ComIntern discussions

[Stefano Palmieri]

We vote NO on negotiations. Yes she has attempted to bring peace in the past, however what good is that going to do now that she is siding with the scum we have been aiming to destroy? She may be the new face of the NC however we highly doubt that she, by any means, is the brains of it. So we Vote No for negotiating with the Nordic Scum who are using a new face as an attempt to worm there way out of annihilation.

EDIT:Grammar

Edited April 27, 2009 by Marquis Chris 1

[Centurius]

We second this motion and change our vote to no

[Markus Wilding]

Well, considering we just gave them some of our (outdated) rifles, we are on the fence about this. I unfortunetly cannot decide unless she can prove she can change the NC.

[JEDCJT]

Well, considering Sarah Tintagyl's international reputation, we would normally support negiotations, but the fact that she's the head of the Nordlandic Confederacy makes us err into making a decision. As such, we vote 'undecided.'

Edited April 27, 2009 by JEDCJT

[Imperator Azenquor]

Vaule votes Yea on negotiation, and Abstains on war. Should the ComIntern go to war, we would be able to offer logistical support and use of territory in the opening days. We would be able to militarily intervene shortly thereafter. (OOC: I've got a bucket load of finals going on, so if this war breaks out before Wednesday I won't be available to co-ordinate everything until then.)

[Markus Wilding]

After much consideration, we vote Yes to negotiations.

[Centurius]

Following more consideration we vote yes to negotiations.

[Lynneth]

Negotiate with Sarah Tintagyl

Yes - 6 vote(s)

No - 1 vote(s)

Undecided - 2 vote(s)

To vote: Beijing Corp., Dragonisia

However, now that Miss Tintagyl has retired from her position as head of the NC, should we still try to negotiate with the NC through her? It does seem she realized that she was in the wrong about the NC.

[Maelstrom Vortex]

Negotiate with Sarah Tintagyl

Yes - 6 vote(s)

No - 1 vote(s)

Undecided - 2 vote(s)

To vote: Beijing Corp., Dragonisia

However, now that Miss Tintagyl has retired from her position as head of the NC, should we still try to negotiate with the NC through her? It does seem she realized that she was in the wrong about the NC.

I vote yes towards negotiations and apply my signature as follows:

Maelstrom Vortex,

Chairman of the Dragonisian People's Francoist Socialist Meritocracy

[Sir Keshav IV]

No to Negotiations.

OOC: Sorry been shifting lost net for the past 3 days

[Lynneth]

Negotiate through Sarah Tintagyl with the NC

Yes - 7 vote(s)

No - 2 vote(s)

Undecided - 2 vote(s)

To vote: All have voted.

We ask New England to reconsider the vote. If they choose "no", then Canada shall be "tiebreaker", a first in the history of the ComIntern.

[Stefano Palmieri]

As she has resigned shouldn't this vote be considered null and void? Shouldn't this be the time we continue the preparations for the war that will definitely wipe the Nordic Scum off the face of the earth once and for all.

[Razgriz 2K9]

We are preparing for war, my friend, but like our head has said, maybe we can negotiate through Sarah.

[Stefano Palmieri]

We are preparing for war, my friend, but like our head has said, maybe we can negotiate through Sarah.

That path failed. 1st she tried mediating a meeting between us and the NC and no one showed up if you remember correctly. Secondly now that she has signed up to the Nordic Coalition and then ditched them soon after, so there is no reason to have her involved what so ever. We should drop the idea of negotiations and end the Nordic trash's reign over Europe.

[JEDCJT]

After considerations, we hereby change our vote to 'No'. The Nordic Confederacy had proved their true colors again and again.

OOC: Lynneth, here's your chance! =3

[Markus Wilding]

As we have only recently heard of Sarah's resignation, we will revert our vote to No. If we cannot negotiate through them directly, then what is the point? I say we wipe the Nordic scum off the face of the planet and free Europe from these dirtbags.

[Lynneth]

Negotiate through Sarah Tintagyl with the NC

Yes - 6 vote(s)

No - 5 vote(s)

Undecided - 0 vote(s)

To vote: All have voted.

With the arguments brought by Cainette, international relations and careful deliberation, Canada will vote no.

Thus, with 54.55% voting for negotiations and 45.45% voting no, the needed majority of 66% has not been reached.

As such, we ask all ComIntern members to continue the preparations for war, mobilize the armies and ready the navies and airforces.

Additionally, we will have to plan from where we will attack. Alvonia made the proposal of taking Iceland first, which could easily serve as staging point from which a full invasion could be started. Other suggestions?

Edited April 28, 2009 by Lynneth

[Centurius]

Negotiate through Sarah Tintagyl with the NC

Yes - 6 vote(s)

No - 5 vote(s)

Undecided - 0 vote(s)

To vote: All have voted.

With the arguments brought by Cainette, international relations and careful deliberation, Canada will vote no.

Thus, with 54.55% voting for negotiations and 45.45% voting no, the needed majority of 66% has not been reached.

As such, we ask all ComIntern members to continue the preparations for war, mobilize the armies and ready the navies and airforces.

Additionally, we will have to plan from where we will attack. Alvonia made the proposal of taking Iceland first, which could easily serve as staging point from which a full invasion could be started. Other suggestions?

The Protectorate in Russia, advantages are you already have land to invade through(AWS) and it would serve a more strategic goal as it would be in the heart of the Nords, however we consider the best course of action a combination of 3. An invasion of Iceland and the Russian Protectorate while we bomb infrastructure in Greenland so they cannot send reinforcements or launch a counter attack on Canada.

[JEDCJT]

Additionally, we will have to plan from where we will attack. Alvonia made the proposal of taking Iceland first, which could easily serve as staging point from which a full invasion could be started. Other suggestions?

We propose a two-part operation, to be launched at roughly the same time. Firstly, a major offensive would be launched in Greenland (Canada controls the vast majority of it, we believe) as to take full control of it and deny the Nordlanic Confederacy the opportunity to use it as a staging base for an attack on us.

Secondly, an operation would be launched to seize Iceland, as suggested before. The plan would be coordinated and launched at the same time as to give the Nordlandic Confederacy little opportunity and time to mount an effective response. Besides, a bombing campaign would be conducted from the Canary Islands. As our ally, Tahoe controls the entrance to the Mediterranean, we would have no problem gaining access to the Med -- although we may need to plan any further into that.

Only our two cents.

Edited April 28, 2009 by JEDCJT

[Sir Keshav IV]

Might I say, Iceland is a bit to far from where we are currently located and I propose we attack from two corners and meet up at one point,

I say we attack from the East through AWS and Iceland will be attacked by the American Countries. We work our towards Marrihamm Republic and then move south.

Thoughts?

[Lynneth]

OOC: Note that Triyun is currently locked, so we can't do anything to him. He in turn can't attack us.

IC:

Opening two or three fronts would indeed be very beneficial. Perhaps the Asian ComIntern members should advance through former Slavorussia, also sending some forces to bolster Mariehamm's position, while the American ComIntern opens two fronts - one in the northern NC, one in the south, through the mediterranean.

OOC: I think I'll make a map for a proposal of advances later. Too tired right now.

[Sarah Tintagyl]

To: The Heads of States of the ComIntern

From: Sarah Tintagyl, Lady Protector of the Hanseatic Commonwealth

Excellencies,

I have just received your missive that I will not be able to get my chance to speak with you and while that is all fine and good, I give you this warning. Yes, the Nords committed a great crime in invading Slavorussia and however we believe this crime should be solved, understand this. You have given no chance for peace to come out of this, as Nordland had died in the past and you will possibly kill it now what is stopping from another bloc or power from rising and causing the same problem or heaven forbid the ComIntern becoming something that you have said you fight against.

When this war is over, no matter who wins peace will not be achieved and the amount of killing in this war to both your citizens and European citizens will be immense. Chairman Leclerc, you are my friend and a wise leader, one of the wisest in the world and I know that you of all people can lead this world of our to peace if war is the only way. I beg of you to reconsider your action and seek diplomatic efforts and I say this not as a European or anything else the world would label me as, but as a young girl that will surely cry when she sees the blood and massacre on the television or as a White Cross official. I understand that war may come and I wish you all luck and I did with the Nords. Whomever wins, please, please, let this be the last great war.

Also to the Head of State of Cainette you who have called me scum and you who seems to speak the loudest about this coming war, I know that Cainette has fought in battle before, how can you be so anxious for war? What ever the cost. For those that spoke the loudest in turning away diplomacy and trusting towards war, know that the lives of men rest on the decisions of the leader. After the Gebiv war and what had happened to my country I was not able to sleep well ever again and am still visited by those horrible thoughts. I hope you are ready for that kind of death.

Sincerely,

Sarah Tintagyl

Enclosed in each letter as well was a small white flower as the one that Sarah and pulled down during her resignation speech.

[Ranather]

ooc: I promise this will be my only post here unless I go red.

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IC:

"To the esteemed members of the ComIntern.

Though I understand your position, and respect you for upholding your ideals, I have noticed that in some other diplomatic channels that some of your members have referred to all Nords as 'vile scum'. As the leader of a neutral Nordic state not following the 'party lines' of the more traditional Nordic states, I find these comments in the extreme of rash generalization and overall rather distasteful. Let not the actions of a few Nords cast an ill shadow upon us all.

Thank you."

[Lynneth]

ooc: I promise this will be my only post here unless I go red.

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IC:

"To the esteemed members of the ComIntern.

Though I understand your position, and respect you for upholding your ideals, I have noticed that in some other diplomatic channels that some of your members have referred to all Nords as 'vile scum'. As the leader of a neutral Nordic state not following the 'party lines' of the more traditional Nordic states, I find these comments in the extreme of rash generalization and overall rather distasteful. Let not the actions of a few Nords cast an ill shadow upon us all.

Thank you."

OOC: GOGOGO

IC:

Reply to the Südenreich

Completely understandable.

We will ask our other members to keep the slander down. We do not need to step down onto the level of the NC.

Regards,

Leclerc

*End of*

Ladies and Gentlemen, I ask you to heed the message from the Südenreich. They have - until now - not exercised the same cultural destruction as the Nordic Confederacy and as such I would as you to refrain from calling all Nords scum. Either specify or do not step down onto their level at all.

That is all.

[Ranather]

OOC: GOGOGO

IC:

Reply to the Südenreich

Completely understandable.

We will ask our other members to keep the slander down. We do not need to step down onto the level of the NC.

Regards,

Leclerc

*End of*

Ladies and Gentlemen, I ask you to heed the message from the Südenreich. They have - until now - not exercised the same cultural destruction as the Nordic Confederacy and as such I would as you to refrain from calling all Nords scum. Either specify or do not step down onto their level at all.

That is all.

"I am pleased to see you are a reasonable man, though of course I expected no less. May fortune be with you."