liam riordan Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I like this thread. It shows how Vox thinks they have a great deal in this war. My brain just exploded, or did it implode? But buh?!? Screen or it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithgard Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Dear Alliances of the Karma bloc, I have received your surrender terms in good order. I thank you for your concern that I may not have received them properly, but I wish to let you know I have received all six of them in good order. My refusal to accept the terms and my steadfast resolution to return them to sender in no way mean to imply that I have received them in bad order. At this point in time I would like to cancel my subscription with you, and would like to no longer receive your individual surrender options. Kind regards, Mithgard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R&R-Viking Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'll not take up your sword, tis not the Viking way Speak for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smith Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) Darlings, I'd Rather do mary harney... Edited April 27, 2009 by Agent Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trint7 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I surrendered and followed all of the guidlines, but then I was attacked again by two nations. One of the nations attacked with a nuke after I had went to defcon 5 and decomissioned all the required military. I took much damage. To: trint7 From: whiteplague Date: 4/27/2009 12:58:45 AM Subject: Nuclear Attack Message: Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons by whiteplague. You lost 14577 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 178.611 miles of land, 59.537 technology, 178.611 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation. It is not right that the attacking nations will not follow surrender terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I surrendered and followed all of the guidlines, but then I was attacked again by two nations. One of the nations attacked with a nuke after I had went to defcon 5 and decomissioned all the required military. I took much damage.To: trint7 From: whiteplague Date: 4/27/2009 12:58:45 AM Subject: Nuclear Attack Message: Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons by whiteplague. You lost 14577 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 178.611 miles of land, 59.537 technology, 178.611 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation. It is not right that the attacking nations will not follow surrender terms. Did you tell the nations engaged with you that you surrendered? I would message them and try contact their alliance leadership to clarify. Good luck in finding peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I surrendered and followed all of the guidlines, but then I was attacked again by two nations. One of the nations attacked with a nuke after I had went to defcon 5 and decomissioned all the required military. I took much damage.To: trint7 From: whiteplague Date: 4/27/2009 12:58:45 AM Subject: Nuclear Attack Message: Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons by whiteplague. You lost 14577 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 178.611 miles of land, 59.537 technology, 178.611 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation. It is not right that the attacking nations will not follow surrender terms. Most nations are not aware one surrenders, in addition I wouldn't be shocked if said nations realized surrender terms were issued. You cannot expect every nation to simply follow suit instantly, there is always a communication lag in a process such as this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam riordan Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Most nations are not aware one surrenders, in addition I wouldn't be shocked if said nations realized surrender terms were issued. You cannot expect every nation to simply follow suit instantly, there is always a communication lag in a process such as this one. While this is true, shouldn't the attackers at least have the sense to glance at the AA? I hope this is only an isolated incident though, would not want a 'cruelty to POW's' scandal to happen. That's bad for the papers and upsets civilians at their breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havamil Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Speak for yourself. I'll not take up your sword, tis not the True Viking way Fixed it for ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 While this is true, shouldn't the attackers at least have the sense to glance at the AA?I hope this is only an isolated incident though, would not want a 'cruelty to POW's' scandal to happen. That's bad for the papers and upsets civilians at their breakfast. You could say that, but an AA can be ghosted and exploited to provide shelter to a nation. Thus by simply flying the AA it is not enough, not to mention in the heat of battle I'd assume most nations are not checking the AA of a nation. This incident will occur somewhat in the early days, coordination of thousands of nations tends to do that. It's simple logistics, not malicious intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heggo Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Exactly. Some people always fall through the cracks. It's just bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havamil Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 You could say that, but an AA can be ghosted and exploited to provide shelter to a nation. Thus by simply flying the AA it is not enough, not to mention in the heat of battle I'd assume most nations are not checking the AA of a nation.This incident will occur somewhat in the early days, coordination of thousands of nations tends to do that. It's simple logistics, not malicious intent. This is a reassuring thought for those thinking of surrendering. We will take your pixels even though you are trying to save them because see quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) This is a reassuring thought for those thinking of surrendering. We will take your pixels even though you are trying to save them because see quote This happens in every war. It is nothing but a misunderstanding and I am sure it will be dealt with properly. It is unfortunate and I hate to see it but it is the nature of the world we live in for a few people to either not follow orders or be unaware of the situation. Edited April 27, 2009 by KingSrqt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzie Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) I surrendered and followed all of the guidlines, but then I was attacked again by two nations. One of the nations attacked with a nuke after I had went to defcon 5 and decomissioned all the required military. I took much damage.To: trint7 From: whiteplague Date: 4/27/2009 12:58:45 AM Subject: Nuclear Attack Message: Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons by whiteplague. You lost 14577 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 178.611 miles of land, 59.537 technology, 178.611 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation. It is not right that the attacking nations will not follow surrender terms. As others have already said, you should message your attackers saying you have surrendered, as stated in the terms. Whiteplague hadn't received notification from myself at that time as I was in fact asleep. As much as I try to be online and keep my eye on the surrender thread, this thread, a million others, co-ordinate attacks myself as well as help organise my members, etc. it isn't my responsibility to babysit others, so if you didn't notify him, then there's not a lot I can do. To: whiteplague From: Mayzie Date: 4/27/2009 9:20:47 AMSubject: Trint7 has surrendered I didn't send him that until later on in the day, as you can see. Now if you still have a problem with one of my members, feel free to contact me in private and I'll see if we can come to some sort of resolution. Edited April 27, 2009 by Mayzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoche666 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) Karma? Edited April 27, 2009 by Neoche666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 This is a reassuring thought for those thinking of surrendering. We will take your pixels even though you are trying to save them because see quote Such things happen in war. It can be very hectic. Allies declare on allies by accident, surrenders are not communicated perfectly and sometimes fall through the cracks. No use whining about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havamil Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Such things happen in war. It can be very hectic. Allies declare on allies by accident, surrenders are not communicated perfectly and sometimes fall through the cracks. No use whining about it. Didn't this all kick off to get rid of that type of attitude? If you surrender there is a good chance you will still get hit, So deal with it and "No use Whining" O/ To The future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 If you surrender there is a good chance you will still get hit No one has said that. We've been saying the opposite. Stop looking for a fight where there isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian LaCroix Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 While this is true, shouldn't the attackers at least have the sense to glance at the AA?I hope this is only an isolated incident though, would not want a 'cruelty to POW's' scandal to happen. That's bad for the papers and upsets civilians at their breakfast. I must say, after declaring on someone I tend not to look at their AA. If my opponents wish to surrender, they'll have to tell me about it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havamil Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 You could say that, but an AA can be ghosted and exploited to provide shelter to a nation. Thus by simply flying the AA it is not enough, not to mention in the heat of battle I'd assume most nations are not checking the AA of a nation.This incident will occur somewhat in the early days, coordination of thousands of nations tends to do that. It's simple logistics, not malicious intent. No one has said that. We've been saying the opposite. Stop looking for a fight where there isn't one. i beg to differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConeBone69 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 i beg to differ Good thing Owned-You isn't part of Karma then, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havamil Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 It sure seems as though he is speaking for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyer Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Merciful terms. o/ Karma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) It sure seems as though he is speaking for them. Yes because when someone not apart of a loose coalition speaks about something from experience in the past, he is speaking for said coalition. Edited April 27, 2009 by Voodoo Nova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graves Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Considering this is a Karma surrender thread... Try looking at the surrender thread, you'll find it about 50/50. Jesus Christ, I hope you're not in a career field that involves math be cause you fail at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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