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Here we will discuss everything related to the ComIntern.

OOC: Only members and applicants may post in here. OOC is generally not allowed, something that is quite rare in my threads, but necessary.

IC: We already have two things to discuss.

First, where will the place of our meetings be? Please propose a location. Once we have at least two locations, voting will begin.

We propose the Nakheel Tower in Ferinh.

Secondly, with two of our members already actively engaged in the war in Eurasia, we propose that, without much voting, the rest of us come and help the Russian cause. [Outdated information]

The primary HQ of the ComIntern is located in Ferinh, Canada.

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The secondary HQ is located in New York, New England.

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Between the 42th and 48th streets in New York City, on First Avenue.

Also, the treaty again for those who wish to apply.

The Communist International

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Preamble:

The world is a heavily industrialized place. However, the world cannot function without the workers of the world. The countries that have come to sign this treaty have seen this beacon of truth and have embraced it with communism or hard socialism. They will help the workers of the world one step closer in uniting.

Article 1-Non Aggression

The signatories of this pact agree to never fight each other. As comrades it is wrong to fight amongst each other, when we need to be working for the greater good for the classless world.

Article 2-Mutual Defense

If any signatory of this pact has their independence violated all the signatories are required to come to their comrades aid, whatever the cost.

Article 3-Optional Aggression

For the benefit of the greater good of our comrades aggressive war may be required. If a comrade is involved in an aggressive war, the other signatories of the pact will vote collectively on whether to aid the aggressor. If a 50% majority passes all signatories will join in and fight for their comrade. [struck from the treaty, through a vote]

Article 3-Mutual Nuclear Retaliation

If a comrade is hit by a nuclear weapon or any other WMD, their comrades are to unleash their nuclear arsenal on the offending nation.

Article 4-Trade

As we are all comrades there are to be no tariffs and closure of ports to our comrades mercantile fleets, as that would harm trade.

Article 5-Economic Aid

If a comrade comes to be encountering economic difficulties their comrades will do their up most to help the failing economy.

Article 6-Voting

All comrades are able to vote on any proposition put forward, as we are all equal.

Article 7-New Members

Any new members will put through a rigorous test to see if they are communist or just capitalists trying to work their way in through lies and deceit. A 66% Majority is also required.

Article 8-Governmental change

In the case that one of our comrades moves away from the communist ideal, be it elections, a coup d'état or any other such reason, his membership will temporarily be put on hold, until the others decide on a course of action.

Article 9-Supremacy Clause

The ComIntern takes precedence over any other treaty, regardless of why and when the other treaty was made.

Article 10-Complete Withdrawal

If a comrade decides to abandon their fellow comrades a 72hr notice and a sufficient reason is to be given.

First amendment

A.) Members of ComIntern hereby agree to conduct themselves with civility, maturity and diplomacy in all communications. We, the ComIntern, will act reasonably with all international responses, as well as treat all nations with respect in order to establish a level of maturity within our ranks.

B.) We, the ComIntern will use our Optional Aggression clause with limits in order to create a better and peaceful world, stating that the attacker must have a legit CB for the war to be just.

The qualities of a just CB are outlined here:

"legitimate defense by military force"

- The reason for going to war needs to be just and cannot therefore be solely for recapturing things taken (excluding unlawful land gains and the like) or punishing people who have done wrong (unless it is in mass-murderous or genocidal proportions or such things)

- While there may be rights and wrongs on all sides of a conflict, to override the presumption against the use of force, the injustice suffered by one party must significantly outweigh that suffered by the other

- Force may be used only in a truly just cause and solely for that purpose—correcting a suffered wrong is considered a right intention, while material gain or maintaining economies is not.

- Force may be used only after all peaceful and viable alternatives have been seriously tried and exhausted or are clearly not practical. It may be clear that the other side is using negotiations as a delaying tactic and will not make meaningful concessions.

- The anticipated benefits of waging a war must be proportionate to its expected evils or harms. This principle is also known as the principle of macro-proportionality, so as to distinguish it from the jus in bello principle of proportionality.

- The weapons used in war must discriminate between combatants and non-combatants. Civilians are never permissible targets of war, and every effort must be taken to avoid killing civilians. The deaths of civilians are justified only if they are unavoidable victims of a deliberate attack on a military target.

- The ultimate goal of a just war is to re-establish peace. More specifically, the peace established after the war must be preferable to the peace that would have prevailed if the war had not been fought.

Signed for Canada:

Fjodor Leclerc, Chairman

Signed for The New Northern Empire:

Leaders of The Northern Socialist Party:

Gage Musou, Chairman

Fredrik Trolic, Head Council Member

Kristine Nomma, Leader of the National Assembly

Signed for Osea:

Council of Osea

Keira Knigthely

Jordana Brewster

Lizzie Maguire

Deputy Council of Osea

Selena Gomez

Demi Lovato

Christian Bale

Signed for the Astrakhan World Services:

President Nikita Akhatova, Head of State

Secretary General Joseph Stalin, Chairman of the Workers Union

Signed for the Yuktobanian Democratic Republic:

Imran Zakhev, Prime Minister

Victor Zakhev, Deputy Prime Minister

Signed for Cainette:

Dr Peta Hinley, Cainette Minister of Foreign Affairs.

Signed for Alvonia:

Markus Wilding

Signed For the Socialist Republic Of Colstream:

Mary Williams, President

Signed for the People's Republic of Xizang:

Zheng Jintao, Chairman

Wu Jinai, Premier

Signed for the Republic of New England:

John Fitzgerald Kennedy, President

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Signed for the Vaule Socialist Republic:

Yuri Rokossovsky, Transitional President

Georgi Zhuganov, Chairman of the Executive Council

Director Zelin, SWoRD Director

Signed for the Azerbaijani Republic:

Ilham Heydar oglu Aliyev, President - (Observer)

For the Dragonisian People's Francoist Socialist Meritocracy:

Maelstrom Vortex, Chairman

For Annihilation:

Madame Unicorn, Supreme Leader

For the Northeast People's Republic,

******** Chekov, Prime Minister

Wen Jiabao, Premier

The Seal of the Northeast People's Republic,

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For the Socialist Republic of Atlantis:

Vallos, President

Calypsia, Vice-President

Signed for the Soviet Socialist Federation of Eritrea:

Mengistu Haile Mariam II, Secretary General

Carlos Johnston, non-jewish representative of the kibbutzin, Secretary of the Non-Ethnical Soviets

Rabbi David ben Zimra II, representative of the kibbutzim, Secretary of the jewish Soviets

Ras Mikael Sehul III, Secretary of the Tigrinyan Soviets

Tedros Gerub, Secretary of the Tigre Soviets

Ismael Ali Siro, Secretary of the afar Soviets

Niaz Murtaza, Secretary of the bilen Soviets

To-bedawir Hashish, Secretary of the hedareb Soviets

Zoba Debub, Secretary of the kunama Soviets

Daniel Santora, Secretary of the Nara Soviets

Sayad Alzenemat, Secretary of the Rashaida Soviets

Rafah Sabbarioh, Secretary of the Saho Soviets

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*Message to Colstream*

We would ask Colstream to refrain from applyinguntil after the Eurasian war is over, as there is a possibility that the ComIntern will intervene.

Unless you wish to help the Slavorussian cause.

*End of*

1. ComIntern headquarters:

Ferinh - In Canada - 1 Vote

Molotov - In Bosporan

Monte Cassino - In Alvonia

Province 1 - In Beijing Corp.

Please vote now, unless you wish to propose another city. You can also say your point why the city you are voting for should be the HQ to try and convince others to vote for your city.

2. Joining RUSSIAN in the defensive war against the Nords

Yes - 4

No - 0

Not yet voted: 3 - Yet to vote: NNE, Yuktobania, Cainette.

Canada voted yes, by the way.

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*Message to Colstream*

We would ask Colstream to refrain from applyinguntil after the Eurasian war is over, as there is a possibility that the ComIntern will intervene.

Unless you wish to help the Slavorussian cause.

*End of*

*Message to Canada*

We would like to help Slavorussia, but we have a small problem. We have outdated T-72 MBTs and BMP-1 IFVs into battle, we fear we would lose many to overwhelming firepower. We would like your opinion on this matter please.

*End Of Message*

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Well, we have a separate treaty with Bosporan and will be citing the Optional Aggression of this agreement to enter the war in defense of SlavoRussia. This is our notice because we cannot sit back and watch our allies be killed by such imperialistic scum.

-CEO Keshav.

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*Message to Canada*

We would like to help Slavorussia, but we have a small problem. We have outdated T-72 MBTs and BMP-1 IFVs into battle, we fear we would lose many to overwhelming firepower. We would like your opinion on this matter please.

*End Of Message*

*Message to Colstream*

Your forces could be used to combat partisans that take up arms after the main armies have continued.

This way, you would not directly face the enemy forces.

*End of*

Well, we have a separate treaty with Bosporan and will be citing the Optional Aggression of this agreement to enter the war in defense of SlavoRussia. This is our notice because we cannot sit back and watch our allies be killed by such imperialistic scum.

-CEO Keshav.

Completely understandable.

We wish you luck against the Nords.

OOC: Forgot to mention, in the HQ-vote, you can't vote for yourself. Thanks for reminding me, Reeki.

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The New United Soviet Republic (Novosoyuzskiy) would like to apply for Comintern membership. As an aspiring nuclear state, devout socialist nation, and proud supporters of the Russian people, we feel that we can carry our weight in this bloc.

It would be best, as with Colstream, for HCCP to wait for the Europe conflict to resolve.

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Once the other two votes are done, we will add the votes of Colstream's and the HCCP's application.

Should either or both be accepted, we will, as per article 8, send people to investigate your countries.

OOC: In short, I'd like both of you to send me somewhat detailed descriptions about your countries via PM.

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*Message to Colstream*

Your forces could be used to combat partisans that take up arms after the main armies have continued.

This way, you would not directly face the enemy forces.

*End of*

*Message to Canada*

We find that a good idea. We will deploy 500 Infantry, 50 T-72s and 20 BMP-1 IFVs to maintain order. We have done this sort of operation before so it will be familiar to some Military Veterans. We await the time to deploy.

*End Of Message*

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*Message to Canada*

We find that a good idea. We will deploy 500 Infantry, 50 T-72s and 20 BMP-1 IFVs to maintain order. We have done this sort of operation before so it will be familiar to some Military Veterans. We await the time to deploy.

*End Of Message*

*to Colstream*

We will notify you when the time has come. You can already send your troops to the Canary Islands, from where we will strike.

*End of*

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1. ComIntern headquarters:

Ferinh - In Canada - 1 Vote

Molotov - In Bosporan - 1 Vote

Monte Cassino - In Alvonia - 1 Vote

Province 1 - In Beijing Corp.

Please vote now, unless you wish to propose another city. You can also say your point why the city you are voting for should be the HQ to try and convince others to vote for your city.

2. Joining RUSSIAN in the defensive war against the Nords

Yes - 5

No - 0

Not yet voted: 2 - Yet to vote: NNE, Cainette.

This is the current status. Regarding the second vote, we already have a 66% majority. It is highly likely that the NNE and Cainette will vote "Yes", too, as they are very supportive of Slavorussia.

Thus, it is decided.

Also, Canada voted for Molotov in Bosporan.

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ComIntern headquarters:

Ferinh - In Canada - 2 Votes

Molotov - In Bosporan - 1 Vote

Monte Cassino - In Alvonia - 1 Vote

Province 1 - In Beijing Corp.

Please vote now, unless you wish to propose another city. You can also say your point why the city you are voting for should be the HQ to try and convince others to vote for your city.

Yet to vote: NNE, Cainette, Beijing Corp.

Joining RUSSIAN in the defensive war against the Nords

Yes - 5

No - 0

Not yet voted: 2 - Yet to vote: NNE, Cainette.

We have joined the war. This vote is over.

Now, let us vote on Colstream and the HCCP.

Colsteam

Yes - 1 vote(s)

No - 0 vote(s)

To vote: NNE, Bosporan, Beijing Corp, Yuktobania, Alvonia, Cainette

HCCP

Yes - 1 vote(s)

No - 0 vote(s)

To vote: NNE, Bosporan, Beijing Corp, Yuktobania, Alvonia, Cainette

Canada votes yes to both.

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