying that I dont blame you at all for what you are doing. I do think on a higher level of alliance relations that there is an issue but I am not going to go into that here. Thanks for the fun everyone but now that this is an OOC thread there is no point for me in continuing because this really isnt an OOC issue for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I had the same thing happen to me when someone went rogue on me, back when I was in NPO. They filled the guy's slots because he was their friend, and I still remember who it was, last I saw they were in MK. Hmmm, interesting. When King of Sparta went rogue on Dawny, we got one of his slotfillers' wars removed, and dinged the other two. We wound up rolling Illuminati partly because they were supporting the slotfillers, incidentally. We're not after them anymore tho; one punishment is enough. What else could have been the motivation? I thought that was on the large list of things I said earlier already. If not LMK and I'll add it because yes, in fact, I aided away my soldiers to one of those attacking me (who is a friend of mine /amsg Hi Omas!) so that I would be placed into a higher strategic position. How in any way can you defend that action as ethical? You're cooperating with a nation at war with you in order to further your wars against other nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Thanks for the fun everyone but now that this is an OOC thread there is no point for me in continuing because this really isnt an OOC issue for me. As you were one of those who greatly contributed to bringing it there I find this a bit perplexing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 As you were one of those who greatly contributed to bringing it there I find this a bit perplexing I dont see how me questioning your IC actions brings this OOC. Go ahead and spin though, for me the spin game is over as this is now OOC. Goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 How in any way can you defend that action as ethical?You're cooperating with a nation at war with you in order to further your wars against other nations. I am not really trying to, if you read a previous post you will see I have admitted that I am planning on using every trick I know in this roguery. If you think that this is bad just wait till tomorrow, or until one of CTs trade partners posts the message I sent them. Yeah, pretty much - I haven't nuked FuRy more than once in spite of his continued attacks against my nation, nor have I nuked the NEW guy or the Gremlin, since both them are not nuking me (not that they get the chance since I've been nuked 20 min after update or less daily). I guess I SHOULD nuke FuRy daily since he is trying to destroy me and given his warchest state it probably would have taken him out of the war quickly and effectively screwed his nation but meh, he's a friend of mine, and even though I have plenty of nukes to spare, have chosen not to nuke him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentFury Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I apperciate and approve that message Seriously though this hasent died down yet wtf let it be whats done is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Thought this might be pertinent to the situation - I can give more logs from before in case people want them for some reason. [22:32] <ChristianTrojans> i cant wait to nuke you with the wrc[22:32] <ChristianTrojans> i think you are a complete prik [22:32] <ENDERLAND> [22:32] <ChristianTrojans> lol. [22:33] <ENDERLAND> I hope you do [22:33] <ENDERLAND> I have a bunch of tech I want to get rid of [22:33] <ENDERLAND> and nuking is far easier than aiding [22:33] <ChristianTrojans> but why [22:33] <ChristianTrojans> why do you want to lose it! [22:33] <ENDERLAND> why not? [22:34] <ChristianTrojans> you wierd [22:34] <ChristianTrojans> i bet you are middle aged single fat guy.lol [22:34] <ENDERLAND> heh. [22:34] <ChristianTrojans> lol. [22:34] <ENDERLAND> that's not really called for [22:34] <ChristianTrojans> you just sit on comp all day.lol [22:35] <ChristianTrojans> oh sorry [22:35] <ChristianTrojans> not trying to be horible [22:35] <ChristianTrojans> just guessing [22:35] <ChristianTrojans> sorry just overwieght then [22:35] <ChristianTrojans> not fat [22:35] <ENDERLAND> ... [22:35] <ChristianTrojans> huh? [22:36] <ChristianTrojans> ... [22:36] <ChristianTrojans> what is ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drostan Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) If you think that this is bad just wait till tomorrow, or until one of CTs trade partners posts the message I sent them. This promise amuses and intrigues me... tell me more. Edited July 16, 2009 by Drostan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I am not really trying to, if you read a previous post you will see I have admitted that I am planning on using every trick I know in this roguery. If you think that this is bad just wait till tomorrow, or until one of CTs trade partners posts the message I sent them. You have claimed that you are an idealist in the thread, pursuing CT out of a sense of justice. Actions speak louder than words, and your actions make you out to be a simple barroom brawler with a grudge against a former alliancemate. I'm beginning to see why Ephie got along so well with some Grämlins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Thought this might be pertinent to the situation - I can give more logs from before in case people want them for some reason. That's just too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Someone please give NPO peace. Some people have been unsufferable since they were forcibly torn from the bosom of Mother Red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 You have claimed that you are an idealist in the thread, pursuing CT out of a sense of justice. Actions speak louder than words, and your actions make you out to be a simple barroom brawler with a grudge against a former alliancemate. I did? Where did I claim that? I have said that I am attacking CT because he got his nation through less than honorable means. I am removing some of those benefits. I am going to use every means in my power to accomplish that goal. Why? Because I've learned quite a bit about CN over the years and I might as well use it. One does not go "rogue" intending to be "nice" to the person they rogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sileath Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Thought this might be pertinent to the situation - I can give more logs from before in case people want them for some reason. LMAO @ OOC attacks in that log. I'm already supporting you ender so this doesn't really change anything I support Rebel Virginia like a wonderbra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I did? Where did I claim that?I have said that I am attacking CT because he got his nation through less than honorable means. I am removing some of those benefits. I am going to use every means in my power to accomplish that goal. Why? Because I've learned quite a bit about CN over the years and I might as well use it. One does not go "rogue" intending to be "nice" to the person they rogue. You claimed it here: I am fighting for an ideal I hold. I am not doing this because I hate him. You also claim you're doing this because he got his nation through less than honorable means. So why fight him with less than honorable means? -Bama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 LMAO @ OOC attacks in that log.I'm already supporting you ender so this doesn't really change anything I support Rebel Virginia like a wonderbra. Oh my god, that made me laugh so hard You're really good at these, man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Thought this might be pertinent to the situation - I can give more logs from before in case people want them for some reason. Yup, that's the CT we knew. -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidMercury Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 OOC attacks FTW....lol. I stick by my guns, go get him ender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Quezada Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) For honor o/ Interesting logs btw, have giving me a lot of insight on CT's claimed change. On another note, thanks alpreb I also think ender's 2:1 tech/infra ratio is awesome Edited July 16, 2009 by Luis Quezada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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