ComIntern discussions

[Arkantos]

OOC: I believe for a space program sending humans you actually need the wonder...

OOC: I said nothing about humans.

[Imperator Azenquor]

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Secondly, the Nordic Confederacy has not yet undertaken any efforts to promote their independent cultures, as per the Brisbane Treaty.

As such, I believe that it is time to warn the NC. Should they not promote the cultures within the next months (OOC: IRL ~1 week?), then we will impose sanctions or totally blockade trade-traffic from and to their countries.

Please vote if you agree or disagree with this course of action.

Yes - 1 vote(s)

No - 0 vote(s)

Undecided - 0 vote(s)

To vote: Osea, Yuktobania, Cainette, Alvonia, Xizang, New England, Vaule, Dragonisia, Annihilation, Manchukuo, Atlantis

Vaule votes Nay

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Thus, we wish to ask which of the ComIntern nations would like to contribute to the Canadian space program, sending not only money, but also some resources and pilots - which can be trained to be astronauts - and whatever else the individual nation deems useful enough to be sent.

In the scenario that all ComIntern nations contribute, the Moonbase-project could be finished far quicker than it would normally, giving us another edge in what could be called a "Space Race".

A Note to Dragonisia: Should you decide to contribute, then you are free to ask the Dragon Bloc if those nations want to help, as well.

While the majority of Vaule's resources are dedicated to our own satellite and space program, Vaule is willing to provide 10 pilots to be trained as astronauts as well as an initial monetary grant of V$ 21 million.

[Lynneth]

Imposing sanctions if the NC does not promote individual cultures

Yes - 4 vote(s)

No - 1 vote(s)

Undecided - 0 vote(s)

To vote: Yuktobania, Cainette, Xizang, New England, Dragonisia, Annihilation, Manchukuo

Once everyone has voted, the course of action will be decided. In this case, everyone will need to vote.

Aiding Canada's space program

Canada - Yes (Obviously, as it is our program)

Osea - Yes (2 billion, 20 pilots)

Yuktobania - TBA

Cainette - TBA

Alvonia - Yes (Several million + Aluminium)

Xizang - TBA

New England - TBA

Vaule - Yes (Initially 21 million and 10 pilots)

Dragonisia - TBA

Annihilation - TBA

Manchukuo - TBA

Atlantis - No (Not enough funds for their own program and[/] and a foreign one)

Similarly here. We ask that you do not yet send any aid until every nation has announced whether or not they wish to aid.

Edited May 11, 2009 by Lynneth

[JEDCJT]

Secondly, the Nordic Confederacy has not yet undertaken any efforts to promote their independent cultures, as per the Brisbane Treaty.

As such, I believe that it is time to warn the NC. Should they not promote the cultures within the next months (OOC: IRL ~1 week?), then we will impose sanctions or totally blockade trade-traffic from and to their countries.

Please vote if you agree or disagree with this course of action.

Yes - 1 vote(s)

No - 0 vote(s)

Undecided - 0 vote(s)

To vote: Osea, Yuktobania, Cainette, Alvonia, Xizang, New England, Vaule, Dragonisia, Annihilation, Manchukuo, Atlantis

New England votes Yea on this.

Now, to the third point: It has come to our attention that the NC has announced a Space Program. Currently, they are far behind the Canadian program, as we already are in the process of building a base on the moon. The only possible advantage that they currently have would be funding, with five to ten different nations contributing.

Thus, we wish to ask which of the ComIntern nations would like to contribute to the Canadian space program, sending not only money, but also some resources and pilots - which can be trained to be astronauts - and whatever else the individual nation deems useful enough to be sent.

In the scenario that all ComIntern nations contribute, the Moonbase-project could be finished far quicker than it would normally, giving us another edge in what could be called a "Space Race".

A Note to Dragonisia: Should you decide to contribute, then you are free to ask the Dragon Bloc if those nations want to help, as well.

This will be a slightly different vote than usually. Only those nations who indeed want to help will need to send aid.

Canada - Yes (Obviously, as it is our program)

Osea - To Be Announced

Yuktobania - TBA

Cainette - TBA

Alvonia - TBA

Xizang - TBA

New England - TBA

Vaule - TBA

Dragonisia - TBA

Annihilation - TBA

Manchukuo - TBA

Atlantis - TBA

We vote Yea on this, and will send $5 billion and 25 pilots over to Canada to participate in their space program.

Edited May 11, 2009 by JEDCJT

[Stefano Palmieri]

1)Yes

2) $2.5 Billion will be sent along with 10 pilots to Canada to contribute to the program.

[comrade nikonov]

Yes to imposing sanctions on NC.

As for Canada's space program, we can assist with unmanned Progress spacecraft, which we had previously developed when hopes were high and funding was plenty for a few manned space missions.

[Maelstrom Vortex]

In the scenario that all ComIntern nations contribute, the Moonbase-project could be finished far quicker than it would normally, giving us another edge in what could be called a "Space Race".

A Note to Dragonisia: Should you decide to contribute, then you are free to ask the Dragon Bloc if those nations want to help, as well.

This will be a slightly different vote than usually. Only those nations who indeed want to help will need to send aid.

Canada - Yes (Obviously, as it is our program)

Osea - To Be Announced

Yuktobania - TBA

Cainette - TBA

Alvonia - TBA

Xizang - TBA

New England - TBA

Vaule - TBA

Dragonisia - TBA

Annihilation - TBA

Manchukuo - TBA

Atlantis - TBA

Yes, I like the concept of joint space operations and I appreciate you welcoming my bloc members into participation, I'll relay the word. We will be helping and we'll contribute 100 billion from our Radiological Emergency Response reserves to the task.

[Razgriz 2K9]

We will impose sanction on the NC.

As for Canada's space program, we're willing to donate $60M dollars to the program, as the start of a future $600M donation. Whether we send pilots will depend on the situation.

[Abhull Alhazred]

Dear comrades,

The Democratic Dagonists of Rlyah would like to join the Comintern. The DDR is a socialist nation which upholds the beliefs of Marxism-Dagonism

(OOC: I know this is Fantasy RP, is the treaty as posted at the OP for real?)

Edited May 13, 2009 by Abhull Alhazred

[Centurius]

Dear comrades,

The Democratic Dagonists of Rlyah would like to join the Comintern. The DDR is a socialist nation which upholds the beliefs of Marxism-Dagonism

(OOC: I know this is Fantasy RP, is the treaty as posted at the OP for real?)

OOC: It does not carry over to the game no but it is for real in RP

[Lynneth]

Imposing sanctions if the NC does not promote individual cultures

Yes - 8 vote(s)

No - 1 vote(s)

Undecided - 0 vote(s)

To vote: Xizang, Dragonisia, Annihilation

Aiding Canada's space program

Canada - Yes (Obviously, as it is our program)

Osea - Yes ($2 billion, 20 pilots)

Yuktobania - Yes ($60 mil initially, up to $600 mil in total)

Cainette - Yes ($2.5 Billion, 10 pilots)

Alvonia - Yes (Several million + Aluminium)

Xizang - TBA

New England - Yes ($5 billion and 25 pilots)

Vaule - Yes (Initially $21 million and 10 pilots)

Dragonisia - Yes (Up to $100 billion)

Annihilation - TBA

Manchukuo - Yes (Unmanned progress spacecraft)

Atlantis - No (Not enough funds for their own program and and a foreign one)

Dear comrades,

The Democratic Dagonists of Rlyah would like to join the Comintern. The DDR is a socialist nation which upholds the beliefs of Marxism-Dagonism

(OOC: I know this is Fantasy RP, is the treaty as posted at the OP for real?)

OOC: As Cent said, it's for the RP. This treaty has no effect in CN itself, only in what is commonly known as CNRP.

Otherwise I'd have posted it in the politics forum or something.

Edited May 13, 2009 by Lynneth

[Ranather]

OOC: As soon as a certain someone approves a certain request, I'll maybe be posting an application, stay tuned.

[Subtleknifewielder]

OOC: As soon as a certain someone approves a certain request, I'll maybe be posting an application, stay tuned.

OOC: Would that request have anything to do with me?

[Ranather]

OOC: Would that request have anything to do with me?

OOC: hehe

Edited May 13, 2009 by Ranather

[Imperator Azenquor]

“Vaule once again reminds our fellow members of the ComIntern that we feel that the 4th clause of the Brisbane treaty is against our core beliefs. As we stated previously, we find it appalling that the ComIntern would attempt to force another sovereign nation to modify its ideology regarding its demographics in an attempt to promote diversity. Although we are not of the same political persuasion as the Nordlandic nations, we still voice our extreme objection to this treaty clause. As always, the ComIntern shall do what the majority of its members dictate, however we see this as being a dangerous precedent. With that in mind, Vaule will need to seriously consider if we will deploy our Naval assets to assist in this blockade, if it is approved, given our vehement opposition to the clause in question.”-Vaule Rep

[Sir Keshav IV]

"Maybe the GNR may attack Vaule and wipe out its enter society just for the nords and you would accept hundreds of years of culture gone within 2 months? No sir, the haven't promoted cultural diversity, they promote only Nordic peoples, the rest could be suffering for all we know. "

[Maelstrom Vortex]

Abstain to advocating independent cultures in NC.

[Lynneth]

Imposing sanctions if the NC does not promote individual cultures

Yes - 8 vote(s)

No - 1 vote(s)

Undecided - 1 vote(s)

To vote: Xizang, Annihilation

Aiding Canada's space program

Canada - Yes (Obviously, as it is our program)

Osea - Yes ($2 billion, 20 pilots)

Yuktobania - Yes ($60 mil initially, up to $600 mil in total)

Cainette - Yes ($2.5 Billion, 10 pilots)

Alvonia - Yes (Several million + Aluminium)

Xizang - TBA

New England - Yes ($5 billion and 25 pilots)

Vaule - Yes (Initially $21 million and 10 pilots)

Dragonisia - Yes (Up to $100 billion)

Annihilation - TBA

Manchukuo - Yes (Unmanned progress spacecraft)

Atlantis - No (Not enough funds for their own program and and a foreign one)

“Vaule once again reminds our fellow members of the ComIntern that we feel that the 4th clause of the Brisbane treaty is against our core beliefs. As we stated previously, we find it appalling that the ComIntern would attempt to force another sovereign nation to modify its ideology regarding its demographics in an attempt to promote diversity. Although we are not of the same political persuasion as the Nordlandic nations, we still voice our extreme objection to this treaty clause. As always, the ComIntern shall do what the majority of its members dictate, however we see this as being a dangerous precedent. With that in mind, Vaule will need to seriously consider if we will deploy our Naval assets to assist in this blockade, if it is approved, given our vehement opposition to the clause in question.”-Vaule Rep

You forget that the reason of the tensions between the ComIntern and the NC is precisely the fact that the Nordlandic nations are trying to eradicate the cultures of the countries they conquer, instead imposing their own, artificial culture, often against the will of the people living within the conquered territories.

They oppress the conquered people and let not a single bit of news come fom there, unless it's some insane propaganda. Canada considers this a breach of human rights and all that is good and holy. Which is why we are trying to create cracks in the Nordlandic regime, using the cultures of the peoples they oppress.

Regarding your naval assets, is it not necessary to deploy them if you voted against this.

[Lynneth]

Imposing sanctions if the NC does not promote individual cultures

Yes - 8 vote(s)

No - 1 vote(s)

Undecided - 1 vote(s)

To vote: Xizang, Annihilation

With Xizang having left the world stage, this vote is basically decided.

A message shall be delivered to the ComIntern shortly.

Aiding Canada's space program

Canada - Yes (Obviously, as it is our program)

Osea - Yes ($2 billion, 20 pilots)

Yuktobania - Yes ($60 mil initially, up to $600 mil in total)

Cainette - Yes ($2.5 Billion, 10 pilots)

Alvonia - Yes (Several million + Aluminium)

Xizang - TBA

New England - Yes ($5 billion and 25 pilots)

Vaule - Yes (Initially $21 million and 10 pilots)

Dragonisia - Yes (Up to $100 billion)

Annihilation - TBA

Manchukuo - Yes (Unmanned progress spacecraft)

Atlantis - No (Not enough funds for their own program and and a foreign one)

Merely Annihilation needs to announce their contributions, and thus the others may now send whatever they have pledged to send.

Additionally, we encourage those who are capable of doing so to create their own space programs, which will then cooperate with the Canadian program, if they decide to do so.

OOC: Buy a Space Program if you can? lol.

[Sir Keshav IV]

" The Pilots and the money has been sent. "

OOC: I think Ill buy it in 2 months time

[Markus Wilding]

"The money has been transferred and the aluminum is being shipped."

[Madame Unicorn]

Yes to Imposing sanctions on NC

We are sorry to say that we cannot fund your space program, for we do not have the money or tech resources.

[Razgriz 2K9]

We have already sent in $60M,and we are currently sending another $540M within the next couple of days.

Edited May 16, 2009 by Razgriz 2K9

[Lynneth]

Thanks to those who can aid our space program.

We are sorry to say that we cannot fund your space program, for we do not have the money or tech resources.

Not a problem, not at all.

Also, with Nordland finally beginning to promote individual cultures, we do not need to carry out the vote.

However, the reports that the people are mostly against their old cultures, even going as far as burning old flags are very likely just propaganda. A language may be replaced within a few decades, but cultures take a century, if not more. People are stubborn like that.

[Sir Keshav IV]

Comintern members,

Our Ally has asked for some lands from our protectorate region, Hebei,Beijing and Tianjin, they will give back Hubei and Anhui to Comintern control. We are all for this, but what do others think?